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"I know they have been in contact with the engineers at Stark as well to discuss these issue, so I think we're on the right track to making things happen!"
Looks like you and the blind falcon are the only folks left on the planet that think there is nothing more to it.
So you don't actually have a clue or any evidence to back up what you originally stated as fact?
Got it.
So you can't back up your claim that I moved the goal posts?
Got it.
It's honestly amazing you could be as stupid as you are and survived to be as old as you have. Gotta be dumb luck.
Sure I can and will as soon as you back up your claim that I moved mine.
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Should we dig up the 40+ page thread where it got to the point that you claimed buying an ICE bike would help stop child slavery?
Remember...the one where you backed up how fast you were by showing off podium trophies from a class with 3 people?
...says the guy who had never heard of the hot up and coming polish rider ten minutes ago and is locked in first degree mode.
Please do...
Say what you will, but he does race MX and buys MX bikes. I'm not clear what your vested interest is in e-bikes yet, and you have indicated you won't be buying one.
There you go again claiming your complete fucking ignorance as fact....just because I think the Polish crowd would have liked to see Taddy race doesn't mean I've never heard of Olszowy.
So you went in little bitch mode and deleted a bunch of posts again?
Got it.
I'm just here to point out the ignorant hypocrisy of these same clowns in every fucking Stark thread spouting off non-sense.
I also never said I wouldn't buy one, I said I'd wait to buy a lightly used one. Ironically, a guy like MXAddic is exactly who I like to buy bikes from, his is probably well maintained and for sure has never been ridden that hard. But hey....spin it however you want if it makes you feel better, we've come to recognize that you anti Starkers will do and say anything to try to be right.
"hypocrisy"
https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/hypocrisy
Say's the guy who is never wrong.
Oh man... A little bit of humor in injection would do you real good, if you ask me.
I know, you don't.
Still, I should be an inspiration to you: between your replies to me and those to MxAddic, it's really hard for me to take anything you write seriously.
See, that's funny: I'm here to point out the ignorant hypocrisy of these same clowns in every fucking Stark thread spouting off non-sense.
Just not the same clowns.
Essentially the biggest concern at the moment is lack of noise, and that other riders will not know that you are there. I don't necessarily agree personally with the severity of that concern, which is just a difference of opinion between us, but I think that it's something that can be addressed to help move things forward. Prior to our meeting I was under the impression that the biggest obstacle to allowing integration of electric with gas was figuring out what power limits were appropriate and how they can be fairly enforced, but I was actually really encouraged that they didn't see this as a huge issue to overcome because I truly don't think it will be either. Bottom line is now we have a clear understanding of the concerns at hand and can start working to address them, which is a big step in the right direction.
If lack of noise is an issue, and the solution is fitting electric bikes with noise generating devices, they would also need to be fitted to ICE bikes, ICE bikes make little noise when braking.
Interesting, in fact if this is it, it does not seem such a big hurdle?
Here is what Tortelli (from Stark) said to motoverte in an interview last October:
In an interview on Motoverte.com, FFM President Sébastien Poirier raised the possibility of fitting a noisemaker to the Stark for safety reasons in competition...
Sébastien Tortelli : It's a possibility. We've already discussed it within the company. That's why it was important for us to take part in races as soon as possible, so that we could make changes if necessary. So yes, why not. What noise? You can imagine anything. Today, everything runs on Bluetooth and all we have to do is to attach a speaker. It's possible that in the future, a minimum decibel level will be required in competition.
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My buddy always used to sing to me if he passed. Annoying as hell.
Yeah with electrics riders could address each other while passing. I wasn't really thinking about singing though
Very well, thanks. Appears to be an easy enough problem to solve on its face at least.
Neighborhood ice cream truck music would be hilarious @ 90Db !
Literally people yell at the top of their lungs if they wanna let someone know they are right behind. Screaming at a high pitch is more audible than revving a bassy exhaust tone.
The noise argument is weak with regard to motocross/supercross/enduro
As far as noise and lack of it.Many Pro riders have talked about how they are unable to hear Kenny when he is behind them. When he is riding in a high gear . I do not remember any of them saying they felt it was dangerous. Just that they were often surprised by him.
It sounds kinda silly to need to add noise. But if that is what is needed to race electric and gas together. It shouldn't be too hard to figure out. I think a horn would work. There is a local Vet racer who has run a horn before in NESC races. I think they should allow the Vargs in any class that is not a specific displacement class. And see how that works out.
A big difference between making the rules for allowing 4 strokes and introducing Electrics. Is that You will not cost manufactures millions of dollars by reducing the power levels allowed. No need to retool to build smaller/larger displacement engines. So really they should be able to fix any giant advantages they give to an electric bike without making the manufactures mad and costing them money and R&D. If the displacement of a 4 stroke was adjustable on the fly, maybe we would not have the big power advantage a 450 has over a 250 2 stroke.
Better to quiet down the loud 4 strokes to 92db at 20 inches on a 45 degree.
The issue with noise is what people outside the track hear, the better test would be 40db at the property boundary.
Taddy confirms he's in to develop the forthcoming enduro version, as he says he has seen it all in off-road, what better test rider do you need?
Sure he's "past his prime", he was "only" the third best rider in the world in 2023, that's why he is happy to take on this role at this stage of his career.
You know better than anybody else at this point, but I bet the progress is an e class, that solves literally every_single_hurdle and concern for pretty much any promoter. The noise level among racers would make the e-bikes audible to other competitors, there is no concern for HP settings since they are wide open, if extra safety crews need be on the track, they would know when to be present, it is the only thing that makes sense and solves everything that could be asked.
I have no idea why people can't be enthusiastic about having a class dedicated like this, why does everyone feel like they have to race with bikes that are entirely different to be 'satisfied'? I am not sure what people think that needs to be proven. If it is the obvious 30% (or so) HP difference, we don't need to mix classes to realize that, there is a clear and significant HP difference, and likely even power delivery. If they underperform with such an advantage, people will throw them to the wolves, not much to be gained there either. The world would be a better place if we just had a dedicated class for them and call it good, just like all other forms of racing that allow electric power.
No news from FIM on this front but since we're talking enduro, one guy did not wait for the Varg enduro version and made his own, it's pretty cool, check it out
Woah, the guy was able to plug some lights on an electric bike? Truly amaaaaaazing.
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