Anyone want my job?

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Edited Date/Time 10/4/2023 7:14am

If anyone has recently visited the Jeff Alessi thread, you may have seen a user who caused a bit of stir. Said user had his account banned form the forum and then I received this message via YouTube...

"It'd be in your best interest to not attend Arlington SX Michael"

Would anyone else like my job? Oh, the glory of it all...

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shooter88
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10/3/2023 7:38pm

It is amazing how truly pathetic some people are.

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olds cool
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10/3/2023 7:40pm

Does that legally classify as making a threat?  
Can he be charged with anything?

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joshd
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10/3/2023 7:43pm

I read said deleted post. I think I would skip Arlington this year Blink

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10/3/2023 7:45pm

Wow, that’s messed up.

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Alex814
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10/3/2023 7:50pm
olds cool wrote:

Does that legally classify as making a threat?  
Can he be charged with anything?

He didn't seem mentally sound, so probably not. 

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10/3/2023 8:01pm

Don't sweat it ML....  We all got your back.  No sense in giving this guy anymore attention.  Besides, if you roll around with shit long enough, you come up smelling just like it......

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Brad460
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10/3/2023 8:06pm

I have a former employee I terminated 9 months ago still sending me text messages. I sometimes wonder if he will show up at my house…thankfully he lives in CO otherwise I’d report him to the police.
People are crazy for sure..this guy clearly has mental issues..as with many others on this site who took pleasure in bashing Jeff over the years (which was many folks on this site).


Can this guy be tracked by his email?

 

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Meister
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10/3/2023 8:12pm

ML, get me passes and ill be your body guard. Dudes a chump. 

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crmx105
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10/3/2023 8:15pm

What a role model for his kids if he is a father?

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10/3/2023 8:15pm

Maybe we should all go to Arlington. Have some class bro.

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10/3/2023 8:15pm

ML you are the man, F that idiot 

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10/3/2023 8:19pm
ML512 wrote:
If anyone has recently visited the Jeff Alessi thread, you may have seen a user who caused a bit of stir. Said user had his account...

If anyone has recently visited the Jeff Alessi thread, you may have seen a user who caused a bit of stir. Said user had his account banned form the forum and then I received this message via YouTube...

"It'd be in your best interest to not attend Arlington SX Michael"

Would anyone else like my job? Oh, the glory of it all...

I don’t want to be the Vital KGB , so keep it ! Lol 

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10/3/2023 8:23pm

ML if you come to Denver SX I'll buy you a fancy beer of your choice

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disbanded wrote:

ML if you come to Denver SX I'll buy you a fancy beer of your choice

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10/3/2023 8:37pm

As a manager over lots of people, I feel ya.  Loaded 12 gauge is within reaching distance while sleeping at my house......but that's not all that uncommon around here.

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gerg
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10/3/2023 8:39pm Edited Date/Time 10/3/2023 8:44pm

Lol he puts up an easily identifiable username, complete with easily identifiable profile photo then outs his location via an online threat after making a total jackass out of himself in front of fuck knows how many witnesses on a hugely popular public forum.

Not the sharpest tool in the shed.

 

 

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10/3/2023 8:40pm
ML512 wrote:
If anyone has recently visited the Jeff Alessi thread, you may have seen a user who caused a bit of stir. Said user had his account...

If anyone has recently visited the Jeff Alessi thread, you may have seen a user who caused a bit of stir. Said user had his account banned form the forum and then I received this message via YouTube...

"It'd be in your best interest to not attend Arlington SX Michael"

Would anyone else like my job? Oh, the glory of it all...

I could kinda tell that dude was gonna go in a spiral the last from the last few post he's made, just kinda seemed odd IMO. Glad you got rid of em.

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10/3/2023 8:57pm

Unhinged behavior, what the fuck?

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10/3/2023 9:07pm

I've seen him around at the track I haven't actually talked to the guy yet though.  I was going to talk to him next time I saw him as we are close to the same age I think and about the same speed but WTF?  He went off the rails there.  Just leave it alone at some point dude.  Especially if he is messaging ML, come on man it's not nearly worth anything like that.  

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10/3/2023 9:16pm

I think everyone should take a step back and put down their pitch forks.  I understand forums have to be moderated and a select few need to get clipped for going way over the line occasionally, but that should be very very rare.  I'm not a fan of censoring as it's a very slippery slope.  Just because someone doesn't like what or how that user was asking in the Alessi thread doesn't mean he should be clipped permanently IMO. Like him or not, we should all have free speech, even if you disagree with him. Everyone pitch fork mobbed him for asking the cause of death, and this is a pattern here whenever there's a thread like this.  You might not like someone asking it, but the cause of death is always going to be something people want to know.  This is a public forum where nearly every single thread has some sort of disrespect in it.  There would be no Vital forums if everything was perfectly civil and classy.  It's the internet, i.e. a disrespectful place.

I'm sure most of you have received phone calls in your life from someone hysterically crying on the other end of the phone who just lost someone.  While in shock, what is the first thing you ask???  You ask what happened.  So just because most feel it's not the time or place doesn't mean someone isn't going to pose the question about the cause of death.   

As for being "disrespectful", most of us get that and I understand it's a fine line to walk when moderating a sensitive topic like this.  But censoring can cause a bit of hypocrisy.  Why was it okay to leave a 60+ page Lazergate thread from 2013 active for 10 years that was nothing but 60 pages of bashing Jeff for the laser incident?  That thread had photos of Jeff during the incident when DC was taking the laser from him, and the bashing went on for 60 pages and many years. Was that disrespectful too?  That thread was just recently resurrected with even more shit talking.  It was active up until this morning and was only removed after the news broke of Jeff passing. If Jeff hadn't passed, that thread would still be active.  So why was it okay to host a disrespectful 10yr old thread about Jeff yesterday, but it was not okay for someone to ask a disrespectful question today?  Two wrongs don't make a right, but this is why censoring is a slippery slope that be avoided at all costs.  IMO, most everything should be left up for free speech unless it's absolutely way way over the line.  I think ML actually does a great job at this compared to his predecessors.  

I don't know the posters history so all I saw was the thread this morning when he asked "the question" that resulted in bickering with other members. Based on the responses it sounds like there's more to the story that I missed.  It sucks you received a threat ML, but unfortunately that comes with the territory.  Be safe out there.

 

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10/3/2023 9:18pm
crusher773 wrote:
I've seen him around at the track I haven't actually talked to the guy yet though.  I was going to talk to him next time I...

I've seen him around at the track I haven't actually talked to the guy yet though.  I was going to talk to him next time I saw him as we are close to the same age I think and about the same speed but WTF?  He went off the rails there.  Just leave it alone at some point dude.  Especially if he is messaging ML, come on man it's not nearly worth anything like that.  

Im sure hes a good dude, who is core moto like all of us- who just over reacted. I hope he has realized he has been a dick, and comes back to contribute under another username. I will delete the link to his profile now.

 

Don't chastise him, use it as an opportunity to make a new friend

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10/3/2023 9:22pm

I don't think he meant anything by it.  I thought the same thing but he spiraled there.  Seems like a nice enough guy from what I've seen.  I've had my own share of online bickering over stupid stuff in my younger days.  You just have to learn to walk away.

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10/3/2023 9:26pm
Meister wrote:

ML, get me passes and ill be your body guard. Dudes a chump. 

Same here, I’ll even pay for my own airfare.

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10/3/2023 9:30pm
Meister wrote:

ML, get me passes and ill be your body guard. Dudes a chump. 

183Matt wrote:

Same here, I’ll even pay for my own airfare.

i’ll tag along and be a part of the personal security detail for michael… i just retired from Active Military and have nothing else to do 😂

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10/3/2023 10:01pm

I’d simply like my account back. I’ve sent DMs, emails, and created a thread in one of the other forums. 

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10/3/2023 10:21pm

Thank you ML!

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gerg
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10/4/2023 12:36am Edited Date/Time 10/4/2023 12:42am
I think everyone should take a step back and put down their pitch forks.  I understand forums have to be moderated and a select few need...

I think everyone should take a step back and put down their pitch forks.  I understand forums have to be moderated and a select few need to get clipped for going way over the line occasionally, but that should be very very rare.  I'm not a fan of censoring as it's a very slippery slope.  Just because someone doesn't like what or how that user was asking in the Alessi thread doesn't mean he should be clipped permanently IMO. Like him or not, we should all have free speech, even if you disagree with him. Everyone pitch fork mobbed him for asking the cause of death, and this is a pattern here whenever there's a thread like this.  You might not like someone asking it, but the cause of death is always going to be something people want to know.  This is a public forum where nearly every single thread has some sort of disrespect in it.  There would be no Vital forums if everything was perfectly civil and classy.  It's the internet, i.e. a disrespectful place.

I'm sure most of you have received phone calls in your life from someone hysterically crying on the other end of the phone who just lost someone.  While in shock, what is the first thing you ask???  You ask what happened.  So just because most feel it's not the time or place doesn't mean someone isn't going to pose the question about the cause of death.   

As for being "disrespectful", most of us get that and I understand it's a fine line to walk when moderating a sensitive topic like this.  But censoring can cause a bit of hypocrisy.  Why was it okay to leave a 60+ page Lazergate thread from 2013 active for 10 years that was nothing but 60 pages of bashing Jeff for the laser incident?  That thread had photos of Jeff during the incident when DC was taking the laser from him, and the bashing went on for 60 pages and many years. Was that disrespectful too?  That thread was just recently resurrected with even more shit talking.  It was active up until this morning and was only removed after the news broke of Jeff passing. If Jeff hadn't passed, that thread would still be active.  So why was it okay to host a disrespectful 10yr old thread about Jeff yesterday, but it was not okay for someone to ask a disrespectful question today?  Two wrongs don't make a right, but this is why censoring is a slippery slope that be avoided at all costs.  IMO, most everything should be left up for free speech unless it's absolutely way way over the line.  I think ML actually does a great job at this compared to his predecessors.  

I don't know the posters history so all I saw was the thread this morning when he asked "the question" that resulted in bickering with other members. Based on the responses it sounds like there's more to the story that I missed.  It sucks you received a threat ML, but unfortunately that comes with the territory.  Be safe out there.

 

I gave your post a thumbs up because in most part I agree, but there were mod pleas put out to ease up in Jeff's RIP thread...and then the fella in question came out wanting to box on when it wasn't needed.

Also...and I mean this with all due respect because I get where you are coming from in regards to censorship, but IMO there is a difference with censorship in general, compared to re-actively having to clip forum replies on a message board on the fly...especially in an emotional thread like Jeff's passing. Sad

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10/4/2023 12:57am

Blows my mind how people can write this kind of stuff on the internet due to anonymity and nothing happens. Professional atheletes, professional gamers, influencer, youtubers, people in the media etc. The amount of death threats and creepy messages these people receive is fucking disgusting. It's about time they allow that shit to be traceable and indictable. I know most of these creeps wouldn't even dare looking someone straight in the eyes in the "real world". They feel safe in their mothers basement.

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10/4/2023 2:41am

Dude is most likely full of shit and will forget he’s been banned by the time Arlington rolls around anyway. On a side note you’ve done a nice job around here so far in my opinion. Seems you know when to jump in when necessary and also when not to. Last guy was a bit heavy handed for my taste. Keep up the good work ML! 

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