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If you had an event which was composed of the following events
supercross @ Daytona
motocross @ red bud
endurocross
hard enduro @ romaniacs.
gncc
trials
baja 1000
who would perform the best. Are hard enduro riders better at Supercross than Supercross riders at hard enduro.
Probably Taddy B.
(All of those things except mx and sx are gay AF tho)
Switch Baja 1000 for Dakar Rally and we'll talk.
Carson Brown
Billy Bolt.
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Sipes? Pastrana in his prime?
Dick Mann. He was not just a flat tracker and road racer...a winner at the national/international level in MX, Trials, ISDT, too. Think Ryan Sipes but faster!
To learn more, here's 20 minutes on a memorial held by his club, the Richmond Ramblers. Kenny Roberts, Brad Lackey and others speak on Dick Mann.
Billy
Handsdown Stéphane Peterhansel. Numerous wins and titles in french enduro, world enduro, ISDE, prehistoric hard enduro (GLC), rallyes. All time Dakar winner -and went on winning in cars.
Also raced french MX and SX, Supermoto, italian and spanish Bajas, and the Andros Trophy on ice...
Billy Bolt by a mile.
If we're talking everyone in their prime of each discipline, I like the prospects of Peterhansel, Sipes, or Graham Jarvis. My money might be on Jarvis.
Billy Bolt now or Pastrana in his prime. also Ryan Sipes could do good in his prime.
Guy Cooper
Where is Big Bud?
Big Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuud!!!!!!
Ty Davis/ Rodney Smith
I don't think there's anything with 2 wheels that Steve Wise couldn't ride... and quickly.
Alot of modern era freaks of nature riding the modern era bikes, doing amazing things, BUT - IMO we have to go back to the early days.
Dick Mann was mentioned and deserves on the list, many others will be brought forward too. And as all of these threads pan out, we will realize that there have been a lot of real men involved in off road racing over the last 100 years, and to nail down the best isn't possible.
Yeah, Sipes is a good option too.
Jarvis is not fast enough in the open, so I guess it'd have depended on the track...
Mike Kiedrowski won motocross championships and WORCS championships. He also won SX races. In his prime, he would probably be a contender.
I know sometimes there are motocross riders who hate the idea of riding through rocks, but I have to believe that if there was a financial incentive that the top SX guys today could figure out the off-road stuff pretty quickly (if they aren't already comfortable in those conditions). They are the best dirt bike riders in the world.
Pit Row
I dunno that it's that simple.
Racing through rocks like at a WORCS race or Hare and Hound or GNCC....sure, they can figure that out as has been evidenced by tons of dudes over the years including Kiedrowski that you mentioned.
The stuff the hard enduro guys are doing these days is a lot more than "riding through rocks"....I think for someone with no trials background it'd be a HUGE learning curve.
Sipes is a ripper for sure.
Billy can haul on a motocross track and has the enduro and techy stuff dialled.
I swear we're missing someone (recent or current) but I can't think who 🤦
Came to say this.
Hat tip to Danilo Petrucci for winning MotoGP and a stage of the Dakar.
TP199
Oh, I forgot to mention in 95, "Peter" raced the GLC extreme on saturday, finishing 3rd at 11pm, jumped in a private plane and went on to Le Touquet beach race on sunday, finishing in the top 20, neither being his specialty...
He said on every lap he wanted to stop when he smelled chocolate pancakes that were sold by the beach...
No to mention he accomplished most of those wins on equipment he built and tuned himself. DM is a F'ing legend!
Peterhansel is a good call but I would also put JMB out there.
Double world champ, triple AMA champ, winner of 24h du Mans and Bol d'or, pole positions in MotoGP (GP500 but you get the picture).
I think he could manage anything on 2 wheels.
If we're talking current riders I think hard enduro riders could adapt to SX much faster than the other way.
Kenny Roberts. Dude could win on anything with 2 wheels.
The exact format will be relevant.
If it's a 7-race series, with the 7 events named above, with 21 guys who automatically qualify for all 7 rounds, and points paid in MX style (25,22,20,18,16, etc.). I say 21 guys because you could take the top 3 racers from each of the disciplines.
(I'm not sure Baja 1000 is a good event to include since the best riders are usually part of a team.)
I think most of the SX and MX guys are likely to finish top half of the SX, MX, Baja and WORCS races. Some of them might do well in endurocross. So they could struggle in Trials and Hard Enduro and still be in pretty good shape points-wise.
I know the title is off-road. But JMB deserves a shout too for his MX and road racing achievements
Mani lettenbichler???
he’s doing well in the endurocross and was champ in hard enduro, would likely woop billy in trials too. That’s a solid 2-3 out of 7
Doug Henry, guy could ride anything and win, and he has, MX, SX, GNCC, Hare scramble, snowmoble, and even special events.
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