Jett's scuff with Cooper Webb reveals his weakness,...

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You start bangin' bars with donut boy and he backs off,.....I just don't think he can win through a tough crowd like, Webb, Tomac, Andersen,...Rokzen, if they throw it down.

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3/27/2024 5:10pm

I don't agree - yet.

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3/27/2024 5:11pm

I think he can adapt just fine if that’s what it comes to.  Tomac and Kenny are not contact riders though.  Eli will give it back if pushed, but Kenny will hurt himself if he try’s to ride rough (Ken vs Paul Cooper resulted in him almost loosing the other arm).

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Well, if that's his only weakness, he's fine. He is a 450 SX rookie. Coop's, and everybody else's weakness is they have little to no chance of beating him on speed.

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3/27/2024 5:16pm

Regardless of what Jett said on the podium, I think that was an accident. He completely misjudged that and thought he was going to slide in front of Webb there, realized he couldn’t, grabbed brakes and went down. I don’t think he was going in with the intent of ramming Webb’s swingarm. 

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3/27/2024 5:34pm Edited Date/Time 3/27/2024 5:34pm

Webb made contact with him a couple rounds ago. Webb went down and Jett kept charging forward. Didnt phase him in the slightest. 

 

Nearly identical scenario with roles reversed. Only time I think Jett worried about banging bars was when he bumped Anderson in the heat race and backed off for a lap or two. Because he knew Anderson wouldn’t accept that as an accident and more like an act of war.

 

He then passed Anderson and Stewart in one corner and went on to win the heat comfortably. Honestly looked like he was going to settle for third in that heat at one point. Pretty sure he makes a decision to settle early in some races. Then overrules that decision when he gets a sniff of a win. He cant help himself. 

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AP, the cowboy, ain't afraid to wrestle....surprised he ain't mixed it up with hollywood yet,..

 

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3/27/2024 5:42pm
PRM31 wrote:
Well, if that's his only weakness, he's fine. He is a 450 SX rookie. Coop's, and everybody else's weakness is they have little to no chance...

Well, if that's his only weakness, he's fine. He is a 450 SX rookie. Coop's, and everybody else's weakness is they have little to no chance of beating him on speed.

Their other weakness is they are retiring soon.

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3/27/2024 5:42pm
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Webb made contact with him a couple rounds ago. Webb went down and Jett kept charging forward. Didnt phase him in the slightest.    Nearly identical...

Webb made contact with him a couple rounds ago. Webb went down and Jett kept charging forward. Didnt phase him in the slightest. 

 

Nearly identical scenario with roles reversed. Only time I think Jett worried about banging bars was when he bumped Anderson in the heat race and backed off for a lap or two. Because he knew Anderson wouldn’t accept that as an accident and more like an act of war.

 

He then passed Anderson and Stewart in one corner and went on to win the heat comfortably. Honestly looked like he was going to settle for third in that heat at one point. Pretty sure he makes a decision to settle early in some races. Then overrules that decision when he gets a sniff of a win. He cant help himself. 

Settling for 2nd or 3rd in a heat is a sign of maturity. 
 

I remember that previous Webb/Jett interaction. I think that was an error by Webb.  Maybe I’m wrong? Maybe both of them just wanted to crash. 

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3/27/2024 6:06pm

Looked like what Ricky said at the time: Lack of patience. (Experience? Maturity?)
 

He had the speed, and laps left to wait for a safer opportunity. 

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3/27/2024 6:10pm

um… the only weakness i have identified is a he sorta doesn’t like riding in wet conditions and i can’t blame him i don’t either 😂. Did you see the ruts toward the end of the race they were insane and everyone had to go to survival mode. 

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mxlegend99 wrote:
Webb made contact with him a couple rounds ago. Webb went down and Jett kept charging forward. Didnt phase him in the slightest.    Nearly identical...

Webb made contact with him a couple rounds ago. Webb went down and Jett kept charging forward. Didnt phase him in the slightest. 

 

Nearly identical scenario with roles reversed. Only time I think Jett worried about banging bars was when he bumped Anderson in the heat race and backed off for a lap or two. Because he knew Anderson wouldn’t accept that as an accident and more like an act of war.

 

He then passed Anderson and Stewart in one corner and went on to win the heat comfortably. Honestly looked like he was going to settle for third in that heat at one point. Pretty sure he makes a decision to settle early in some races. Then overrules that decision when he gets a sniff of a win. He cant help himself. 

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Settling for 2nd or 3rd in a heat is a sign of maturity.    I remember that previous Webb/Jett interaction. I think that was an error...

Settling for 2nd or 3rd in a heat is a sign of maturity. 
 

I remember that previous Webb/Jett interaction. I think that was an error by Webb.  Maybe I’m wrong? Maybe both of them just wanted to crash. 

Webb over jumped. Like Jett I think they both miscalculated their pace and the others pace to have similar incidents and outcomes.

I think both riders also played nice in the sennse they tried to minimise contact at the last minute, rather than going all Barcia / Friese and just trying to use the other as a berm.

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I am just waiting for Anderson to pay him back...

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cool_hand wrote:
You start bangin' bars with donut boy and he backs off,.....I just don't think he can win through a tough crowd like, Webb, Tomac, Andersen,...Rokzen, if...

You start bangin' bars with donut boy and he backs off,.....I just don't think he can win through a tough crowd like, Webb, Tomac, Andersen,...Rokzen, if they throw it down.

Perfect MX season in 2023, leading the SX season in 2024 by 16 points, Yeah! I think you nailed it, He's a Pussy. Blink

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MxAddic wrote:

I am just waiting for Anderson to pay him back...

Unlikely, he's still on super secret, double probation.

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3/27/2024 7:28pm
MxAddic wrote:

I am just waiting for Anderson to pay him back...

Me too honestly. At this point my hope of that happening is less than eli will get a win.

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3/27/2024 7:44pm

DV nailed it on the Pulp show a couple of weeks ago. Jett races forward, he doesn't need or care to "bang bars". 

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WarrenMX wrote:

DV nailed it on the Pulp show a couple of weeks ago. Jett races forward, he doesn't need or care to "bang bars". 

Unless it's meaningful enough. A heat with critical starting position motivates. A champ goes as hard as he can at most times, unless the win can be smelled.

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3/27/2024 8:21pm
WarrenMX wrote:

DV nailed it on the Pulp show a couple of weeks ago. Jett races forward, he doesn't need or care to "bang bars". 

DV was absolutely right.  Only slow riders are blocking people or trying to take them out when they're being passed. 

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3/27/2024 9:25pm Edited Date/Time 3/27/2024 9:28pm
cool_hand wrote:
You start bangin' bars with donut boy and he backs off,.....I just don't think he can win through a tough crowd like, Webb, Tomac, Andersen,...Rokzen, if...

You start bangin' bars with donut boy and he backs off,.....I just don't think he can win through a tough crowd like, Webb, Tomac, Andersen,...Rokzen, if they throw it down.

You are so wrong. Jett was going for a block pass and arrived late, he did everything he could to not take Webb out. Im a Sexton and not much of a Jett fan but I will call it how I see it. Watch the video and you can see it. It’s called not earning a payback while you have the points lead.

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No one remembers him a few years ago, looking back watching Colt Nichols while that hard on the front brakes he was endo'ing into the first turn a few years ago? Dude loves the cat and mouse, just doesn't need to. 

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3/27/2024 11:02pm

You make it sound like Webb was giving Jett the business instead of the other way around. Who do you suppose was banging bars with “donut boy” that made him “back off”?  

If Jett has a weakness, it’s NOT that he backs off when he bangs bars (I remember him banging bars with his own flesh and blood, and not backing off!), but rather it’s that he hasn’t realized, he doesn’t need to bang bars. However; if last weekend’s lesson proved fruitful, he may not have anymore weaknesses. 

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When Coop does good, cool_hand comes out of hibernation. 

No comment on the 4000 Jet threads a week? 

Posting pics of a 20 year old dude and his chick's is fuckin weird.

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To me that was a good representation of the speed difference between the two on the night, that section in particular. Yes Jett should have checked up, been more patient. But he is just carrying so much more speed than the others. Like it or not. 

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Only one of the riders you listed races with sharp elbows and that’s Anderson. Him and Jett did have a dust up earlier this season but most races JA isn’t even close enough to him to do much of anything. Regarding the other three riders you listed. They’re all in the back end of their careers and never have rode straight up dirty but now they need to change their ways and go full bam bam with the new kid to beat him? Yeah that’ll go well. 

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3/28/2024 3:11am

Speak for yourself mo fucka’

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3/28/2024 5:40am Edited Date/Time 3/28/2024 5:44am
Herr Lich wrote:

DV was absolutely right.  Only slow riders are blocking people or trying to take them out when they're being passed. 

He was sooo right Webb won the race...

BTW DV did a shitton of blocking when he was racing.

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3/28/2024 6:50am

That weakness is pretty effectively mitigated when Jett is 4 seconds ahead of second place.

I don't enjoy watching Jett get out front, but I don't see how you can deny that when he gets out front, it's over for everyone else.

And he does that a lot.

As far as championships go, the current body of evidence suggests that Jett's "bar banging weakness" is not going to prevent him from winning every championship he rides healthy through.

I hope I'm wrong.

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