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Comprehension here is lowering, re-read my post. Continue to ignore government involvement and everything will be gone. Then ask yourself, why did Yamaha make the 400 in the first place?
I would love to hear these reasons.
So, you are admitting that it makes no difference whether it is a 2 or 4-stroke when it comes to government regulation. Congratulations, you finally get it.
Second, did you read the article? What was brought up as most of the subject? Emissions.
This is the disguise that the Agencies are using. It has nothing to do with emissions in my opinion. Any basic understanding of a combustion engine shows, a two stroke is a more efficient, lighter weight motor. Would I be happy with lower priced better designed toys? You bet! Are you so blind to think that I want to see my favorite past time go away? Pull your head out. You illustrate how dumb you are by trying to bring your disdain of all that oppose your ideas to a debate of facts.
Moreover am I admitting this? I have been trying to explain it to you morons since 2004. It has NOTHING to do with what is better for the people, rather what the EPA deems appropriate to them.
Heavens knows this isnt what is correct. Look at the Stupid Toyota Prius.
Filled with "D" batteries. What kind of mitigation is going to be needed to clean those heaps up after 10 years?
No, someone got it in their head in the Government that Motorcycles are bad. They are attacking them anyway they can. I don't back the AMA or the FIM. I back technology and science. I want to see a V-Twin two stroke that runs off a centrifugal clutch and weighs 200 lbs. Secondly I would love to see electric technology rise up to the level of what a modern dirt bike is capable of. I am happy to see that there is still effort out there, but some how, some way the writing is on the wall. 2012 new emissions rules are coming down. Just like the lead law. it Can be combated now, but if we wait until 2012 it will be to late.
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My 250 is a blast, no doubt. The 450 is heavy, also. But the advantages outweigh the weight. I will say for trail riding the torturous rocks of Tomahawk, the 450 is a beast.
There have been some connected people who have posted here in the past that Yamahas introduction of the 400 had nothing to do with emissions. That is the proverbial ball that got rolling, and killed the 2-stroke. Not CARB. Not the EPA. We, the consumer, did it, when we found that we could race something double the displacement of everything else in the class, and shift less, and were told that they would be cheaper to maintain.
Don't try to turn this into something it isn't. The EPA doesn't care whether you're riding a 2 or a 4.
My biggest issue on the 250 was late moto fade). Budds is a good example- you have to be wide open on the 250, dance on the shifter and hit everything perfectly to clear those big tables. Plus, here on the east coast it's always muddy- and I think the 450 will be better in mud.
We'll see. I'll be writing about it.
We can agree on that.
MotoEast says that the advantages overshadow the weight. For him, maybe. He's probably a more talented rider than me. My riding style has always put a premium on handling, and especially cornering ability over hp's. I'm one of the guys that believe that motocross is won in the corners. Or maybe I told myself that, because it was the only place on the track where I excelled.
If I climb on a different bike, (one with more power) my laptimes don't improve. I've got enough skill to keep a 2-stroke on the pipe, and I can only make use of a limited number of hp's before it all goes to Hell in a handbasket.
The last 4-stroke I rode was a YZ250f, last Fall on a very sandy track. No matter how hard I tried, the entrance to every turn was an exercise in flailing to keep the bike properly balanced (it felt like there was a large angry badger duct-taped to the crossbar) and hit my intended line. It was a real struggle for me, and the bike didn't seem to be any sort of advantage anywhere else on the track (However, I have ridden one on hard flat turns before, and was amazed at how well it stuck).
The EPA has never and will never make emission regulations that apply to closed-course competition models like MXers.
Lots of Snowmobiles and Boats riding around too.
Besides, I'm still laughin' at those that think the FIM std's won't be met.
With P.F.I. and Computer controlled engine maps? Pullllease.
It nails to the floor every one of the idiotic arguments AGAINST two-strokes that have been foisted on here for the last few years. But judging by some of the replies in this thread ... the bovine herd is either too lazy to read through it or is having trouble comprehending it all.
The clock on the disastrous 'four-stroke era' is ticking.
Pit Row
The 2 Stroke Revolution is for REAL.
Worry not, o partakers of the Ratio-Rite habit, your smoking is not in jeopardy -
It's the over-priced 4 stroke crowd with their Rolls-Royces and their
two-thousand $ dollar rebuilds that are shaking in their cam lobes.
Rejoice, o yee lovers of gunk about your silencers - there will be the correct noise
and there will be silky smoke, so yee shall have no fear.
As we speak, partisans are in the country, raising fork and sickle ....
Peasants are banding together, burning branches and raising cane.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8ScQoSuEYo
The argument is now over
Get your selfs a life and go buy a two stroke.
I was just stating a FACT
and I own 18 two strokes at the moment.
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