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and a quieter bike opens up other locations to ride, could you imagine a 450f racing this course?
Let's make everything automatic, simpler and dumber. Can't wait for the "quad jump auto power control and gyroscopic stabilizer" button.
This is the way.
No let’s keep technology from advancing along with science because it’s better not to change and improve.
See Cave….push rock in front.
We dumbed down the powerband with 4 strokes. Now we will dumb down the gearbox. The kids love it because all they have to do is twist and hang on. No skill required.
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I can't wait until drag racing goes all electric. Those loud noisy engines are just so annoying. It will be a lot better when they are silent, so they don't hurt my delicate ears and burn my gentle sinuses with those noxious fumes.
BMX and downhill mountain biking are silent, so all motorsports should go all electric and be silent too. Because they're the same.
80HP, no shifting just twist the throttle. Geez I wonder what could go wrong when a beginner gets on and gets whiskey throttle before a jump, 200 feet OJs coming soon.
Stark has shown their true colors and I dont think the big manufacturers need to worry about them. Its not hard hire 1 person to answer emails or phone calls from paying customers. But theyre too busy creating their instagram image for funding or hopes of acquisition. Read their instagram comments on each post, It wouldnt be that hard to comment back to their customers. Inconsiderate of peoples hard earned money honestly.
I haven’t thought of an 80 HP whisky throttle, will make for interesting videos!
What will even be more interesting……some guy will figure out how to crack the clad and boost power beyond 80………will sure enough make for Whisky throttle coming to a track near you!
I tested one on Wednesday here in italy. Only 3 laps on a narrow and slippery track with some jumps. It was set to just 44 HPs and on the straights it looked already faster than my 2020 SxF 450. Can't imagine what it can be on a much stronger setting, but I'm sure it will be a serious PITA for a 4 stroke bike (or any bike).
BTW, it had the rear hand brake and it is incredibly easy to get used to it.
They made an ad about their edible skid plate and carbon emissions...this is not a serious company looking to fulfill orders.
Another reason I’d always want a clutch lever on a bike.
or a left hand rear brake!
We're not making them automatic, there just isn't a gearbox because it's not necessary. . .
Have you ever looked at the bikes on the gate for the average Vet class? $20k seems like an average Vet riders bike. I really think that putting them into the Vet classes, and an open displacement class for local races would be the best way to see how they compare to gas bikes.
My delivery date was pushed again this week. It went from November 15 to February 15. I ordered in December of '21 and lost count of how many times delivery has been pushed. I haven't really cared until I actually get mine but now I really really want one!! After getting to ride one the other night. My buddy Rory Sullivan has a demo he is taking around. He swung through Bend the other night and stopped by my place. My track is pretty small and very dusty at the moment but, I have to say, I am thoroughly impressed!! The ergo's are perfect for me. Nice and slim all the way up to the shrouds. Seat is a little firm but I didn't mind it. The bike feels super light, and turns really well. I immediately felt comfortable on the bike. The power is pretty wild!! I started it on 1 then 2 then once I became familiar with the delivery I bumped it to 3 then 4 and hit my little uphill triple and you definitely have to be ready for when it kicks in. I mentioned before, I have 24 acres in the middle of a neighborhood of 1 acre lots on the edge of Bend, Oregon city limits. We never fully expanded our track due to noise. I now can fully recognize the potential of my at home moto compound with the E MX bike. We'll see if Stark gets their $hit together. I heard Trey Canard is debuting Honda's E MX bike at The Japanese Nationals. If Honda delivers before Stark they will be crushed.
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Exactly. Its the way electric delivers power that makes it possible. Adding a transmission would just add extra weight and make it more complex. I bet that if everybody was able to try a Varg, or even just a fast electric powered vehicle. I bet half or more change their minds on many of the things they feel are big downsides.
IDK...I just priced a 24 YZ125 OTD and it is damn near 9k. For a YZ! 450s will be 11k May just wait the 13k pre-order price Stark out...apples to oranges I guess. If I could find a 6k KXF, that would be amazing.
Great, how was it? I guess 3 laps is just enough to get used to it a bit but what were your first impressions?
Well, if you ever end up stranded in the woods, and hungry, It is nice to know you have got a perfectly tasty skid plate to eat when starvation sets in. I guess it is pretty amazing they were able to take something that will take as much abuse as a skid plate, and make it edible. I still have had to look at this a few times to make sure I am not being punked, or April 1st, I can't believe a dirt bike company would have their CEO using an edible skid plate as a marketing tool, or emissions for that matter, it is electric.
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Old man yells at cloud "Kids these days, they don't know a thing about carburetor jetting !"
A clutch, what for? As ever, as technology evolves you lose some skills and learn some new skills, throttle control will be at premium without clutch modulation.
If you don't like it, don't buy it, easy, right?
Anyway here's Andris Grinfelds showing some skills, without a clutch. And so many new playgrounds are becoming available.
I've seen the "quieter bike" argument since the 70's when we didn't have silencers. Then we got the "Less sound = More ground" movement to appease the enviro freaks. And you know what happened? They started attacking us on other fronts. Erosion, dust, traffic, endangered species, injuries, the list goes on and on. You can NEVER make them happy by appeasement.
Ask the guys that have eMTB about the pushback they are getting. We'll get it too.
Electric motocrossers are still motorcycles and they will have to be sold on their own merits. And they will always face the same challenges as today...because they are motorcycles and there is an entire group of people that simply are the Fun Police.
Big difference between a 98Db engine noise and the near silence of Electric. Yes there will always be issues. But if You have Your own land, say 5 acres or so. You could have a pretty good track on Your own property and have one less reason to get shut down.
Sound has always been the number 1 reason for any riding spot to get shut down around me. Every person I know with a private track has had issues with sound. Dust and erosion is controllable on a closed course.
Trails are another story. Noise is less of an issue for trail riders that are putting in a lot of miles and not just running laps.I would agree that it might not do much for opening up or saving trail riding. But it is one less thing that can be complained about.
Inside riding spots are another thing that would be much easier to have with all electric dirtbikes riding. No fumes to vent.
For many people, the style of power that electric provides is just more fun than a 2 or 4 stroke.
At a dual sport ride this weekend, dealer has a stark here. Looks pretty cool. S/N ended in 292. Has 18” rear wheel for off road set up. Said they have a second one at the shop, this is in BFE WI. Asked about people not getting their orders and he said there’s were demos…
I'm in for the ease of maintenance and hardly no regular maintenance costs. So I can have more riding time.
Between house chores, working 50-70 hours a week, my 2 kids each having 3 dirt bikes a piece and me having 4 counting pit and play bike it seems all I do is maintenance bikes. The stark may cost a tad more than a new 450. (Actually not much more than a ktm) but the savings will come though gas and maintenance.
I'm gonna assume everyone worried about not having a gearbox or clutch are all still driving manual cars and trucks? Which is hard to do now days when they only make a select few manual cars.
Exactly, would love to see the new generation drive a stick shift eating Taco Bell sending SnapChat and slamming gears.
The closest they get to that is with paddle shifters +\- lol.
Let’s get back on point………..can you eat the skid plate by it’s self or do you have to put gravy on it to soften it up. I’m betting it take gravy.
It's marketed for MX but it's all lies, it's definitely more of a woods bike, obviously.
Carefully pick your trail and at the end, you can collect all the berries, roots and plants stuck on the skid plate and eat them (with the skid plate of course) while you're charging your bike.
That's what I call a game changer!
wabeno?
Yes, got rained on all morning so a little slick out there but the afternoon was good. Tomorrow should be pretty good 🤞
right on..I did the spring one in 2017 and 2018 I had fun both times.
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