Help me understand the Jett hate.

Sully wrote:

I'm not a hater of the kid by any means, but the over saturation is a bit much - and that's all on Feld. I can't...

I'm not a hater of the kid by any means, but the over saturation is a bit much - and that's all on Feld. I can't recall a time in the sport's televised history where the broadcast went PiP during a race to show a rider either getting suited up, or picking their gate.

The real Sasquatch wrote:

When they were showing Jett pick his gate, did you notice that Jason anderson was right beside him? Everytime they showed Jett picking his gate Jason...

When they were showing Jett pick his gate, did you notice that Jason anderson was right beside him? Everytime they showed Jett picking his gate Jason was also right there.

It was the first time they were on camera together after the blow up . Can You remember a time were something like the exchange that they had blew up? I don't remember many relatively small misteps like that , that blew up like it did. They wanted to be there just in case something happened and show it live. With the crazy amount of interest in the incident , I think they did the right thing.   Just imagine if they started talking and things got heated again. But they totally missed it. People would be going nuts asking how could they not have had cameras on them. 

 

Now knowing nothing happened, it is easy to say they could have just recorded it and shown a playback or not at all. But put yourself in the place of the producers. They were trying to make sure they got the action.   

Sully wrote:

I'm not a hater of the kid by any means, but the over saturation is a bit much - and that's all on Feld. I can't...

I'm not a hater of the kid by any means, but the over saturation is a bit much - and that's all on Feld. I can't recall a time in the sport's televised history where the broadcast went PiP during a race to show a rider either getting suited up, or picking their gate.

The real Sasquatch wrote:

When they were showing Jett pick his gate, did you notice that Jason anderson was right beside him? Everytime they showed Jett picking his gate Jason...

When they were showing Jett pick his gate, did you notice that Jason anderson was right beside him? Everytime they showed Jett picking his gate Jason was also right there.

It was the first time they were on camera together after the blow up . Can You remember a time were something like the exchange that they had blew up? I don't remember many relatively small misteps like that , that blew up like it did. They wanted to be there just in case something happened and show it live. With the crazy amount of interest in the incident , I think they did the right thing.   Just imagine if they started talking and things got heated again. But they totally missed it. People would be going nuts asking how could they not have had cameras on them. 

 

Now knowing nothing happened, it is easy to say they could have just recorded it and shown a playback or not at all. But put yourself in the place of the producers. They were trying to make sure they got the action.   

CPR wrote:

I noticed this too, but most of these guys are blinded by their bias and only see the camera on Jett again.  They managed to capture...

I noticed this too, but most of these guys are blinded by their bias and only see the camera on Jett again. 

They managed to capture Jett approaching the gate with Ando already there, and had the two together for the first time we’ve seen since the ‘incident’. Nothing eventuated, but it was still an interesting moment after their meltdown.

Many crosses to Jett are not warranted, but that moment certainly was imo.

The real Sasquatch wrote:

When they were showing Jett pick his gate, did you notice that Jason anderson was right beside him? Everytime they showed Jett picking his gate Jason...

When they were showing Jett pick his gate, did you notice that Jason anderson was right beside him? Everytime they showed Jett picking his gate Jason was also right there.

It was the first time they were on camera together after the blow up . Can You remember a time were something like the exchange that they had blew up? I don't remember many relatively small misteps like that , that blew up like it did. They wanted to be there just in case something happened and show it live. With the crazy amount of interest in the incident , I think they did the right thing.   Just imagine if they started talking and things got heated again. But they totally missed it. People would be going nuts asking how could they not have had cameras on them. 

 

Now knowing nothing happened, it is easy to say they could have just recorded it and shown a playback or not at all. But put yourself in the place of the producers. They were trying to make sure they got the action.   

CPR wrote:

I noticed this too, but most of these guys are blinded by their bias and only see the camera on Jett again.  They managed to capture...

I noticed this too, but most of these guys are blinded by their bias and only see the camera on Jett again. 

They managed to capture Jett approaching the gate with Ando already there, and had the two together for the first time we’ve seen since the ‘incident’. Nothing eventuated, but it was still an interesting moment after their meltdown.

Many crosses to Jett are not warranted, but that moment certainly was imo.

Sully wrote:

The possibility of catching fireworks last week makes sense, but it doesn't account for cutting to Jett at the truck getting geared up during every moto...

The possibility of catching fireworks last week makes sense, but it doesn't account for cutting to Jett at the truck getting geared up during every moto outdoors last year, or cutting to a full screen of his reaction to Hunter being taken out at A1. In all the time I've been watching this sport, I can't recall ever seeing anything like that before.

And before the "Americans don't like foreigners" crowd chimes in, I'm a big fan of Hunter. I can't wait until he puts it all together and gets up front where he belongs.

CPR wrote:

I noticed this too, but most of these guys are blinded by their bias and only see the camera on Jett again.  They managed to capture...

I noticed this too, but most of these guys are blinded by their bias and only see the camera on Jett again. 

They managed to capture Jett approaching the gate with Ando already there, and had the two together for the first time we’ve seen since the ‘incident’. Nothing eventuated, but it was still an interesting moment after their meltdown.

Many crosses to Jett are not warranted, but that moment certainly was imo.

Sully wrote:

The possibility of catching fireworks last week makes sense, but it doesn't account for cutting to Jett at the truck getting geared up during every moto...

The possibility of catching fireworks last week makes sense, but it doesn't account for cutting to Jett at the truck getting geared up during every moto outdoors last year, or cutting to a full screen of his reaction to Hunter being taken out at A1. In all the time I've been watching this sport, I can't recall ever seeing anything like that before.

And before the "Americans don't like foreigners" crowd chimes in, I'm a big fan of Hunter. I can't wait until he puts it all together and gets up front where he belongs.

jjavaman wrote:

How many times have there brother's been at team Honda?  

CPR wrote:

I noticed this too, but most of these guys are blinded by their bias and only see the camera on Jett again.  They managed to capture...

I noticed this too, but most of these guys are blinded by their bias and only see the camera on Jett again. 

They managed to capture Jett approaching the gate with Ando already there, and had the two together for the first time we’ve seen since the ‘incident’. Nothing eventuated, but it was still an interesting moment after their meltdown.

Many crosses to Jett are not warranted, but that moment certainly was imo.

Sully wrote:

The possibility of catching fireworks last week makes sense, but it doesn't account for cutting to Jett at the truck getting geared up during every moto...

The possibility of catching fireworks last week makes sense, but it doesn't account for cutting to Jett at the truck getting geared up during every moto outdoors last year, or cutting to a full screen of his reaction to Hunter being taken out at A1. In all the time I've been watching this sport, I can't recall ever seeing anything like that before.

And before the "Americans don't like foreigners" crowd chimes in, I'm a big fan of Hunter. I can't wait until he puts it all together and gets up front where he belongs.

jjavaman wrote:

How many times have there brother's been at team Honda?  

Johnny Ringo wrote:

It’s weird how emotional Aussies are getting over their messiah getting some heat. Normally you guys are chill like the rockies. What happened? It’s dirtbike racing...

It’s weird how emotional Aussies are getting over their messiah getting some heat. Normally you guys are chill like the rockies. What happened? It’s dirtbike racing, not cancer. It’s not that serious. 

DonM wrote:

To the point that the go to reason is "American's hate foreigners that win" narrative, to me I don't care where he comes from but only...

To the point that the go to reason is "American's hate foreigners that win" narrative, to me I don't care where he comes from but only in how he handles his success and failures in the public eye. Hate is such an over used word that is used in the place of tired of...we are tired of the over exposure that for the majority was intentional and brought on by his management. We are tired of his super fans that were making insane claims so early in his career path. We are tired of some of the dumb shit he says and does, the KR incident, the MC comparison, the JA incident and the way he and his team handled (or didn't handle) it, his response regarding the mud race and how he disrespected his competitors with that comment...hopefully he is able to learn from this and correct the path he is on.  

Magoofan wrote:

Bingo ^^^^   Enough of this shit   

Bingo ^^^^

 

Enough of this shit 

 

Magoofan wrote:

Bingo ^^^^   Enough of this shit   

Bingo ^^^^

 

Enough of this shit 

 

HonDawg17 wrote:

I had written down a list of all the times they unnecessarily cut away to show a non-important clip of Jett @ A2... I barely got...

I had written down a list of all the times they unnecessarily cut away to show a non-important clip of Jett @ A2... I barely got thru the 2nd 450 race and gave up. I wasted too much energy to show the people the truth and I got arm pump writing down all the incidents... about time someone else showed the over-saturation. Thank God. I love this.

jjavaman wrote:

You actually wrote down how many times they mentioned Jett 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ 🍩boy is in your head😂😂

disbanded wrote:

I took a drink every time they mentioned Jett and I had alcohol poisoning by the 2nd 250 gate drop.

Motofinne wrote:

Haha i can't believe that people are so incredibly anti Jett that some of you claim that his 22-0 in the 450 class as a rookie...

Haha i can't believe that people are so incredibly anti Jett that some of you claim that his 22-0 in the 450 class as a rookie wouldn't put him in the all-timer bracket (or at the very, very minimum on the brink of it).

Sure, the dude made mistakes with the Anderson deal. Sure, he is getting a lot of exposure (95% of it is deserved). But what he did in the summer of 2023 surely puts him in the bracket as an all-time rider. It says a lot about you if you are unable to separate his exposure, his mistakes, his person from the achievement that he did in 2023.

CPR wrote:

I noticed this too, but most of these guys are blinded by their bias and only see the camera on Jett again.  They managed to capture...

I noticed this too, but most of these guys are blinded by their bias and only see the camera on Jett again. 

They managed to capture Jett approaching the gate with Ando already there, and had the two together for the first time we’ve seen since the ‘incident’. Nothing eventuated, but it was still an interesting moment after their meltdown.

Many crosses to Jett are not warranted, but that moment certainly was imo.

Sully wrote:

The possibility of catching fireworks last week makes sense, but it doesn't account for cutting to Jett at the truck getting geared up during every moto...

The possibility of catching fireworks last week makes sense, but it doesn't account for cutting to Jett at the truck getting geared up during every moto outdoors last year, or cutting to a full screen of his reaction to Hunter being taken out at A1. In all the time I've been watching this sport, I can't recall ever seeing anything like that before.

And before the "Americans don't like foreigners" crowd chimes in, I'm a big fan of Hunter. I can't wait until he puts it all together and gets up front where he belongs.

jjavaman wrote:

How many times have there brother's been at team Honda?  

Sully wrote:

The possibility of catching fireworks last week makes sense, but it doesn't account for cutting to Jett at the truck getting geared up during every moto...

The possibility of catching fireworks last week makes sense, but it doesn't account for cutting to Jett at the truck getting geared up during every moto outdoors last year, or cutting to a full screen of his reaction to Hunter being taken out at A1. In all the time I've been watching this sport, I can't recall ever seeing anything like that before.

And before the "Americans don't like foreigners" crowd chimes in, I'm a big fan of Hunter. I can't wait until he puts it all together and gets up front where he belongs.

jjavaman wrote:

How many times have there brother's been at team Honda?  

Last2Stroke wrote:

How many times have brothers won the AMA 250 and 450 Motocross Championships in the same year?

Boomslang wrote:

There is fuckall wrong with Jett acting his age. They make mistakes and learn from them. Everyone sticking a endoscope up his arse and passing judgment...

There is fuckall wrong with Jett acting his age. They make mistakes and learn from them.

Everyone sticking a endoscope up his arse and passing judgment might want to think twice. Are you actually better than him?

I have no doubt that he will mature and achieve a good living and retirement from his current profession.

Those of you who are losing sleep over Jetts current trajectory in life, please feel free to state your profession, age and what you have achieved.

Let's compare....

Boomslang wrote:

To the first guy who downvoted me, let's hear you story? You got no balls you shameless bitch...

Johnny Ringo wrote:

Calm down dude, it’s Friday. 

Ozy wrote:

I don't remember Chad Reed fan boys being this emotionally involved

Ozy wrote:

I don't remember Chad Reed fan boys being this emotionally involved

Magoofan wrote:

Kiwifan left the board in the last week because of all the meanies....

 

King_George_III wrote:

I hope he does get 72 wins just to see the meltdowns.

 

Motofinne wrote:

Haha i can't believe that people are so incredibly anti Jett that some of you claim that his 22-0 in the 450 class as a rookie...

Haha i can't believe that people are so incredibly anti Jett that some of you claim that his 22-0 in the 450 class as a rookie wouldn't put him in the all-timer bracket (or at the very, very minimum on the brink of it).

Sure, the dude made mistakes with the Anderson deal. Sure, he is getting a lot of exposure (95% of it is deserved). But what he did in the summer of 2023 surely puts him in the bracket as an all-time rider. It says a lot about you if you are unable to separate his exposure, his mistakes, his person from the achievement that he did in 2023.

profeshenal125 wrote:

Who did he beat to go 22-0 ?  Chase was riding the sx title high & was moving on to Ktm. So there was no pressure...

Who did he beat to go 22-0 ?  Chase was riding the sx title high & was moving on to Ktm. So there was no pressure to perform. I forgot his 1st rnd head injury, that was the biggest reason he couldn’t let it hang out. Another hard ding & he wouldn’t be able to get the Ktm setup.  Eli was out so name a rider that win ?  Ken lead a moto & stalled it.  The MC # of 72 is impressive kinda. But I saw a lot of Luck to get the later wins. 96 Seattle Huffman figured out how to race the 250 class in his 1st yr. Easily ran MC down then fried his clutch. Quick adjusters were on every bike the next week. Everyone knew that was Damon,s win if his clutch didn’t fry. The next week Damon easily won. Then blew his knee out testing the 125.  Ezra on the 98,99 Honda was faster but freak things like a tuff block cover wrapped around his front wheel cost him the championship.  RC let Mc win the 72nd & said you,ll never get another. And he never did.  Huffman should’ve won most of the races 96 to 2000 . But the engineers & the corporation more or less forced him to use the 97 frame, etc and it sucked. 98- 2000 ish the kx250 was garbage. Emig was a 96 champ so he  said I,m using the 96 setup. Damon was the giny pig racing with the new setup that was junk. Nobody did anything on the 97- 20000 setups. Dowd couldn’t even get it rt to win on sand tracks.L. Ward couldn’t ride it but beat stew on a stock 250f 3 yrs later. The KX was a terrible bike. Emig was happy he didn’t hv to ride it anymore after getting fired. Damon would,ve took 20 wins off MC easily. If he stuck with the 96 setup. Like MC using a 93 frame in 96 yet. Think about it the most dominant 125 sx rider with  the most podiums ever. And he rides a 250 better. The cr250 was a dominant Cheater bike. Look what MC did on the Suzuki.  The last 20+ wins where because of other riders bad decisions. So I don’t really see the 72 win # as a big deal. It should’ve been 44.  

MXMattii wrote:

A foreigner that is a real threat to the Americans on their home turf is very often disliked by them. Ask JMB, Pourcel, Reed, Ferrandis, Lawrence...

A foreigner that is a real threat to the Americans on their home turf is very often disliked by them. Ask JMB, Pourcel, Reed, Ferrandis, Lawrence brothers... Some are also just waiting till the "foreigner" puts one foot wrong to lynch him. Remember when Marvin Musquin did what KTM expected him to do, help Ryan Dungey to claim the SX Championship over Eli Tomac? From than on, even Marvin Musquin had haters.

So to sum it up, he's a foreigner who's a real threat for championships the coming years. Than you've the fact that FELD together with his agent Lucas Mirtl are trying to make him the new RC, Stewart, McGrath... annoys people. But they need to know that someone with the poster boy quality, who also wants to be the poster boy of the sport isn't found easily. We didn't saw Tomac, Sexton, Anderson step up for example. For most people is one of those two reasons enough. But if they aren't enough you can combine them with that stupid farce against Jason Anderson, and how he personally made it worse with unfollowing Jason Anderson, while his crew already handled the situation.

But in dutch we've a saying that goes as followed: If you are willing to beat the dog, you will always find a tool to do it. What I mean is: When you are an American SX & MX fan who has an American favorite, you don't need much to dislike, hate or even bash Jett Lawrence.

Spoonguy wrote:

See what you mean, people hate Roczen too.

Magoofan wrote:

Roczen, Musquin, Reed are just a few of the most loved riders.    .  Of course, there are always people who dislike someone, but the "they're...

Roczen, Musquin, Reed are just a few of the most loved riders.    . 

Of course, there are always people who dislike someone, but the "they're foreign" excuse holds zero water for the vast majority.

 

tomlopez wrote:

The funniest part to me are a percentage of Jett super-defenders who drive home the narrative of "it's so pathetic that grown men dislike a 20...

The funniest part to me are a percentage of Jett super-defenders who drive home the narrative of "it's so pathetic that grown men dislike a 20 year old that they don't even know personally - how pathetic".

Come on. Welcome to sports, buddy. People have their favorites, and people have their heels. There's nothing deeply personal or ill-contrived about rooting against a handful of athletes. Are Georgia football fans deeply fucked-up individuals for rooting against Alabama?

Motofinne wrote:

Haha i can't believe that people are so incredibly anti Jett that some of you claim that his 22-0 in the 450 class as a rookie...

Haha i can't believe that people are so incredibly anti Jett that some of you claim that his 22-0 in the 450 class as a rookie wouldn't put him in the all-timer bracket (or at the very, very minimum on the brink of it).

Sure, the dude made mistakes with the Anderson deal. Sure, he is getting a lot of exposure (95% of it is deserved). But what he did in the summer of 2023 surely puts him in the bracket as an all-time rider. It says a lot about you if you are unable to separate his exposure, his mistakes, his person from the achievement that he did in 2023.

profeshenal125 wrote:

Who did he beat to go 22-0 ?  Chase was riding the sx title high & was moving on to Ktm. So there was no pressure...

Who did he beat to go 22-0 ?  Chase was riding the sx title high & was moving on to Ktm. So there was no pressure to perform. I forgot his 1st rnd head injury, that was the biggest reason he couldn’t let it hang out. Another hard ding & he wouldn’t be able to get the Ktm setup.  Eli was out so name a rider that win ?  Ken lead a moto & stalled it.  The MC # of 72 is impressive kinda. But I saw a lot of Luck to get the later wins. 96 Seattle Huffman figured out how to race the 250 class in his 1st yr. Easily ran MC down then fried his clutch. Quick adjusters were on every bike the next week. Everyone knew that was Damon,s win if his clutch didn’t fry. The next week Damon easily won. Then blew his knee out testing the 125.  Ezra on the 98,99 Honda was faster but freak things like a tuff block cover wrapped around his front wheel cost him the championship.  RC let Mc win the 72nd & said you,ll never get another. And he never did.  Huffman should’ve won most of the races 96 to 2000 . But the engineers & the corporation more or less forced him to use the 97 frame, etc and it sucked. 98- 2000 ish the kx250 was garbage. Emig was a 96 champ so he  said I,m using the 96 setup. Damon was the giny pig racing with the new setup that was junk. Nobody did anything on the 97- 20000 setups. Dowd couldn’t even get it rt to win on sand tracks.L. Ward couldn’t ride it but beat stew on a stock 250f 3 yrs later. The KX was a terrible bike. Emig was happy he didn’t hv to ride it anymore after getting fired. Damon would,ve took 20 wins off MC easily. If he stuck with the 96 setup. Like MC using a 93 frame in 96 yet. Think about it the most dominant 125 sx rider with  the most podiums ever. And he rides a 250 better. The cr250 was a dominant Cheater bike. Look what MC did on the Suzuki.  The last 20+ wins where because of other riders bad decisions. So I don’t really see the 72 win # as a big deal. It should’ve been 44.  

CrashMaster01 wrote:

To be honest I never cared for Jett even when he was on the 250. I always pulled for his older brother than Jett.

Boomslang wrote:

Bummer, hopefully he will be back. I arrived home in a shit mood yesterday thanks to some scumbag stealing my bag with my laptop, wallet, drivers...

Bummer, hopefully he will be back.

I arrived home in a shit mood yesterday thanks to some scumbag stealing my bag with my laptop, wallet, drivers license, bank cards etc...the c@nt has created a effing monumental ball ache for me.

Anyways, life goes on. Wishing you all a good day / evening.

Andrew314 wrote:

I don't dislike Jett as a person. I despise his fans and the need they feel to have 487 threads about him here on vital. I...

I don't dislike Jett as a person. I despise his fans and the need they feel to have 487 threads about him here on vital. I hate cutting away from racing to see him scratch his nuts. The coverage and his fans are the reason I will be joining in the boos next weekend in Phoenix. 

DonM wrote:

To the point that the go to reason is "American's hate foreigners that win" narrative, to me I don't care where he comes from but only...

To the point that the go to reason is "American's hate foreigners that win" narrative, to me I don't care where he comes from but only in how he handles his success and failures in the public eye. Hate is such an over used word that is used in the place of tired of...we are tired of the over exposure that for the majority was intentional and brought on by his management. We are tired of his super fans that were making insane claims so early in his career path. We are tired of some of the dumb shit he says and does, the KR incident, the MC comparison, the JA incident and the way he and his team handled (or didn't handle) it, his response regarding the mud race and how he disrespected his competitors with that comment...hopefully he is able to learn from this and correct the path he is on.  

Magoofan wrote:

Bingo ^^^^   Enough of this shit   

Bingo ^^^^

 

Enough of this shit 

 

Omar_J wrote:

@Magoofan has a smaller pee pee than Jett. Don’t get upset mate.