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Not sure if this has been mentioned. But heard he wasn't racing anymore nationals this year?
Roczen out for Unadilla
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Total bummer, if true
Was he ever in for Unadilla? Would be cool to see him out there but not surprising to me.
Yeah, he was planning on running Unadilla and Budds but recently it has come out that he will no longer be racing any more motocross this summer. I wonder if there is an injury at play...
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That sucks, where’s the PR?
I was definitely looking forward to seeing him line up at Unadilla and Budds, this sucks. Any news on the injury or illness front ML?
Was looking forward to seeing Roczen at Unadilla again more than anything else after the break.
Damn I would've liked to see him out there. He always seems to bring his A-game at that track.
Well his wife looks to be very pregnant so that could be a reason.
What is Ken's son's name? Someone needs to ask him if he wants to go to Unadilla.
That sux the more fast guys on the track the better the racing….
Hmmm.
Is Larry Brooks out at HEP?
No? He’s still at HEP. I just checked.
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This is a weird year to be a MX fan. Who's in who's out, who's in part time.... The "Supermotocross" series is a series where somehow a guy can only race a few nationals but still be in it for the title ? Or some title I guess. There will still be an outdoor champ correct ? Or is that just part of a bigger series now ? Which one's more important ? How can guys miss races but still be "In it" somehow ? Is so and so racing this weekend ? is so and so not racing this weekend ? Barcia's in, Barcia's out, Herlings is in, Herlings is out, but if he does race he's going to smoke everyone, ....if he races (Like anyone gives a shit about 1 race) I'm still not clear about how this "New" series all works. Between the depleted field, the intersecting series/titles where guys can seemingly pick and choose which outdoor races not to do if they don't want to but still be in the hunt for....something ? Add in the 2 week break and my enthusiasm for MX has dwindled compared to previous years. Jett is amazing I wish there were more competition for him right now, but there isn't so that adds to the "meh..... if I miss the race this weekend no big deal" feeling I have. Hoping Unadilla is a barn burner and my enthusiasm is restored because if I'm being honest it's getting too easy to not give a shit if I miss any races, where normally I can't wait and make sure every race is recorded so I can watch it 2 or 3 times. Maybe the STUPID long SX series added to my blaaahh attitude too. Anyway sorry to be Debbie Downer hope Unadilla is all time !
I think youre over thinking this whole thing
There will still be an outdoor champ correct? - Yes, and unless something crazy happens, it will be Jett
Which one's more important? - fair question, based on payout, looks like riders would care most about smx
How can guys miss races but still be "In it" somehow? It's a championship with 33 races, in what's considered a dangerous sport, you cant expect everyone to make all 33 races.
SX only teams/contracts have existed for awhile, throw in WSX and you should expect even less participation in MX. The good news is SMX helps entice more riders to show up for MX, even if it is just some rounds.
Curse you moto gods Selfishly the fans were hoping to see Kenny rip up Unadilla but it isn't to be. Back to the Chase vs Jett fun
Pit Row
Overthinking is my mo can’t help it
Based on your last sentence and from what I’ve read, a guy only needs “X” amount of outdoor points to qualify for the final “SMX” rounds where the title is decided ? It’s not combined points all year, there’s a set number qualifying points needed to be in the final rounds where the “SMX” title will be decided ? It’s not total SX and MX points added together and that’s the champ. Unless I understand it wrong (which is entirely possible and more than likely probable) Lol
There's no official set amount of points needed.
Its combined points for both series that get you into SMX, the top 20 in combined points are automatically in the SMX, and 21-30 will have to go through an LCQ at each round of the SMX. The points are reset at the start of the SMX playoffs.
Someone like Roczen has the motivation to do some outdoor rounds because your qualifying position determines the point you receive before round 1. Meaning, Chase will likely be the top-seeded rider, he will start SMX with a 26-points.
Right now Roczen is in 8th in the standings which means he will start SMX with 15 points. He is likely to continue dropping positions and losing more points before the "playoffs" even begin.
Another good example is Christian Craig, he has missed a ton of races, but up until Washougal, he was still top 20. Josh Hill showed up for one outdoor (Washougal), and got enough points to bump Christian out of the top 20, now Craig will have to race the LCQs.
I think you are correct. The points reset and the guy that has the most points at the time of the reset starts off with a small advantage. and so on down to the last guy making it in by points. Riders who get in via LCQ start off with 0 points i believe. But mathematically anybody that qualifies could still win the SMX title no matter where they are in the overall SX/MX points before the reset.
Its not super complicated, after its all over I'm sure people will be clear on things for the next season.
Nevermind this post , refer to the one above for better details.
My bad I’ll delete my question. Could’ve swore I heard on a podcast he was out
Anything official if he’s actually in or out for Unadilla? Or all just hearsay at this point?
I think this year is unique in that there’s been so many injuries for top guys that someone like Webb or Roczen can race only half the races and still be in a good running for the SMX playoffs. That may not be true in a year where more top guys are racing all or most of the rounds
It'll be cool to see some trends as this develops, the lowest amount of races someone has done and still qualified, highest combined points/lowest combined points.
I don't think the injuries this year have any impact other than the qualifying order, I believe that regardless of the year or injuries, a top 5-10 guy in one series can skip the other series and be okay. There isn't enough parody between MX and SX for either series to have a major impact. The top guys indoors are the top guys outdoors, so no one gets pushed out of the ranking, they just get shuffled.
If Anderson, Tomac, and Barcia were racing the full outdoors, they would just have a bigger gap on Kenny or move in front of him
My point is that if 4 of the top 8 racers race most or all of the SX and MX season, those guys have a big advantage of the other 4 only race SX
Look at it this way - there’s a bunch of riders who have done at least a few outdoor rounds that otherwise would have disappeared after SX and we wouldn’t see them again until January. Ken was never going to ride the whole series. Barcia is coming back from injury so I’d naturally expect some uncertainty about when he returns.
Combined points for both SX and MX determine the start ranking for SMX, with pints awarded to the top 20 as if they’d won an SX main or MX moto. There’s actually a slight advantage to racing the outdoors as it has 22 point paying races (motos) vs 17 for SX.
As far as I know the SMX championship isn’t an official title. It’s really just a way to earn more cash.
It's an official title
No answer?
Anybody knows why he changed his mind?
That goes in the AMA record books?
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