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After Lammies last Hangtown race, they removed that rule. He was pretty far off the pace (and also riding a 125, which didn’t help his lap times).
I think he tried a few times and to hold onto the #3 and it was a struggle. Don’t remember what years, but it was at Hangtown and didn’t go well.
Maybe so, time does have a way of being cruel.
Keefer tried a few times in the past few years - I want to say at least twice and maybe 3 times, but was off the pace and didn’t make it.
it’s harder then most think to make the show.
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That is true, but what level has he been racing compared to Brown?
What happened in the plus 50 class. I was watching at work and seemed Emig caught him really quick.
Yep, I was born in 1962 and the last year of the Boomers is 1964, so I got in with two years to spare.
Egged a front wheel and babied it in for 2nd..
Brown could qualify at the next national.
That rule doesn't exist. At least anymore.
The brain is not working so well today. Was it Mike brown that was riding around the back of the pack at the MGM US Open doing heel clickers? Like a million years ago?
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Keefer holeshot, Brown caught and passed him pretty easily on the first lap. Keefer tried to keep pace but dumped it in a corner. Emig got a bad start and worked his way up and passed Keefer late in the race. Pretty sure Brown was on the podium with bike on the stand and helmet off before Emig crossed in second.
Brown could qualify, he’d be deep but he could make the top 40. He’d finish better than he’d qualify b/c he’s an animal and can push the whole 30 + 2.
Brownie can for sure put in a lap time faster than some of the guys that qualify on a regular basis. And if he’s serious (he is, he’s brought it up a few times to me) he will put in some real work to do it. He was contemplating not even racing LL this year because he hasn’t ridden hardly at all this year. But he’s not showing up to a National unprepared. If he shows, he makes it.
Me, too brother. Same age.
That was plus 40.
Doesn’t sound like Mike brown to be doing heel clickers!
good for Mike, he is the ultimate vet class warrior. Pulling for him to qualify.
He may have to provide additional medical information to the AMA, including an echocardiogram to prove his cardiovascular system is fit enough to race at the pro level. or at least that is what the AMA used to require for AMA Pro Racing motocross license applicants over 50.
The 21-40th natl riders really ain,t that fast. They get smoked by locals at the pro ams, going 7,4. Mike would qualify. Brown is a 125 specialist he should do it on a 125. It’s rare that a 50+ person hangs onto there athletic ability. I,m 56 3/4 born with a sprinters body which is destroyed from trucking. If I could make any money out here or if Mx paid anything. I would b racing pro ams.
Why would the guy disadvantage himself so badly on a 125, specialist or not given the display the 450's put on over the 250's at the last race?
I truly don't get you 2 stroke guys any more. The myth that a good rider can win on a 2 stroke is long past its use-by date by now surely?
I like 2 strokes, I used to road race in our 250 Production series on NSR's, RGV's and Aprilias. But a racer is a racer, not someone who will jeopardise results simply to follow a dream with a romanticised bike type.
and if ANYONE is a racer, its Mike Brown.
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Bad mofo and a nice guy on top of that
Wonder if it would be better for him at southwick to try and qualify. Put in a fast lap with B/C and hope the track slows down for A.
My bad. Didn’t realize 50+ raced today and Emig got the win. Brown with an egged wheel explains it as I said above it’s clearly visible Brown has his classes covered by quite some time based on the race I watched earlier today.
52 is the next 34 with the right "training program+extra pint of blood". He's only gotta put down one blistering lap to make the field. "I ain't as good once was. But I'm as good once, as I ever was" I was wondering what Terry Fowler was up to awhile back and came across this gem of interview. I don't remember him being this funny. Go to the 9:45 mark about him qualifying for the Glen Helen National at age 40. It's pretty funny. https://racerxonline.com/2021/02/10/fly-racing-racer-x-podcast-terry-fo…
I seem to recall that there used to be an upper age limit of 50 on Pro-class entries. That seems to be gone now (as a nod to anti-ageism, I guess), and the AMA has quite a list of eligibility qualifications for someone to enter a National. The list closes at 90 names, and to get there they pick based on these standards:
"e. Entries will be accepted in the following order until the class is full:
i. After the first event has been completed, riders earning championship points in 2023 in either the 450 or 250 class.
ii. Riders finishing the 2022 Motocross season in the top 45 of either the 450 or 250 Championship.
iii. Riders earning any points during the 2022 Motocross season in either the 450 or 250 class.
iv. Former National Motocross or FIM World Motocross Champions in the past 10 years.
v. Foreign riders earning at least one point in an FIM-affiliated professional motocross series in the current or previous year.
vi. Riders finishing in the Top 10 in a Pro Sport class at the AMA Amateur National Motocross Championship in 2023.
vii. For all other riders, the date on which the entry is received (via online) will determine the order of acceptance.
viii. AMA Pro Racing reserves the right in its sole discretion to accept entries of riders who do not meet the above criteria."
I guess Mike will look at e(vi) as I presume his National Champ status described in e(iv) has expired. On the other hand, the AMA gives itself full latitude to let anyone in via e(viii), so you never know. Assuming he uses the Pro-Sport Amateur qualifier next year, these standards would mean his entry is accepted, but he would still have to qualify via timing or the consolation race, and there are only 30 spots left as the top 10 in the current series are guaranteed a spot, I believe.
On the other hand, Mike did very well in the Canadian Nat'ls a short few years ago, so he's already put the icing on the cake in terms of old-guy career success.
It's too bad the AMA has homologation and age limits on bike eligibility, as it would be pretty cool to see Mike qualify on the Husky he rode at Farleigh Castle:
Down retired in 05 @36 and podiumed in 09 at age 40. His last race was Southwick 2013 at age 44 and he scored 2 pts
Dowd was 44 when he podiumed Southwick in 2009. He last scored 2 points by finishing 19th in the second moto at Southwick in 2013 at age 47.
I reckon if you stepped forward in time a little, say to the DocWob built steelie YZ250 from Foxhill last year, he would absolutely put it into a present day National.
On that note, I seriously can't wait for VMXdN Foxhill again this year... I'll say it again, and everyone here already knows it, Brownie is a beast, guy rides like he's 28 or something. Super experienced but still with the killer instinct and supreme fitness.
Brownie will still need to ride/train out of his comfort zone to get ready for a Nat. At 50+, he will have to manage his risk in that speed block of training and that’s where it’s easy to pick up an injury.
It’ll be a substantial mental effort to pull it off and if anyone is capable, it’s Brown.
Good luck, man!
The 21-40th National riders aren't that fast huh? I know it's your thing to comment nonsensical shit but this is hall of fame.
So the qualifying on a 125 thing is was puzzled you and not his first assertion that past 20th place they really aren't fast?
I imagine it would take alot of prep for him to qualify. It would be a wasted effort this year. Plus he would have to dispense with LL.
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