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Why are we acting like that is some insurmountable amount of money to attain? $35k isn't really a lot of money? For a Private Individual, yea - ok, obviously. For a Team or Manufacturer, no. We both know that that is less than the contingency marked for a race win. This is a problem I have always had with a majority of the people that actually have a say in what goes on in this sport. I mean, every sport has problems, but still, this is ridiculous. I am sorry, I don't mean to take this out on you - but I've been biting my tongue so hard it's bleeding, I'm just going to say these things & rant over - I would love to expand on any of these things privately, what have you, but anyways:
1. As a Team Owner, Principal, Sporting Director, Team Manager, "Agent" - whatever fun-filled title MX people feel the need to call themselves (myself included in years past) - you should have at least a fundamental understanding of the value that each individual athlete, race, market competed in / catered to, etc. brings to you as a private entity. With that, when pitching to potential partners / sponsors, the allure of having an individual compete in an annual version of the Olympics for Motocross, in fact, does bring an added value. Especially when dealing with Anglo-XXXXXX companies. It adds an extra layer of integration within the market competed in & allows for a deeper root with the company on both sides of the pond. Yea, yea - 99% of the races are just in the States (barring MXoN in this example), but that doesn't mean that the eyes on the race are solely that of Americans? Without carrying on with this novel - any competent Director of a Program / Team or these people that call themselves "Agent" (which is a whole other hill for me to d*e on haha), would earmark $X (or ensure that $X is allocated IN CASE) in-case for this situation (so that you aren't beholden to the the sporting federation, etc.) ESPECIALLY, if they host an individual of whom has a realistic chance to go race MXoN (or FIA Motorsport Games, etc. - anything that is an extension of what the Championship season entails). Anyone who says they "don't see value in this" is simply just lazy, or don't have the means to & use that as the excuse.
2. "That event doesn’t sell moto bikes in the US. That’s why the teams race - " ie "they only care about selling bikes".
That ignorant line of one-dimensional thinking is precisely the reason why no one from outside this sport gives us 5 cents. That is a baseless statement & just blatantly lazy way of navigating this. Unless you are truly beholden to a singular company - & I quite genuinely mean a SINGLE company - fine. But no one is? Even more to the point, in saying that, you are stating that Factory's (I'm assuming that you are alluding to solely them, not Privately owned teams - given that Privately owned entities primary sources of funding / any source of funding do not come from a Manu.) ENTIRE budget's come from a Manu. no one else? So they aren't obligated to representing partnered brands in any capacity? Furthermore, you mean to tell me, that the allure of Tomac finishing off last season with a historic win at MXoN didn't directly aid in the sales of Yamahas... (in NA, ANZ, EU, Africa - anywhere?) yeaaa, ok? Or at its core - the mere fact that ANY representation of rider X on brand Y at MXoN doesn't reinforce the appeal / visibility of the given brand? That is just false?
3. "- Honestly, the teams in the US don’t really care about that event anymore except when it is in the US". the logic of: USA-managed entities > USA market only - is again - one of the most blatantly inept arguments in here.
That's like saying Tomac winning in Supercross has no direct correlation to sales of Yamaha's in idk, let's say France? When.. in reality... he is on Advertising over there, he is on Monster advertising over there, he rides for Alpinestars of whom actually hosts a profound presence throughout Europe & this one country shaped like a boot with a fairly storied tradition within Motorsport... That line of logic made perfectly good sense in 90's (& earlier) when you didn't really have the tools to measure these metrics, but still even then that was taking the easy excuse route. But, we do have these tools now - there are races where we have more eyes on the broadcast / stream in the South of France (Marseille to Monaco, let's say) than we do from the PNW? So, to say what you said, speaks more towards the complacent, one-dimensional track of thinking by decision-making Individuals in this Industry.
4. "They had 3 events added that hopefully will help grow the sport in the US."
*SERIOUS QUESTION - barring the addition of 2 races in fairly under-exposed markets, WHAT IS FELD / MXSPORTS GOING TO DO TO INTEGRATE WITHIN THE MARKETS (themselves)? What Press / Fan Engagement Activations are being established to ensure effective growth from these new markets competed in? Let's be honest here, there will be no new methods of actually trying to cater to the outside the industry individual. You're statement is empty because yea, at the face of it, it seems like a great move, but when you do the bare minimum you get the bare minimum.
They should be held to a certain standard. EVERYONE. They have the assets & the financial means at their immediate disposal to do these things, stop acting like it is some insurmountable task to accomplish this...
Why would it have to be another team manager or high up? Why not someone like, oh I don't know, Ricky Carmichael? David Bailey? Etc...
Where's Rupert at anyway - seems he may have been right...
The teams were part of the planing process and that is why they removed one MX national this year and will supposedly remove one SX round next year.
If we don’t send a team, we shouldn’t ever expect an MXdN race in the USA again. You don’t get to pick and choose.
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You mean win by any means necessary including legal challenges.
I hope thats true. We can do without the 12 California rounds.
HAHAHA - I see you Perth Yacht Club...
Don't you have a winged keel to design in Nederlands? hahaha I'm kidding, I'm Kidding!!
I have the utmost respect for Ben Lexcen & John Bertrand! Australia II & the Perth Yacht Club achieved quite genuinely the GREATEST achievement in sporting history off the Coast of Newport... I want the record to show, I would've been standing right with ya wearing the "F**K the New York Yacht Club" shirts haha
”it’s the mentality that they need to get prepared for SX and everyday day that theystart that preparation before a competitor is to their advantage”
Your quote…
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That same mentality is why they asked for there to be no more races that they were currently racing at the time including the MEC...I don't agree with that mentality if fact I wish there was a way to ban testing from October to Dec 1 so the riders could have a proper off season
about to pour one for Bob Hawke & Benny, while I listen Men at Work! hahaha
Not to detract from this greater conversation at hand, BUT - were you alive for it?? I missed it by a good decade haha All I know is from studying Dennis & John over the years (I got into SailGP at the inception & was completely enamored by sailing haha). I could not imagine what it was like! I'm so close to just making those shirts to wear around haha
132 Years... that is insane.. we (as a society) are losing our minds about Max (Verstappen) winning 10 GP's in a row. Imagine 132 YEARS! haha Australia II... LEGENDS haha
I was 11 years old. The whole family got up at 4am to watch the race!
Just a pity that Australia has never been able to win again.
That's sooo sick!! I could only imagine - the footage from around Perth looked insane! From the watch party at the Stadium to the Yacht Club itself, that's passion for sport at it's greatest example!
The Parade looked like it was from a different world! John Bertrand had a really cool quote during the Trophy ceremony when Dennis won it with SD I can't remember it verbatim, but it was something to the extent of, "it took everything to win - it took a moment to lose". He's seriously one of the Sportsmen I have the most respect for. From him coming over here as a double-agent when he was at MIT haha to bowing out with dignity after winning in '83. Only example I can think of someone doing that, in genuinely the exact same style, was when Nico retired the day after Abu Dhabi in 16.
They have a couple, I have a friend who lives there and he brokered the deal. We just got tired of staying at Van Der Valk all the time and wanted to cook our own food.
My wife loves the downtown area, I must admit it's pretty awesome. I was there two weeks ago and the weather was better than California.
This is how it is when you put old retired riders and mechanics in charge of marketing and corporate direction.
Most successful companies have educated business people running things, but the dirt bike industry thinks it's best to put unqualified guys in charge of business who didn't even finish high school , and they advance to the higher positions because they quite frankly can't get a good job outside the motorcycle industry anyway.
Examples? Keith Mc Carty at Yamaha, Mike Fisher at Kawi, the guys at Honda who let McGrath go over riding a watercraft, the entire Suzuki management team, Steve Whitelock(the biggest turd to ever run AMA pro Racing), I could go on...
Only KTM seems to have their shit together enough to have smart business guys running the marketing side of things...
Old man Roger needs to go. Has he made any announcements as to WTF is going on with the team? Ricky or James or hell Travis would really bring some juice back to the team. Roger sitting at the helm is like some of the dinosaurs sitting in government in this country.
Spent the day driving back home from Missouri. Do we have a team or not ?
The AMA announces the team. Roger is the Team Mgr.
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What an idiotic comparison. The disrespect shown to DeCoster is unbelievable. There is a reason he is held in such high regard in the industry.
The team manager is asleep at the wheel
Everyone's time passes.
Such regard that he cannot field a team
For the 3rd time what if they are not sending a team. Hmmm
I remember calling into pulp a few years ago saying roger needs to go. Give literally anyone else a shot Mitch, Will Hahn anyone. This is insane.
Pretty sure I saw that Matthes tweeted 70-30 we don’t send a team
Edit: spelling.
MXoN is an FIM sanctioned event, the AMA is an affiliated member of the FIM.
The AMA should mandated that any teams and riders entering AMA Pro Supercross and AMA Pro Motocross, represent the AMA at the MXoN if selected.
A few years back Eli didn’t want to go and he got pilloried here if my memory is correct.
One of our states has won...
What reason is that, he won world championships decades ago? How about all the guys like Hannah who beat him decades ago and moved on to other things. A lot of things I was good at 40 years ago I have moved on from and don't even care about. Good grief, I respect his championships but that has nothing to do with Jett Lawrence, Haiden Deegan motocross. Roger is Joel Robert, Sylvian Geboers Motocross. Hell, he can't even relate to Ryan Dungey motocross. Like I said before, how many 50+ people can relate to their 20 something coworkers? And Roger is an employee of most the other team's competitor. Duh!
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