Triple or quad??

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1911 wrote:
Maybe you are having bad luck at thinking today? Or  

Maybe you are having bad luck at thinking today? Or

 

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I award you no points and may god have mercy on your soul. 
 

 

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The puppy who lost his way

Whoa whoa whoa, Miss Lippy. The part of the story I don't like is that the little boy gave up looking for Happy after an hour. He didn't put posters up or anything, he just sat on the porch like a goon and waited. That little boy's gotta think 'You got a pet. You got a responsibility.' If your dog gets lost you don't look for an hour then call it quits. You get your ass out there and you find that fucking dog.

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1/20/2024 5:18pm

All I know is that it is one big fucking jump I will never attempt.!!

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1/20/2024 5:19pm

Calling it a triple is basically admitting you’re a boomer 

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A table isn't a single. You can jump onto it then jump off. Two jumps. If it's too short a table to jump on then off, then it's a single. 

The answer is quad.

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1/20/2024 5:30pm

10000% chance that if you jumped one, you would tell all ur buddies you jumped a quad at the bar later that day..

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Well, I'd weigh in but the race is starting. But just to add fuel to the fire, distance doesn't matter. 

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1/20/2024 5:59pm

I speak for everyone (that knows anything about racing) when I say this, but without question that is a quad & the poll proves that I'm correct! 😂☝🏼

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1/20/2024 6:07pm

The thing is, regardless of what you call it, when someone says "quad", you know exactly what they're referring to.  And that's how you know its a quad and not a triple.

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1/20/2024 6:43pm

It’s a Quadtricle… duh.

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1/20/2024 7:21pm Edited Date/Time 1/20/2024 7:30pm

Remember that time at Vancouver 04 when rc jumped over two tables and landed on top of the third one?
 

 

so was that a double? 

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1/20/2024 7:29pm

Never mind there was a single in the middle not another table….. so it was a quad also, would be a quintuple if he down sided the table that he landed on top of IMG 1052.png?VersionId=Hlx8Vvomc7NXGETcUHyrwV0iTv

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Remember that time at Vancouver 04 when rc jumped over two tables and landed on top of the third one?     so was that a...

Remember that time at Vancouver 04 when rc jumped over two tables and landed on top of the third one?
 

 

so was that a double? 

That was RC gettin “loose” 😂😂😂

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I don't remember anyone saying they jumped over 2 mounds of dirt in the 80's on BMX when it was a table, just saying Smile

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I don't remember anyone saying they jumped over 2 mounds of dirt in the 80's on BMX when it was a table, just saying 

I don't remember anyone saying they jumped over 2 mounds of dirt in the 80's on BMX when it was a table, just saying Smile

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I speak for everyone (that knows anything about racing) when I say this, but without question that is a quad & the poll proves that I'm...

I speak for everyone (that knows anything about racing) when I say this, but without question that is a quad & the poll proves that I'm correct! 😂☝🏼

You made a typo.  You typed "racing" when you meant to type "embellishment". 

1/21/2024 2:56am
McG194 wrote:
If you want to be a technical nerd about it you count the numbers of piles of dirt and there you have it. In general use...

If you want to be a technical nerd about it you count the numbers of piles of dirt and there you have it. In general use however I'm looking to explain the distance of said obstacle.

He tripled onto the table.

He quaded over the table.

When speaking like that everyone has a good idea the distances you are talking about. 

The only consistent approach is to count the number of landing options ignoring casing. 

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1/21/2024 6:33am Edited Date/Time 1/21/2024 6:57am
McG194 wrote:
If you want to be a technical nerd about it you count the numbers of piles of dirt and there you have it. In general use...

If you want to be a technical nerd about it you count the numbers of piles of dirt and there you have it. In general use however I'm looking to explain the distance of said obstacle.

He tripled onto the table.

He quaded over the table.

When speaking like that everyone has a good idea the distances you are talking about. 

dirtwalker wrote:

The only consistent approach is to count the number of landing options ignoring casing. 

It’s also possible to consistently count obstacles.  Single - single - table = 3 obstacles. If the rider lands on top of the table, he has tripled onto the table. If he clears it, he tripled over. Still only 3 obstacles. Quad = 4, and not landings. Having inside, outside and middle ruts through a corner doesn’t make it three corners. 

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I have thought of it this way. If you have a table top jump (don’t matter the distance) and you take out the middle dirt out you therefore have a double . Now if you were to add a single after that you would have a triple. So say you add 2 singles after the double that was a table top originally,  you have a Quad . 

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Daviboy259 wrote:
I have thought of it this way. If you have a table top jump (don’t matter the distance) and you take out the middle dirt out...

I have thought of it this way. If you have a table top jump (don’t matter the distance) and you take out the middle dirt out you therefore have a double . Now if you were to add a single after that you would have a triple. So say you add 2 singles after the double that was a table top originally,  you have a Quad . 

The terms single, double, triple, and quad are units of measure. What is it measuring? It measures how many obstacles are being included in a single bound. Like you said, distance is irrelevant. Removing dirt changes everything. A 60’ double is not the same as a 60’ table. 

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Daviboy259 wrote:
I have thought of it this way. If you have a table top jump (don’t matter the distance) and you take out the middle dirt out...

I have thought of it this way. If you have a table top jump (don’t matter the distance) and you take out the middle dirt out you therefore have a double . Now if you were to add a single after that you would have a triple. So say you add 2 singles after the double that was a table top originally,  you have a Quad . 

jnickell wrote:
The terms single, double, triple, and quad are units of measure. What is it measuring? It measures how many obstacles are being included in a single...

The terms single, double, triple, and quad are units of measure. What is it measuring? It measures how many obstacles are being included in a single bound. Like you said, distance is irrelevant. Removing dirt changes everything. A 60’ double is not the same as a 60’ table. 

It is if you jump the whole thing. And if you jump on then jump off you just did two jumps.

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viking174 wrote:

Two single and a table make  a quad or triple?

Is a 120’ table top a triple or a Quad

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Daviboy259 wrote:
I have thought of it this way. If you have a table top jump (don’t matter the distance) and you take out the middle dirt out...

I have thought of it this way. If you have a table top jump (don’t matter the distance) and you take out the middle dirt out you therefore have a double . Now if you were to add a single after that you would have a triple. So say you add 2 singles after the double that was a table top originally,  you have a Quad . 

jnickell wrote:
The terms single, double, triple, and quad are units of measure. What is it measuring? It measures how many obstacles are being included in a single...

The terms single, double, triple, and quad are units of measure. What is it measuring? It measures how many obstacles are being included in a single bound. Like you said, distance is irrelevant. Removing dirt changes everything. A 60’ double is not the same as a 60’ table. 

ns503 wrote:

It is if you jump the whole thing. And if you jump on then jump off you just did two jumps.

Okay, you did two jumps. But the important piece of this is it was on one obstacle.  If you ride up the face of the table and hop up on top then jump off, it's not a double.

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OK, I finally have time to weigh in the way I want to. I'm quite surprised that the poll seems to reflect nearly a 50/50 split on this topic, because it seems so easy to me. I doubt I'll convince you guys on the other side, but at least know I respect your opinions, most of which are at least grounded in some kind of reasoning. I disagree, but understand. Here goes:

A TABLETOP JUMP AND TWO SINGLES JUMPED AT ONCE IS A TRIPLE JUMP.

Let's start with the definition of a double jump. Two jumps which, at any distance between, are jumped as one. If we fill this in completely with dirt, it is a tabletop jump, not a double. I think we can all agree on that so far.
If I can clear the two jumps in 2nd gear, it's a double. If I pin it in 3rd and land 25 feet past it, I overjumped the double. If Magoo comes back to life and hits it on a CR500, pinned in 4th and lands 60 feet past it, he overjumped the double. The obstacle does not become a triple, nor a quad simply because someone landed farther away. 
Now on to a standard triple jump: Three individual jumps which, at any distance between, are jumped all at once. These three individual obstacles are a triple, no matter how far a rider jumps over it. All the same measurements apply. It does not become a quad or q quintuple because someone jumps past it.

Here come the variations, though. What if one jump is larger than the others? Still a triple. What if one is slightly farther away? Still a triple. What if you can land on top of one of the jumps, though? Here's where semantics come into play. I believe this is what is confusing the issue. 
When I was learning to ride/race, the idea of a supercross triple was just coming into play. There were often times obstacles like today wherein the final jump was a tabletop. Nobody ever called that a quad, whether they jumped the whole thing or not; it was simply a triple (as it is today, too). To describe the action a rider completes depending on where he lands is easy: he "tripled" onto the last jump, or he "tripled over" it. Three mounds of dirt = a triple jump, whether they are 78 feet apart or three braking bumps. The act of jumping over three bumps is called "tripling." Tri = three.

A quad would require the addition of a fourth, separate and individual mound of dirt to the equation. Four jumps = quad. Note that this is an elegant way to describe the obstacle: mathematically perfect, and non-reliant on opinion or measurement of distance. (We don't have to say "this one's a quad because you can land on top, but that one isn't because it is 9 inches shorter and James Stewart can land on it but Malcolm Stewart cannot," etc. It's not subjective.)

Here are the only things that could count as exceptions, although they still confirm to all the definitions above:
-A "swayback" tabletop could be called a double (and, by extension, a triple or quad if included with other jump(s).) This is like a double but the terrain in the middle doesn't drop as far down as "ground level." That's OK with me to call a double.
-A triple, consisting of two jumps with a tabletop after it, can be called a quad if and only if there is a significant, separate jump built somewhere on top of the tabletop. Note that there are still four jump faces involved.
-A massive tabletop-shaped thing with multiple steps. Each jump face counts toward the characterization of the jump. A big tabletop with a peak in the middle can be called a double, for instance. 

To summarize, three jumps is a triple. A quad requires four jumps, regardless of any landing options. 

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1/22/2024 12:39pm Edited Date/Time 2/19/2024 9:50am

I love this awful debate. The King called it a Quad. But he also said that it depends on the options available for that center tabletop. If you can't jump off the table, you can only jump on roll off or completely jump over the backside. Either way its a double, then if you jump over the last single its a triple. BUT if you CAN step off its a double double, hence a QUAD if you launch the whole thing.

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1/22/2024 12:58pm

It’s so friggen easy, however many jump peaks is  whether it’s a double, triple or Quad.   Tabletop is One! Peak, add two more jump peaks and that makes it a triple

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1/22/2024 1:59pm Edited Date/Time 1/22/2024 2:09pm

for all of the "you count the possible landing spots" nerds

You would be considering a camel hump a quad, and a step up (with table) a triple, that just doesnt sit right

image-20240122155931-1and AP was the only person I saw hit this "triple" in the race by landing on the downside (not shown in this photo)

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