For almost 20 years, I've been a loyal follower and fan of AMA Motocross and Supercross, religiously tuning in for every race, indoors and outdoors.
Being from the UK myself, I recently decided to give MXGP another chance and subscribed to MXGP TV after seeing the talent of top MXGP riders at Hawkstone International a few weeks ago,
Unfortunately, within just ten minutes of diving into my first MX2 moto, I started scrolling away on my phone, completely unengaged, questioning my hefty £140 investment.
Here's what struck me as where the MXGP TV broadcast lacks:
Commentary:
Unlike the dynamic back-and-forth we get with AMA's two-person booth, MXGP relies on a single commentator. Whilst Malin does a great job, a solo voice droning on for 40 minutes just can't hold my attention the same way. The banter & complementary analysis between AMA commentators creates a much more engaging listening experience.
Camera Work:
MXGP's camera angles and tracking felt all over the place. Instead of feeling like I'm part of the action, hurtling down the track with the riders, and getting a real feel for the track layout, the are constant quick cuts from seemingly random positions that offered little sense of the track layout or the riders' struggles. The AMA broadcasts excel an immersive experience, rider-following shots that pull you right into the thick of the competition. It's the difference between feeling like a spectator on the sidelines and being fully invested in the race.
Interested to know if other MXGP viewers feel the same?
I will likely not be watching the remainder of the series, which is crazy coming from an avid MX fan,
They can't even keep someone who's obsessed with the sport entertained; how do they expect to grow their viewership - The price is eye-watering too (I may as well have thrown £140 on the fire)
If those MX2 motos couldn’t keep you engaged, then I don’t know what to tell you…
That's the frustration; I can see it is great racing by unbelievable riders, just broadcast terribly compared to AMA
I agree with pretty much all of this that’s why I’ll never give Luongo a dollar. I enjoy the races, I watch pretty much every moto, there are ways to watch it for free. CBS sports has 1st moto highlights and full 2nd motos(with commercials). To catch the qualifying races and the first motos just keep refreshing the search on YouTube right after they happen. Theres a couple rad people out there who upload every race, the YouTube mods take them down, but if you click it before it’s taken down(at least on Roku) you’re golden, but sometimes it will be in a different language, which doesn’t bother me at all I just turn the sound down.
these people also do the same for AMA, I have peacock so I don’t need it but it’s nice to know that the friendly pirates help out the international community as well. Argggg matey!!!
If AMA side could focus on the actual race instead of doing story telling about things you could learn at other occasions than during prime time racing, I would be happy.
MXGP manage to talk about the actual race for 35min, with one guy. Can it be that hard?
What are the lap times, who is catching up, what lines are they taking, bike setup.
In AMA we get 90% bullshit, "I had a conversation with the team manager about Elis week and how he is coming into this weekend", and 10% racing.
I'm MXGP, its 90% racing 10% bullshit.
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Well, as most often a single individual is never representative of the average, so just know you are wrong 😂
Personally I don’t agree with any of your opinions, except I truly enjoy MXGP more when Malin has a co-announcer (I think he and JT$ is gold), but the AMA announcing is so watered down to cater to new viewers (which is so stupid you can’t even believe it) that it’s borderline stupid.
Watching MXGP it’s liberating not having to have someone explain what a tear-off is, or what a rider’s girlfriend’s mother’s cat is named! 😂
Anyway, it’s just a matter of tast and opinion. 👌🏻
This has to be an early April Fools joke. The MXGP broadcast and Malin are in a league of their own. The AMA broadcast and their “banter” is nauseating. I wish I could mute their drivel and just hear the audio of the bikes. MXGP doesn’t cut into the racing to play an interview about what one of the current stars they’re promoting ate for breakfast. Will is the worst. Ricky’s butchering of the English language speaks to itself. Come on guys!!!
MXGP-TV isn't that bad I think, only miss the AMA's leaderboard.
It was a bit annoying last year during the outdoors, when they showed Jett watching his brother on a screen in almost every race. Not very interesting. Luckily they're in the same class this year 😛
MXGP all day long. Way more racing for your money especially when they have support races as well. Hate the pre recorded interviews the Outdoors have. Malin lives & breathes MX (not saying Weedge & Ricky don’t) and I believe that comes across in his commentary. Malin doesn’t have to tell me what a laminate is, if I didn’t, why would I subscribe to a sport I don’t know anything about it? No adverts that need to be plugged halfway through a race. I love both series because it’s MX but if I had to choose one over the other it would be MXGP.
No way you can be for real!!!! Their coverage is 110% better than our series and it’s not even close!!!
I think like someone mentioned it’s more about personal taste.
personally i like both. For me though mxgp Is great because if mxgp tv is down as it can be sometimes during the season there is always a tv Chanel to watch on Eurosport or Eurosport app for exemple.
i would love to see feld push for ama sx and Mx to be broadcasted on tv in Europe since it’s great for the sport and the fans I know you can just get the video pass but anyway it would be awesome.
infront is maybe the most hated sports organization in the world but they’ve been working hard to get motocross on more mainstream tv in all over the globe and they have to pay for example Eurosport to broadcast.
but anyway I’m happy we can enjoy our loved sport from both sides of the ocean as good as we can in todays world with streaming etc!
Everyone is entitled to an opinion.
The only point i will agree on, is that having 2 guys in the booth is better, because when he has JT$ in there , they work well.
But the rest, as has been said, if you didnt think those MX2 races were great, i dont know what it would take to impress you.
I get a bit frustrated when your watching it on the screen, and they are talking about something else, usually Jett talk, and Kenny, or another racer does something good, never a word. Its like they are doing color for another race.
So with both SX MX and MXGP, i find myself watching with no sound.
Mxgp FTW
“Ricky’s butchering of the English language speaks to itself”
That’s funny!! (Because it’s true.)
Education is important.
But racing is importanter.
My first year subscribing to MXGP TV. My biggest issue is the rider names displayed at the bottom of the TV screen, it's completely useless! This horizontal data ticking over 4 rider names and positions at a time makes it impossible to follow the race . MXGP should to change to a static, vertical data set ( the same as AMA ) so viewers can follow riders progress at their own pace.
That fucking thing takes up 1/4 of the screen.
MXGP scroll across the bottom is far less intrusive.
I'd rather watch the racing.
Spot on. That pylon, should not be taking up that much real estate on the screen.
I guess this is a matter of personal preference, but I haven´t watched many full races from the US the past 2-3 seasons, because they are catering to the lowest common denominator. It comes off as a Nickelodeon production. I want to see racing, and don´t care if a casual viewer doesn´t understand everything that is going on. If they are intrigued, they can surely understand what a tear off is, or root for a bike number for now. I´d love to see it change, but as it is, it´s just not for me anymore unfortunately. I´m in no way saying the MXGP production is faultless but as it is, it´s just better IMO
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I'll take more racing and real commmentary ABOUT THE FUCKING RACING than this dumbed down spam talking about dumb side stories, personal revelations, OHHHHHHS, and screeching nonsense while the actual racing is blocked by dumb banners and window in window bullshit, missing all the passing. Instead we get to see replays of passes. Fuckin dumb.
WOW are you ever in the minority AMA coverage doesn't hold a candle to MXGP, camera work, announcing, replays….EVERYTHING is head and shoulders above AMA coverage. Try again
Malin does a great job on his own. And he doesn’t try to sell insurance while he’s doing it.
But two commentators is always better. I don’t know why Infront don’t employ one. They can afford it.
Literally the only thing i dont like about MXGP broadcast is the rider tracker. If a top guy is coming through the pack its annoying having to take my eyes off the action to wait for his name to scroll by. There's enough screen to fit the 20 guys on at the same time. Showing 4 riders at a time for 3 seconds times how long it takes to get to the back.. im taking my eyes off the racing for 30 seconds or more to see where someone is. Especially when there's only 25- 30 in the class.
Everything else is night and day better than what we have here in the US
Yeah OP has his head up his ass haha
I really enjoy Malin, he's done great shows with JT as a second.
Jeez.
Ask Americans around here and even most of them will tell you you're wrong.
The MXGP coverage is for hard core MX racing, not oven-ready made for TV entertainment.
Hey Bondo, didn't know you had an account here.
Ricky's butchering of the English language speaks for itself.
not quite 1/4 of the screen PhilG but I get the point. Most all of us are watching TV with 16:9 aspect ration and MXGP TV is cutting off the already smaller aspect which is the height or 9. I don't really care where they put the leader board just let us see at least the top 20 positions. That way I understand who is advancing and who is dropping back plus enjoy watching the race as the same time.
But there is definitely things to work on in the GPs too.
The overall look of the visuals is outdated, something with the cameras is off because the colors seem to be very dull to me (Patagonia was bad in this regard, no contrast), the Lisa Leyland pre-recorded boring interviews that have been the same for 10 years are a choir at this point. Seriously do something new.
Overall the GP coverage is much better from a pure racing point of view, and i would always choose it ahead of the way things are done in AMA. But that doesn't mean there isn't anything to improve either.
I think MXGP-TV is a good product, it can be better for sure, it could do with updating, but it’s a good product.
We shouldn’t forget that in the US, as well as the SMX video pass, they also have one channel that shows every race across the whole continent. That comes with a fair amount of money and no doubt helps out with some of the production value and overall quality of the show. MXGP doesn’t really have that luxury. They have small deals with lots of broadcasters but I’d be very surprised if it comes close to the value of the SMX TV deal
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