Wsx Abu Dhabi thoughts ?

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Just watching the motos. This does not look like a top tier product, looks more like AX lol.

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11/4/2023 8:05pm

My observation from Instagram clips… don’t leave the door open… 33 second lap time this is arenacrash cry me a river… if you get stuffed when you leave the door wide the fuck open. Good night 

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11/4/2023 9:03pm Edited Date/Time 11/4/2023 9:06pm
SenditDan wrote:
Next round will be a larger track and I believe it fits this format. However, last night's track/stadium does not fit this format. Too many bikes...

Next round will be a larger track and I believe it fits this format. However, last night's track/stadium does not fit this format. Too many bikes on a tight track/stadium.

Going to different countries with SX you will not always have access to large stadiums so why not change the format so that it fits the size of the track better.

Ie: have more heats less riders in each heat for small tracks then visit a country with a large stadium go back to the normal format.

Have the formats tailored for each venue and release it at the start of the year what countries/venues will have what race formats.

Last night's first lap in every race saw riders on the floor and was just mayhem!

I'm a believer in this series, it has a spot in out sport just need to get some things right, will take time but it will get there!

Soccer (football) is the most popular sport in the entire world and every country on earth has soccer stadiums. The field in a soccer stadium is the same length as an nfl football field but its a good bit wider. This means theres plentyyy of large stadiums around the world for full size sx races to be held in. On top of that you have cricket stadiums in many countries (former british colonies) and you have baseball stadiums in many east asian countries. 
 

On top of all of those you can get even more creative to where many countries have f1 racing venues and different types of car racing tracks. Daytona, Charlotte, plus now smx has shown us how valuable these can be as well to be used as sx tracks. Just like Daytona most f1 tracks have large bleachers and a grass infield area that could be used to build an sx track. Theres really no excuse for using basketball arena sized venues when theres soo many options available out there, they just need to get creative and think a tiny bit outside the box. The options exist out there for them to take advantage of, I hope they do I’m rooting for this series to succeed.

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I liked it, but I'm also drunk.

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Whatever happened to Friese paying someone to take out Brayton last year?  Did that get resolved while I was out riding or is wsx pretending like it didn't happen? 

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Pop Shmoke wrote:
Soccer (football) is the most popular sport in the entire world and every country on earth has soccer stadiums. The field in a soccer stadium is...

Soccer (football) is the most popular sport in the entire world and every country on earth has soccer stadiums. The field in a soccer stadium is the same length as an nfl football field but its a good bit wider. This means theres plentyyy of large stadiums around the world for full size sx races to be held in. On top of that you have cricket stadiums in many countries (former british colonies) and you have baseball stadiums in many east asian countries. 
 

On top of all of those you can get even more creative to where many countries have f1 racing venues and different types of car racing tracks. Daytona, Charlotte, plus now smx has shown us how valuable these can be as well to be used as sx tracks. Just like Daytona most f1 tracks have large bleachers and a grass infield area that could be used to build an sx track. Theres really no excuse for using basketball arena sized venues when theres soo many options available out there, they just need to get creative and think a tiny bit outside the box. The options exist out there for them to take advantage of, I hope they do I’m rooting for this series to succeed.

They probably don't want their pitch destroyed, and the costs to replace it would be crippling for the promoter.

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RACING wrote:
Does anybody still think this thing is actually "good for the sport" in any way? Do you feel it's a good showcase to "grow the sport"?

Does anybody still think this thing is actually "good for the sport" in any way?

Do you feel it's a good showcase to "grow the sport"?

Whistling

Dude seriously shut up. We get it you hate it, fair enough but get over it.

We don't all live in the U.S, the majority of us that don't can't afford to fly over to the U.S to watch Kenny or Wilson, or Brayton or the likes.

But what this series does is bring those riders to other parts of the world and gives us a chance to see them race in person.

In a few weeks time I will get the chance to see Kenny in action live,  on track. This is the same team that put together the AusX which again is a great well put together event with great coverage.

Sure not everything was perfect last night, the commentary team does not seem to work, thought Mailn was great but Langston struggled, or maybe it was just the combination, maybe they get better over time together, but between that and some timing mistakes, the overall TV production was not the best for sure.

A lot of the same team running WSX also run the Australian championship, a great championship on a mixture of tracks like last night and some bigger tracks, with some world class riders that come over for it.I have seen what this same team is capable of putting together so know at some point it will come together and be a slick show.

The racing itself was entertaining, the track was tight which made for close racing, multiple race leaders in most races, battles all the way through the field, crowd at the track seemed to be right into it and Vince made sure the crowd were divided, was funny watching some cheer his passes, but nothing will top the double 1 finger salute the big fella in the crowd gave him after one of his many sketchy moments. How were you not entertained by that?

Overall as many or more positives than negatives.

End of the day if it is that bad, stop watching and posting about it and pretend it does not exist, clearly they have you hooked, you can't stop talking about it and can 100% guarantee you will be tuning in again for the Australian round in a few weeks time!

 

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11/4/2023 10:39pm Edited Date/Time 11/4/2023 10:40pm
RACING wrote:
Does anybody still think this thing is actually "good for the sport" in any way? Do you feel it's a good showcase to "grow the sport"?

Does anybody still think this thing is actually "good for the sport" in any way?

Do you feel it's a good showcase to "grow the sport"?

Whistling

Aaryn234 wrote:
Dude seriously shut up. We get it you hate it, fair enough but get over it. We don't all live in the U.S, the majority of...

Dude seriously shut up. We get it you hate it, fair enough but get over it.

We don't all live in the U.S, the majority of us that don't can't afford to fly over to the U.S to watch Kenny or Wilson, or Brayton or the likes.

But what this series does is bring those riders to other parts of the world and gives us a chance to see them race in person.

In a few weeks time I will get the chance to see Kenny in action live,  on track. This is the same team that put together the AusX which again is a great well put together event with great coverage.

Sure not everything was perfect last night, the commentary team does not seem to work, thought Mailn was great but Langston struggled, or maybe it was just the combination, maybe they get better over time together, but between that and some timing mistakes, the overall TV production was not the best for sure.

A lot of the same team running WSX also run the Australian championship, a great championship on a mixture of tracks like last night and some bigger tracks, with some world class riders that come over for it.I have seen what this same team is capable of putting together so know at some point it will come together and be a slick show.

The racing itself was entertaining, the track was tight which made for close racing, multiple race leaders in most races, battles all the way through the field, crowd at the track seemed to be right into it and Vince made sure the crowd were divided, was funny watching some cheer his passes, but nothing will top the double 1 finger salute the big fella in the crowd gave him after one of his many sketchy moments. How were you not entertained by that?

Overall as many or more positives than negatives.

End of the day if it is that bad, stop watching and posting about it and pretend it does not exist, clearly they have you hooked, you can't stop talking about it and can 100% guarantee you will be tuning in again for the Australian round in a few weeks time!

 

They did a good job with the Aus SX and you still got to see those riders.  The problem is Adam and others are trying to call this a world class series and it's a third rate fair race at best.  There is no doubt Langston and Reed left shaking their heads and hoping the checks cash after having their names affiliated with this weak ass attempt at a race.

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Thoughts?

What a fucking embarrassment for everyone involved. 
 

“World Championship”….so prestigious LOLz

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11/4/2023 11:43pm
Aaryn234 wrote:
Dude seriously shut up. We get it you hate it, fair enough but get over it. We don't all live in the U.S, the majority of...

Dude seriously shut up. We get it you hate it, fair enough but get over it.

We don't all live in the U.S, the majority of us that don't can't afford to fly over to the U.S to watch Kenny or Wilson, or Brayton or the likes.

But what this series does is bring those riders to other parts of the world and gives us a chance to see them race in person.

In a few weeks time I will get the chance to see Kenny in action live,  on track. This is the same team that put together the AusX which again is a great well put together event with great coverage.

Sure not everything was perfect last night, the commentary team does not seem to work, thought Mailn was great but Langston struggled, or maybe it was just the combination, maybe they get better over time together, but between that and some timing mistakes, the overall TV production was not the best for sure.

A lot of the same team running WSX also run the Australian championship, a great championship on a mixture of tracks like last night and some bigger tracks, with some world class riders that come over for it.I have seen what this same team is capable of putting together so know at some point it will come together and be a slick show.

The racing itself was entertaining, the track was tight which made for close racing, multiple race leaders in most races, battles all the way through the field, crowd at the track seemed to be right into it and Vince made sure the crowd were divided, was funny watching some cheer his passes, but nothing will top the double 1 finger salute the big fella in the crowd gave him after one of his many sketchy moments. How were you not entertained by that?

Overall as many or more positives than negatives.

End of the day if it is that bad, stop watching and posting about it and pretend it does not exist, clearly they have you hooked, you can't stop talking about it and can 100% guarantee you will be tuning in again for the Australian round in a few weeks time!

 

What are all the positives that outweigh the negative? Genuinely want to know. 

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Aaryn234 wrote:
Dude seriously shut up. We get it you hate it, fair enough but get over it. We don't all live in the U.S, the majority of...

Dude seriously shut up. We get it you hate it, fair enough but get over it.

We don't all live in the U.S, the majority of us that don't can't afford to fly over to the U.S to watch Kenny or Wilson, or Brayton or the likes.

But what this series does is bring those riders to other parts of the world and gives us a chance to see them race in person.

In a few weeks time I will get the chance to see Kenny in action live,  on track. This is the same team that put together the AusX which again is a great well put together event with great coverage.

Sure not everything was perfect last night, the commentary team does not seem to work, thought Mailn was great but Langston struggled, or maybe it was just the combination, maybe they get better over time together, but between that and some timing mistakes, the overall TV production was not the best for sure.

A lot of the same team running WSX also run the Australian championship, a great championship on a mixture of tracks like last night and some bigger tracks, with some world class riders that come over for it.I have seen what this same team is capable of putting together so know at some point it will come together and be a slick show.

The racing itself was entertaining, the track was tight which made for close racing, multiple race leaders in most races, battles all the way through the field, crowd at the track seemed to be right into it and Vince made sure the crowd were divided, was funny watching some cheer his passes, but nothing will top the double 1 finger salute the big fella in the crowd gave him after one of his many sketchy moments. How were you not entertained by that?

Overall as many or more positives than negatives.

End of the day if it is that bad, stop watching and posting about it and pretend it does not exist, clearly they have you hooked, you can't stop talking about it and can 100% guarantee you will be tuning in again for the Australian round in a few weeks time!

 

What are all the positives that outweigh the negative? Genuinely want to know. 

World class riders, racing in front of crowds that would never get the chance to see them

Taking Supercross to the world, lets face, FELD are never taking their series world wide, it will always be an American championship, with the world best SX riders.

Tight and entertaining racing

Could watch world wide, I think for most it was free.

Any racing is better than no racing at this time of the year.

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Negatives

Shit dirt and small track ( Though didn't think track was to bad seen a lot less passing on much bigger tracks)

Commentary team did not jell

Timing issues which lead to one racing having the wrong rider flagged as race winner.

TV production was not as smooth as it could have been.

 

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Justin Brayton...."You want people to take it serious? Good luck" RWR wasn't going to show up and made their decision to come last Sunday night... Throwing...

Justin Brayton...."You want people to take it serious? Good luck"

RWR wasn't going to show up and made their decision to come last Sunday night...

Throwing a checkered flag to the wrong rider...

Sub par and unreliable equipment to build the track with, they were down to one skid steer that worked...

The FIM either unwilling to or unable to handle Friese....they did nothing last year and what he did today at the very least should have been met with a penalty...

Riders complaining that by only having three races cut what they could make in half...

Not one rider had anything good to say about the track, track prep and organization...not one.

Adam Bailey and the FIM have had enough time and races to work these bugs out and it continually gets worse, the riders are fed up, the teams are fed up, it's evident that Bailey and the FIM are the issue and have no idea what they are doing and in the end will fail and that's too bad as the real losers are the riders....

Things have been substantially worse at the Overseas races. I think rocking up to a foreign country and throwing in a big event is harder than they have anticipated. The first Aus SX was a bit of a shit show too.

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BikePilot wrote:
Whatever happened to Friese paying someone to take out Brayton last year?  Did that get resolved while I was out riding or is wsx pretending like...

Whatever happened to Friese paying someone to take out Brayton last year?  Did that get resolved while I was out riding or is wsx pretending like it didn't happen? 

Normally people get banned for life... Wsx or FIM didnt do anything and still trying to call this World Championship event... what a joke. 

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Canada, SX, WSX, i don’t care where it is if Vince freezer is in the race I am fuckin watchin every lap! And I am here for the side by side interviews after

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RACING wrote:
Does anybody still think this thing is actually "good for the sport" in any way? Do you feel it's a good showcase to "grow the sport"?

Does anybody still think this thing is actually "good for the sport" in any way?

Do you feel it's a good showcase to "grow the sport"?

Whistling

Aaryn234 wrote:
Dude seriously shut up. We get it you hate it, fair enough but get over it. We don't all live in the U.S, the majority of...

Dude seriously shut up. We get it you hate it, fair enough but get over it.

We don't all live in the U.S, the majority of us that don't can't afford to fly over to the U.S to watch Kenny or Wilson, or Brayton or the likes.

But what this series does is bring those riders to other parts of the world and gives us a chance to see them race in person.

In a few weeks time I will get the chance to see Kenny in action live,  on track. This is the same team that put together the AusX which again is a great well put together event with great coverage.

Sure not everything was perfect last night, the commentary team does not seem to work, thought Mailn was great but Langston struggled, or maybe it was just the combination, maybe they get better over time together, but between that and some timing mistakes, the overall TV production was not the best for sure.

A lot of the same team running WSX also run the Australian championship, a great championship on a mixture of tracks like last night and some bigger tracks, with some world class riders that come over for it.I have seen what this same team is capable of putting together so know at some point it will come together and be a slick show.

The racing itself was entertaining, the track was tight which made for close racing, multiple race leaders in most races, battles all the way through the field, crowd at the track seemed to be right into it and Vince made sure the crowd were divided, was funny watching some cheer his passes, but nothing will top the double 1 finger salute the big fella in the crowd gave him after one of his many sketchy moments. How were you not entertained by that?

Overall as many or more positives than negatives.

End of the day if it is that bad, stop watching and posting about it and pretend it does not exist, clearly they have you hooked, you can't stop talking about it and can 100% guarantee you will be tuning in again for the Australian round in a few weeks time!

 

Me shuting up won't change the actual truth one bit.

This series is pitiful. And it hit rock bottom in Abu Dhabi.

 

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11/5/2023 3:14am
SydAus wrote:
Track map for WSX Abu Dhabi  

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Track map for WSX Abu Dhabi

 

Magoofan wrote:

Corrected:     "Track map for wARENACROSS Abu Dhabi"  

SydAus wrote:

Why so negative - bet the kids goi g to watch will love it

It's obvious why, he has 4000+ posts since may of '21, the dude needs to get out and ride some instead of posting so much on here. I am 54 and love the sport more than ever, so I can't understand why this guy has something negative to say with just about every post. eh, maybe someone on a four stroke stole his girl at some point in time who knows. It really must suck going through life that bitter.

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tmauto769 wrote:
It's obvious why, he has 4000+ posts since may of '21, the dude needs to get out and ride some instead of posting so much on...

It's obvious why, he has 4000+ posts since may of '21, the dude needs to get out and ride some instead of posting so much on here. I am 54 and love the sport more than ever, so I can't understand why this guy has something negative to say with just about every post. eh, maybe someone on a four stroke stole his girl at some point in time who knows. It really must suck going through life that bitter.

And yet here you are, at the age of 54, a creepy profile stalker. 

You and reese must be brothers from another mother.

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11/5/2023 3:53am
Aaryn234 wrote:
Dude seriously shut up. We get it you hate it, fair enough but get over it. We don't all live in the U.S, the majority of...

Dude seriously shut up. We get it you hate it, fair enough but get over it.

We don't all live in the U.S, the majority of us that don't can't afford to fly over to the U.S to watch Kenny or Wilson, or Brayton or the likes.

But what this series does is bring those riders to other parts of the world and gives us a chance to see them race in person.

In a few weeks time I will get the chance to see Kenny in action live,  on track. This is the same team that put together the AusX which again is a great well put together event with great coverage.

Sure not everything was perfect last night, the commentary team does not seem to work, thought Mailn was great but Langston struggled, or maybe it was just the combination, maybe they get better over time together, but between that and some timing mistakes, the overall TV production was not the best for sure.

A lot of the same team running WSX also run the Australian championship, a great championship on a mixture of tracks like last night and some bigger tracks, with some world class riders that come over for it.I have seen what this same team is capable of putting together so know at some point it will come together and be a slick show.

The racing itself was entertaining, the track was tight which made for close racing, multiple race leaders in most races, battles all the way through the field, crowd at the track seemed to be right into it and Vince made sure the crowd were divided, was funny watching some cheer his passes, but nothing will top the double 1 finger salute the big fella in the crowd gave him after one of his many sketchy moments. How were you not entertained by that?

Overall as many or more positives than negatives.

End of the day if it is that bad, stop watching and posting about it and pretend it does not exist, clearly they have you hooked, you can't stop talking about it and can 100% guarantee you will be tuning in again for the Australian round in a few weeks time!

 

The series, if it can be called one, is an exhibition of Arenacross in International venues.  They oversold it with claims of World Championship of Supercross. 

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11/5/2023 4:57am Edited Date/Time 11/5/2023 4:58am

The track sucked. One lined would be understated.

Friese is a dick, I was hoping someone would get mad enough to punt him like a 60yd field goal.

Kenny was a bright spot in an otherwise boring race. Most people finished close to where they started.

McElrath, not much to say here. 

 

And change the name to Whack-a-Dolt SX.

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I am not a WSX hater by any means and actually want it to succeed as an offseason thing for our guys, euros, and aussies to compete in and make some decent money. That being said, I watched the entire Abu Dhabi round and it was pretty embarrassing and seemed very low budget. It looks like there whole deal is on life support to me. 

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11/5/2023 6:18am

Amazing racing, Friese for sure caused some drama. Really entertaining night of racing, good job Wilson, Savatgy and Roczen.

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I liked it. the double line up was interesting.

it reminds me of German sx style racing. Is it ama sx no of course not. But it’s racing that’s fun to watch.

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My observation from Instagram clips… don’t leave the door open… 33 second lap time this is arenacrash cry me a river… if you get stuffed when...

My observation from Instagram clips… don’t leave the door open… 33 second lap time this is arenacrash cry me a river… if you get stuffed when you leave the door wide the fuck open. Good night 

I agree if it was only that pass.  Listen to Dean Wilson, Savatgy, Brayton, and others on the Vital post race podcasts.....He was brake checking, cross jumping, cut the track twice, and came in hot every time he had the opportunity.  Maybe watch the race instead of clips on IG too

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tmauto769 wrote:
It's obvious why, he has 4000+ posts since may of '21, the dude needs to get out and ride some instead of posting so much on...

It's obvious why, he has 4000+ posts since may of '21, the dude needs to get out and ride some instead of posting so much on here. I am 54 and love the sport more than ever, so I can't understand why this guy has something negative to say with just about every post. eh, maybe someone on a four stroke stole his girl at some point in time who knows. It really must suck going through life that bitter.

And yet here you are, at the age of 54, a creepy profile stalker. 

You and reese must be brothers from another mother.

It is weird how there are certain people who stalk like that.     There were two clowns who have tracked me through my 3 user names.  (this user account is legit by approving it with ML)

4000 posts.   Think about how much revenue I've generated for Vital....   Grinning   I honestly haven't even looked at my post count.....who da fuk cares. 

Negative/bitter....lol...   That's priceless. 

I get out and ride plenty.   

 

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Track and start was embarrassing no doubt but I love watching guys like Kenny, Dean, Savagty, Max etc. ride. I feel like we are all tuning into WSX in the same way we’d tune into a broadcast of a local barn arenacross race if it was randomly broadcasted and these guys showed up haha

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Love it or hate it, this is the most active thread on the board right now. So I’d say there is definitely room for an off season series. 
 

WSX absolutely approached this wrong from the start, but they’ve admitted that. And this race was a gong show. But the series has potential. I for one hope they figure it out and turn this into a legit off season 4-5 race series. I’m from Canada and I do travel to MX and SX races, but I’d love a reason to travel overseas and watch legitimate SX in the middle of a vacation. 

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11/5/2023 9:17am Edited Date/Time 11/5/2023 11:10am

To me the hard passes that Friese makes are the lesser of his crimes. In order of severity, in my opinion, is weaving, brake checking, and hard passes, (fine…not a fan but those three are arguably okay).  Not the unacceptable things.  Cross jumping.  We have seen this hurt riders very badly from clipping bikes mid air.  Unacceptable.  Trying to pay someone to take out another rider.  Ban for fucking life.  Rider, series, and FIM a fucking Joke.

As for WSX.  The track sucked…I still watched.  Janky production….I still watched….because I and a fan of almost any dirt bike races and there are a few legit riders so I will watch.   BUT…doing nothing about Vince and dangerous riding…and then the dude got passed and gassed it hard cutting two small turns for a bigger lead then he had before he was passed and nothing?  Fuckin really?  He is literally holding up riders and no penalty for cutting the track in front of someone that passed him.  Had he let Deano by…mayyyyybe…but to stay in front….no black flag(which is no surprise when you can’t figure out a checkered flag) and NO penalty after the race??  What a fucking joke.    I’m out.

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11/5/2023 9:21am

I turned off when they wheeled out Chad Reed.   Coming out with that fake accent! Australians don't do this.  I wonder if he spent 6 months in India, if he'd be speaking half assed like Apu Nahasapeemapetilon?  The fake accent is there one minute, then he forgets for a moment, then it comes back....  What's the deal?

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11/5/2023 9:42am

Just so we're clear, no penalties for jumping on a red cross and no penalties for cutting the track?

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11/5/2023 9:49am
CPan wrote:
Love it or hate it, this is the most active thread on the board right now. So I’d say there is definitely room for an off...

Love it or hate it, this is the most active thread on the board right now. So I’d say there is definitely room for an off season series. 
 

WSX absolutely approached this wrong from the start, but they’ve admitted that. And this race was a gong show. But the series has potential. I for one hope they figure it out and turn this into a legit off season 4-5 race series. I’m from Canada and I do travel to MX and SX races, but I’d love a reason to travel overseas and watch legitimate SX in the middle of a vacation. 

Ever been to Paris Laughing  ? 

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