Deegan Champ???

7/22/2023 10:53pm

Can we keep the Andrew Tate discussion out of the moto-related section? Bad enough to we have to hear about that clown other places I sure don’t want to have to read about him on Vital

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Absolutely insane to publicly admit you’ve been listening to someone who is being held on house arrest for human trafficking and has been accused of rape...

Absolutely insane to publicly admit you’ve been listening to someone who is being held on house arrest for human trafficking and has been accused of rape. Horrible horrible look. 

In this country, the constitution states that people are to be considered innocent until proven guilty.

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Can we keep the Andrew Tate discussion out of the moto-related section? Bad enough to we have to hear about that clown other places I sure...

Can we keep the Andrew Tate discussion out of the moto-related section? Bad enough to we have to hear about that clown other places I sure don’t want to have to read about him on Vital

I think people would be more than happy to, but at the same time it’s hard to leave out something like this when the kid just attracted the attention of the world with a real statement ride. 
 

I’ve not been a critic of his but I did find myself wondering if he was going to be good or great a few times, thought it might take him a year or two to learn the ropes. Based on yesterday and especially that second moto charge I was wrong and the kid has something seriously next level about him. But, like his sister who’s also got herself in trouble with her mouth a couple times he still has a bit to learn post-race. Keep the edge, and the passion, just dial back on name dropping people facing long lists of serious criminal charges (and who are wanted in other countries beyond just Romania). 

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Imagine getting upset at an American rider/kid who just went 1-1 because he listens to someone controversial. Probably the same people who hated the purple rims...

Imagine getting upset at an American rider/kid who just went 1-1 because he listens to someone controversial. Probably the same people who hated the purple rims on the Yamaha's today. He'll send it for USA that's for sure!

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There is a difference between controversial and criminal.    You wouldn’t say, I’ve been listening to Jeffery Epstein, on the podium right? This guy is is...

There is a difference between controversial and criminal. 
 

You wouldn’t say, I’ve been listening to Jeffery Epstein, on the podium right? This guy is is charged with the same crimes, rape and human trafficking. There are videos of him beating a woman. He is also a savior to thousands of misguided young men who need to inflate their fragile egos. So he is in fact worse than Epstein as far as influence and social effect. 
 

im not mad at Deegan, I’m just bummed that that’s what the kids are into. He’s an uneducated kid who I assume was homeschooled by his dad, another uneducated kid. I could be wrong, maybe Brian didn’t homeschool him, or maybe Brian is even educated. He is really amazing at riding his toy. His last few laps were Stew-esque dare I say. But at the end of the day there are things bigger than that.

 

I hope he can find better role models. 

I bet you think men can have periods....they charged him with NO evidence and he is as bad as epstein? the video was a role play the girl asked him and liked it... and if you watch the longer video not the one CNN will show it shows them setting it up and him even hitting himself to make sure it wouldnt hurt her...and they are still friends...so please go be woke somewhere else

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People in this thread trying to explain why a human trafficker and rapist is actually a good role model for kids.  

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Perhaps there’s a payout behind name dropping two social media celebs?  The Deegans are masters at monetizing their web presence. 
 

Tate was controversial prior to his Romanian mishap. Mentioning someone like that on the podium after your first 1-1 wasn’t good head work, and Star management likely wasn’t on board (there’s no upside for them).  The fact that Haiden threw Tate and Goggins out there signals either 1) just a young kid hyped in the moment or 2) Haiden and the Deegan’s feel they are bigger than the team.  Or perhaps both options are accurate. 

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Absolutely insane to publicly admit you’ve been listening to someone who is being held on house arrest for human trafficking and has been accused of rape...

Absolutely insane to publicly admit you’ve been listening to someone who is being held on house arrest for human trafficking and has been accused of rape. Horrible horrible look. 

Radical wrote:

In this country, the constitution states that people are to be considered innocent until proven guilty.

lol people down voted this....speaks volumes

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Absolutely insane to publicly admit you’ve been listening to someone who is being held on house arrest for human trafficking and has been accused of rape...

Absolutely insane to publicly admit you’ve been listening to someone who is being held on house arrest for human trafficking and has been accused of rape. Horrible horrible look. 

Radical wrote:

In this country, the constitution states that people are to be considered innocent until proven guilty.

I bet you don’t hold that same standard to the other side

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7/23/2023 9:35am Edited Date/Time 7/23/2023 9:35am
Absolutely insane to publicly admit you’ve been listening to someone who is being held on house arrest for human trafficking and has been accused of rape...

Absolutely insane to publicly admit you’ve been listening to someone who is being held on house arrest for human trafficking and has been accused of rape. Horrible horrible look. 

Radical wrote:

In this country, the constitution states that people are to be considered innocent until proven guilty.

ZinAZ wrote:

lol people down voted this....speaks volumes

Lol, people paying attention to up and down votes, speaks volumes. Bunch of middle schoolers worried about if people like them. 

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A thread about Deegan performing well in his rookie season turning into a full-blown discussion over Andrew Tate is exactly why people in this country don't get along. 

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7/23/2023 9:59am
Absolutely insane to publicly admit you’ve been listening to someone who is being held on house arrest for human trafficking and has been accused of rape...

Absolutely insane to publicly admit you’ve been listening to someone who is being held on house arrest for human trafficking and has been accused of rape. Horrible horrible look. 

Radical wrote:

In this country, the constitution states that people are to be considered innocent until proven guilty.

He’s getting pegged in a Romanian prison

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Absolutely insane to publicly admit you’ve been listening to someone who is being held on house arrest for human trafficking and has been accused of rape...

Absolutely insane to publicly admit you’ve been listening to someone who is being held on house arrest for human trafficking and has been accused of rape. Horrible horrible look. 

Radical wrote:

In this country, the constitution states that people are to be considered innocent until proven guilty.

soggy wrote:

I bet you don’t hold that same standard to the other side

I do actually.

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I'm not gonna shun the kid because he's just a teenager at the end of the day but that doesn't mean I can't say calling out...

Laughing

I'm not gonna shun the kid because he's just a teenager at the end of the day but that doesn't mean I can't say calling out Andrew Tate on the podium is cringey. He's a teenager so it's whatever but what's more pathetic is the 40+ year-olds on this website going "no but actually Andrew Tate is the top G". 

mx4 wrote:

Well how old are you?

aeffertz wrote:

Old enough to see through the “Top G’s” bullshit. 

List of Top Gs Bullsh*t:

1: strong as hell. This dude is a kickboxer who is a straight beast. Dedicated to being strong and healthy.

2: millionaire 

3: believes in American values that built America

……I would love to see pictures of you guys who hate on Tate. Send me a pic of your abs and Tris. Then a pic of your bank account. Send me your resume if your helping others. But you can’t and you won’t. You will just down vote you tears away😭😭 it’s like Trump. You don’t even know why you don’t like him. He is just better than you and you can’t accept it. Babies

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Radical wrote:

In this country, the constitution states that people are to be considered innocent until proven guilty.

ZinAZ wrote:

lol people down voted this....speaks volumes

1911 wrote:

Lol, people paying attention to up and down votes, speaks volumes. Bunch of middle schoolers worried about if people like them. 

They are literally right in front of you🫡

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People in this thread trying to explain why a human trafficker and rapist is actually a good role model for kids.  

People in this thread trying to explain why a human trafficker and rapist is actually a good role model for kids.  

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I'm indifferent to Tate but I'll point out, again, he's not been convicted. 

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8500rpm wrote:
Not taking anything away from Deegan, he is absolutely great but those Star Yamahas give him a great advantage at the start. The poor Honda 250...

Not taking anything away from Deegan, he is absolutely great but those Star Yamahas give him a great advantage at the start. The poor Honda 250 usually needs to be ridden up from 10th.

I have no idea what I'm talking about but maybe in the 450 class absolute power is not as important as they all have enough. 

Cannot be an coincidence that Star 250s usually are among the first if not first. 

Great ride of Deegan anyway! 

 

Hunter was right behind Deegan in the second moto yesterday and had the same opportunity to win the moto that Deegan had. 

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Everyone winging about it needs to go listen to tate and goggins. And listen to their actual full content not the clips the media shows. Other than a few questionable jokes and statements tate is a great influence on young men, Clearly, as Deegan just smoked a whole bunch grown ass men by being the fittest in the field. 

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8500rpm wrote:
Not taking anything away from Deegan, he is absolutely great but those Star Yamahas give him a great advantage at the start. The poor Honda 250...

Not taking anything away from Deegan, he is absolutely great but those Star Yamahas give him a great advantage at the start. The poor Honda 250 usually needs to be ridden up from 10th.

I have no idea what I'm talking about but maybe in the 450 class absolute power is not as important as they all have enough. 

Cannot be an coincidence that Star 250s usually are among the first if not first. 

Great ride of Deegan anyway! 

 

Hunter was right behind Deegan in the second moto yesterday and had the same opportunity to win the moto that Deegan had. 

I love that about mx, machine and body. It would be shit if everyone was on the same bike. Honda rnd need to get to work 

edit: honda have won every 250 title for the last 2 years with jett, so blaming the bike is just silly 

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ktmdan wrote:
It was a good ride, but I lost any kind of respect for the kid when he gave a shoutout to a charged rapist and human...

It was a good ride, but I lost any kind of respect for the kid when he gave a shoutout to a charged rapist and human trafficker, self-proclaimed rapist and woman beater on the podium. And zero respect for Brian because he surely knows what the kid is in to. 

You're so ignorant to who Tate is...why comment when you don't know shit??

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the kid made a bit of a GAFF................but he is just a KID?

he'll eventually regret mentioning tate but he's allowed to make mistakes on the track and off.........as we all are...

i get more annoyed by his parents constantly stepping into his limelight at the track but its his rookie season so (we've all been there  with our kids)..

next year Brain and co... need to take a step back and be a little more annom.........imho

 

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8500rpm wrote:
Not taking anything away from Deegan, he is absolutely great but those Star Yamahas give him a great advantage at the start. The poor Honda 250...

Not taking anything away from Deegan, he is absolutely great but those Star Yamahas give him a great advantage at the start. The poor Honda 250 usually needs to be ridden up from 10th.

I have no idea what I'm talking about but maybe in the 450 class absolute power is not as important as they all have enough. 

Cannot be an coincidence that Star 250s usually are among the first if not first. 

Great ride of Deegan anyway! 

 

Hunter was right behind Deegan in the second moto yesterday and had the same opportunity to win the moto that Deegan had. 

WillGoody3 wrote:
I love that about mx, machine and body. It would be shit if everyone was on the same bike. Honda rnd need to get to work ...

I love that about mx, machine and body. It would be shit if everyone was on the same bike. Honda rnd need to get to work 

edit: honda have won every 250 title for the last 2 years with jett, so blaming the bike is just silly 

Exactly, nothing wrong with the bike.  

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Hunter was right behind Deegan in the second moto yesterday and had the same opportunity to win the moto that Deegan had. 

WillGoody3 wrote:
I love that about mx, machine and body. It would be shit if everyone was on the same bike. Honda rnd need to get to work ...

I love that about mx, machine and body. It would be shit if everyone was on the same bike. Honda rnd need to get to work 

edit: honda have won every 250 title for the last 2 years with jett, so blaming the bike is just silly 

mxb2 wrote:

Exactly, nothing wrong with the bike.  

Honda worked good for Jett in '21 and '22

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7/23/2023 7:19pm Edited Date/Time 7/23/2023 7:21pm

Housewives of OC drama shit. Nobody is going to care about this 2 weeks from now. 

Outside of that HD killed it, probably had the best ride of his life. He was in the zone and stomped everyone. It's amazing to witness when rides like that happen. 

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WillGoody3 wrote:
I love that about mx, machine and body. It would be shit if everyone was on the same bike. Honda rnd need to get to work ...

I love that about mx, machine and body. It would be shit if everyone was on the same bike. Honda rnd need to get to work 

edit: honda have won every 250 title for the last 2 years with jett, so blaming the bike is just silly 

mxb2 wrote:

Exactly, nothing wrong with the bike.  

Honda worked good for Jett in '21 and '22

Exactly

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Deegan rides like a young Cooper Webb during his Star 250 days

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Crooked wrote:
I bet you think men can have periods....they charged him with NO evidence and he is as bad as epstein? the video was a role play...

I bet you think men can have periods....they charged him with NO evidence and he is as bad as epstein? the video was a role play the girl asked him and liked it... and if you watch the longer video not the one CNN will show it shows them setting it up and him even hitting himself to make sure it wouldnt hurt her...and they are still friends...so please go be woke somewhere else

Based on what Tate, himself, has said about how he's run his cam business, he's a sex trafficker. Unless he's lying, of course.

And it's not just "woke" people that have called him out; Jordan Peterson recently called him "a pimp and the lowest form of life", and I'm pretty sure other mainstream conservatives have called him out as well.

That being said, I don't think everything Tate says is bad advice, and his message is less toxic than the redpill community he's kind of adjacent to.

I think the sad reality is that young men don't have a lot of good role models these days.

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Imagine getting upset at an American rider/kid who just went 1-1 because he listens to someone controversial. Probably the same people who hated the purple rims...

Imagine getting upset at an American rider/kid who just went 1-1 because he listens to someone controversial. Probably the same people who hated the purple rims on the Yamaha's today. He'll send it for USA that's for sure!

ktmdan wrote:
There is a difference between controversial and criminal.    You wouldn’t say, I’ve been listening to Jeffery Epstein, on the podium right? This guy is is...

There is a difference between controversial and criminal. 
 

You wouldn’t say, I’ve been listening to Jeffery Epstein, on the podium right? This guy is is charged with the same crimes, rape and human trafficking. There are videos of him beating a woman. He is also a savior to thousands of misguided young men who need to inflate their fragile egos. So he is in fact worse than Epstein as far as influence and social effect. 
 

im not mad at Deegan, I’m just bummed that that’s what the kids are into. He’s an uneducated kid who I assume was homeschooled by his dad, another uneducated kid. I could be wrong, maybe Brian didn’t homeschool him, or maybe Brian is even educated. He is really amazing at riding his toy. His last few laps were Stew-esque dare I say. But at the end of the day there are things bigger than that.

 

I hope he can find better role models. 

Crooked wrote:
I bet you think men can have periods....they charged him with NO evidence and he is as bad as epstein? the video was a role play...

I bet you think men can have periods....they charged him with NO evidence and he is as bad as epstein? the video was a role play the girl asked him and liked it... and if you watch the longer video not the one CNN will show it shows them setting it up and him even hitting himself to make sure it wouldnt hurt her...and they are still friends...so please go be woke somewhere else

It sucks realizing some people actually buy into Andrew Tate's bullshit. I don't give a shit about the politics or being woke, or whatever. But when I listen to Tate talk I know he's a piece a shit. Just good character judgment I guess. 

So yea, it kinda sucks hearing a 17 year old looking up to him. 

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ktmdan wrote:
There is a difference between controversial and criminal.    You wouldn’t say, I’ve been listening to Jeffery Epstein, on the podium right? This guy is is...

There is a difference between controversial and criminal. 
 

You wouldn’t say, I’ve been listening to Jeffery Epstein, on the podium right? This guy is is charged with the same crimes, rape and human trafficking. There are videos of him beating a woman. He is also a savior to thousands of misguided young men who need to inflate their fragile egos. So he is in fact worse than Epstein as far as influence and social effect. 
 

im not mad at Deegan, I’m just bummed that that’s what the kids are into. He’s an uneducated kid who I assume was homeschooled by his dad, another uneducated kid. I could be wrong, maybe Brian didn’t homeschool him, or maybe Brian is even educated. He is really amazing at riding his toy. His last few laps were Stew-esque dare I say. But at the end of the day there are things bigger than that.

 

I hope he can find better role models. 

Crooked wrote:
I bet you think men can have periods....they charged him with NO evidence and he is as bad as epstein? the video was a role play...

I bet you think men can have periods....they charged him with NO evidence and he is as bad as epstein? the video was a role play the girl asked him and liked it... and if you watch the longer video not the one CNN will show it shows them setting it up and him even hitting himself to make sure it wouldnt hurt her...and they are still friends...so please go be woke somewhere else

D.K.O.N. wrote:
It sucks realizing some people actually buy into Andrew Tate's bullshit. I don't give a shit about the politics or being woke, or whatever. But when...

It sucks realizing some people actually buy into Andrew Tate's bullshit. I don't give a shit about the politics or being woke, or whatever. But when I listen to Tate talk I know he's a piece a shit. Just good character judgment I guess. 

So yea, it kinda sucks hearing a 17 year old looking up to him. 

Let it go bro. Tate is living rent free in your heads. This is MX

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Crooked wrote:
I bet you think men can have periods....they charged him with NO evidence and he is as bad as epstein? the video was a role play...

I bet you think men can have periods....they charged him with NO evidence and he is as bad as epstein? the video was a role play the girl asked him and liked it... and if you watch the longer video not the one CNN will show it shows them setting it up and him even hitting himself to make sure it wouldnt hurt her...and they are still friends...so please go be woke somewhere else

D.K.O.N. wrote:
It sucks realizing some people actually buy into Andrew Tate's bullshit. I don't give a shit about the politics or being woke, or whatever. But when...

It sucks realizing some people actually buy into Andrew Tate's bullshit. I don't give a shit about the politics or being woke, or whatever. But when I listen to Tate talk I know he's a piece a shit. Just good character judgment I guess. 

So yea, it kinda sucks hearing a 17 year old looking up to him. 

mx4 wrote:

Let it go bro. Tate is living rent free in your heads. This is MX

Exactly. The kid worked his ass off and pulled the ride of his life, so big congrats. Let us focus more on that. This makes the season particularly exciting and based on his schedule where 95% of his time is for moto, I for sure bet that he doesn't follow the NY times or the main stream media. Little rookie mistake ok, but I still prefer him making a rookie mistake on the podium than crashing bad or fading. On the track he delivers and continues to improve.

Deegan

 

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WillGoody3 wrote:
I love that about mx, machine and body. It would be shit if everyone was on the same bike. Honda rnd need to get to work ...

I love that about mx, machine and body. It would be shit if everyone was on the same bike. Honda rnd need to get to work 

edit: honda have won every 250 title for the last 2 years with jett, so blaming the bike is just silly 

mxb2 wrote:

Exactly, nothing wrong with the bike.  

Honda worked good for Jett in '21 and '22

I might be wrong, not remembering correctly but what I can remember during Jetts 250 days he was not exactly the holeshot king, but rather the Star Yamahas was always up front during during the first few turns, either Cooper or someone else. Jett had to come from behind many times. 

Now who am I, silly arguing about this, but seems like the commentators agree that the Star bikes pull a bit harder than the rest, which is helpful at the start Wink

 

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