Jett first rookie to win A1??

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Forgive me if I’m wrong but didn’t Roczen win his debut 450 race and beat the likes of Villopoto and Dungey in his rookie race? Or am I wrong…?

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mc795 wrote:
Forgive me if I’m wrong but didn’t Roczen win his debut 450 race and beat the likes of Villopoto and Dungey in his rookie race? Or...

Forgive me if I’m wrong but didn’t Roczen win his debut 450 race and beat the likes of Villopoto and Dungey in his rookie race? Or am I wrong…?

nah unfortunately not cause roczen ended up racing Daytona on tht 350 I believe the season before 

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Forgive me if I’m wrong but didn’t Roczen win his debut 450 race and beat the likes of Villopoto and Dungey in his rookie race? Or...

Forgive me if I’m wrong but didn’t Roczen win his debut 450 race and beat the likes of Villopoto and Dungey in his rookie race? Or am I wrong…?

stewie94 wrote:

nah unfortunately not cause roczen ended up racing Daytona on tht 350 I believe the season before 

Oh I forgot about that, thank you. Just seemed like they’re dancing around the fact Roczen has won his first debut race on a 450** haha. I’m on the Jett hype train but not at the cost of diminishing other riders previous achievements. 

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Jett has 2 450 titles, so let's go easy on the rookie talk...

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Was Josh grant not a rookie and won a1 in 09?

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mc795 wrote:
Forgive me if I’m wrong but didn’t Roczen win his debut 450 race and beat the likes of Villopoto and Dungey in his rookie race? Or...

Forgive me if I’m wrong but didn’t Roczen win his debut 450 race and beat the likes of Villopoto and Dungey in his rookie race? Or am I wrong…?

stewie94 wrote:

nah unfortunately not cause roczen ended up racing Daytona on tht 350 I believe the season before 

Roczen raced a couple 450 races in 2011, 2012 AND 2013

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Timo wrote:

Jett has 2 450 titles, so let's go easy on the rookie talk...

At least 1.5

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Timo wrote:

Jett has 2 450 titles, so let's go easy on the rookie talk...

He's a rookie no matter how you want to slice it. 

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1/6/2024 8:07pm

Funny how they didn’t include roczen and grant in that list of early winners and just want to compare Jett to rc stew reed and McGrath constantly 

 

either way congrats to Jett he will definetly leave a big impression 

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1/6/2024 8:10pm

Bradshaw won his debut but did race one race the year before.

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Was Josh grant not a rookie and won a1 in 09?

You’re right 

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In before oldmate posts his photo taking all the credit 

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1/6/2024 8:13pm

Grant also raced one race the year before.

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1/6/2024 8:19pm Edited Date/Time 1/6/2024 8:20pm

Why is there talk. Dude wiped the floor. I had the most respect for the Aussie.  He simply out competed everyone. I was hoping for a variety of riders to challenge. They didn't. He won if he continues is a great question with lots a questing marks. Stop looking at a question with unreasonable ideas. The guy proved he is worthy.

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Why is there talk. Dude wiped the floor. I had the most respect for the Aussie.  He simply out competed everyone. I was hoping for a...

Why is there talk. Dude wiped the floor. I had the most respect for the Aussie.  He simply out competed everyone. I was hoping for a variety of riders to challenge. They didn't. He won if he continues is a great question with lots a questing marks. Stop looking at a question with unreasonable ideas. The guy proved he is worthy.

I’m not trying to discredit Jett, as I mentioned I am a fan and was stoked to see him win. I was just confused on the what the specifications were for him to obtain the “first ever premier rookie to win debut” as I had thought that title was taken years ago. I was wrong. 

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Reed, Grant, Bradshaw, and Roczen all won their debut races for their first full rookie year on the big bike. Jett is the first to win his first ever SX race on the big bike. Technicalities for sure. Impressive by all of them no question.

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I'm the first Rookie to walk on the dark side of the Moon🇺🇸🤘

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Reed, Grant, Bradshaw, and Roczen all won their debut races for their first full rookie year on the big bike. Jett is the first to win...

Reed, Grant, Bradshaw, and Roczen all won their debut races for their first full rookie year on the big bike. Jett is the first to win his first ever SX race on the big bike. Technicalities for sure. Impressive by all of them no question.

This, and the list they broadcasted was of the top five all time SX winners and how many races it took them to win a 450 SX. That’s why others weren’t included.

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Reed, Grant, Bradshaw, and Roczen all won their debut races for their first full rookie year on the big bike. Jett is the first to win...

Reed, Grant, Bradshaw, and Roczen all won their debut races for their first full rookie year on the big bike. Jett is the first to win his first ever SX race on the big bike. Technicalities for sure. Impressive by all of them no question.

Nope. Pierre Karsmakers was at Daytona. Not a tailored stat, just a made up one. 

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Tortelli won his 2nd 250 race.  I thought it was his first. 

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Marty Tripes?

Took him 11 races.

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Tortelli 98 ? 🤔

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1/7/2024 7:33am
WCRider wrote:

Tortelli 98 ? 🤔

No. Like it was written just above, 98 L.A. Coliseum SX was his second race in the 250cc category (first one was in 97).

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Reed, Grant, Bradshaw, and Roczen all won their debut races for their first full rookie year on the big bike. Jett is the first to win...

Reed, Grant, Bradshaw, and Roczen all won their debut races for their first full rookie year on the big bike. Jett is the first to win his first ever SX race on the big bike. Technicalities for sure. Impressive by all of them no question.

If those guys doing one round the year before discredits them from the stat, shouldn’t smx discredit Jett? The smx tracks were supercross without whoops let’s be honest.

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WCRider wrote:

Tortelli 98 ? 🤔

It was his second race. 

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Reed, Grant, Bradshaw, and Roczen all won their debut races for their first full rookie year on the big bike. Jett is the first to win...

Reed, Grant, Bradshaw, and Roczen all won their debut races for their first full rookie year on the big bike. Jett is the first to win his first ever SX race on the big bike. Technicalities for sure. Impressive by all of them no question.

yz133rider wrote:
If those guys doing one round the year before discredits them from the stat, shouldn’t smx discredit Jett? The smx tracks were supercross without whoops let’s...

If those guys doing one round the year before discredits them from the stat, shouldn’t smx discredit Jett? The smx tracks were supercross without whoops let’s be honest.

Yeah I mean I get Jett fans or even fans in general want to be a part of a cool stat like that. Just doesn’t quite add up in reality. Technically yes I get it. But like you said, his first SMX race he did not win and those other guys stepping up in the middle of their 125/250/lites career for one or two rounds seems silly to count. I highly doubt Jett would have won his first race last year if he rode some West Coast rounds on the 450.

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1/7/2024 7:42am

Technically ….. who won the very 1st Supercross race ever? That would have been the 1st rookie to win.

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1/7/2024 8:45am

Jett shouldn't count his chickens early....One complete knee rebuild or chronic shoulder separations and he could end up like AC.....  

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Reed, Grant, Bradshaw, and Roczen all won their debut races for their first full rookie year on the big bike. Jett is the first to win...

Reed, Grant, Bradshaw, and Roczen all won their debut races for their first full rookie year on the big bike. Jett is the first to win his first ever SX race on the big bike. Technicalities for sure. Impressive by all of them no question.

yz133rider wrote:
If those guys doing one round the year before discredits them from the stat, shouldn’t smx discredit Jett? The smx tracks were supercross without whoops let’s...

If those guys doing one round the year before discredits them from the stat, shouldn’t smx discredit Jett? The smx tracks were supercross without whoops let’s be honest.

No, because they were not supercross races and were nothing remotely similar to a supercross race, outside of LA

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