Won’t buy one, don’t want one, Chinese stuff getting better Kayo may not be junk

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7/14/2023 10:35am Edited Date/Time 7/14/2023 10:36am
mattyhamz2 wrote:

Ya'll ever paid attention to where the CRF-F, KLX and TTR lines come from?

Yes from Tawain which has been overtaken by China because we are bought & paid for by the Chicom and we are too weak as a supposed superpower to have helped Tawain. Look around. The Chinese government is basically on every continuant and is like a slow growing cancer that eventually consumes every country they basically invade without ever having to go to war. 

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7/14/2023 10:39am
mattyhamz2 wrote:

Ya'll ever paid attention to where the CRF-F, KLX and TTR lines come from?

BBA wrote:
Yes from Tawain which has been overtaken by China because we are bought & paid for by the Chicom and we are too weak as a...

Yes from Tawain which has been overtaken by China because we are bought & paid for by the Chicom and we are too weak as a supposed superpower to have helped Tawain. Look around. The Chinese government is basically on every continuant and is like a slow growing cancer that eventually consumes every country they basically invade without ever having to go to war. 

Last 2 TTR’s I bought said China. That was a 2018 TTR50 and a 2021 TTR110. 

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7/14/2023 10:44am
soggy wrote:

Everyone:  “why can’t we have a cheap way to get into moto”

china: “here you go”

Everyone: “fuck that stuff it’s cheap”

 

You can get a new 23’ GG MC250 for $6,499 OTD, there is no reason to buy this commie junk 

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7/14/2023 10:48am

Want a cheap entry bike, buy a Honda Crf50.

Sorry, that's made in China, damm things run forever!!!!

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7/14/2023 11:06am
soggy wrote:

Everyone:  “why can’t we have a cheap way to get into moto”

china: “here you go”

Everyone: “fuck that stuff it’s cheap”

 

You can get a new 23’ GG MC250 for $6,499 OTD, there is no reason to buy this commie junk 

Maybe in your neck of the woods but expensive ass Houston Texas Metro area not a chance.   I bet somewhere between 10 and 11k.  I guy would be lucky to find a used 2022 MC250 $6500 around here.  

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7/14/2023 11:25am

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7/14/2023 5:27pm

India is one to watch for. Seeing a lot of stuff from there including some KTM products. 

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7/15/2023 6:26am
soggy wrote:

Everyone:  “why can’t we have a cheap way to get into moto”

china: “here you go”

Everyone: “fuck that stuff it’s cheap”

 

You can get a new 23’ GG MC250 for $6,499 OTD, there is no reason to buy this commie junk 

Where?

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7/15/2023 7:29am Edited Date/Time 7/15/2023 7:39am
CSAR FE wrote:
It’s unfortunately impossible not to, but I do go out of my way not to buy Chinese made items whenever I can. If you knew how...

It’s unfortunately impossible not to, but I do go out of my way not to buy Chinese made items whenever I can. If you knew how truly bad the CCP is and their intentions towards us and the globe as a whole, you would do the same as well. I can assure you it’s much worse than the media lets off. 

What an ignorant, brainwashed opinion you have there. Have you ever been there? The US paranoia against China is ridiculous. Let me guess, fuck Russia also?

The hate towards places people's never been is beyond me.

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7/15/2023 7:47am
CSAR FE wrote:
It’s unfortunately impossible not to, but I do go out of my way not to buy Chinese made items whenever I can. If you knew how...

It’s unfortunately impossible not to, but I do go out of my way not to buy Chinese made items whenever I can. If you knew how truly bad the CCP is and their intentions towards us and the globe as a whole, you would do the same as well. I can assure you it’s much worse than the media lets off. 

FerCzD wrote:
What an ignorant, brainwashed opinion you have there. Have you ever been there? The US paranoia against China is ridiculous. Let me guess, fuck Russia also...

What an ignorant, brainwashed opinion you have there. Have you ever been there? The US paranoia against China is ridiculous. Let me guess, fuck Russia also?

The hate towards places people's never been is beyond me.

Yep, let’s just brush up on our Mandarin and be happy!

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7/15/2023 8:18am
CSAR FE wrote:

I bet my opinion still doesn’t change.

 

*sent by my iPhone 

soggy wrote:

So would you rather not have any of those things?

CSAR FE wrote:
I would rather my 2 year old not have to live her adult life in a world with China as the world superpower, because we’ve been...

I would rather my 2 year old not have to live her adult life in a world with China as the world superpower, because we’ve been addicted to their cheaply made garbage since 1972. But that’s just me.

 China will probably implode in a major way. Lots of info out there about the world population collapse and China is leading the way. They lack energy and most important, fertilizer. There is significant political friction after the covid lockdowns. Not looking good for them. Mexico is rapidly gaining manufacturing expertise and has cheap skilled labor. Hecho en mexico will be more common on tech, not just brooms and plastic crap etc. 

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7/15/2023 9:02am
BBA wrote:
Yes from Tawain which has been overtaken by China because we are bought & paid for by the Chicom and we are too weak as a...

Yes from Tawain which has been overtaken by China because we are bought & paid for by the Chicom and we are too weak as a supposed superpower to have helped Tawain. Look around. The Chinese government is basically on every continuant and is like a slow growing cancer that eventually consumes every country they basically invade without ever having to go to war. 

You can really see how good the American propaganda machine is at brainwashing their own citizens in this thread. Apparently China is the cancer that ruins countries through... diplomacy. Not the USA that does everything in their power to destroy any country that doesn't fold to their hegemonic power, whether it be through coups, sanctions (that they coerce the rest of the world to follow) or invasions where their soldiers use a Playstation controller to blow up a hospital in a developing country and then spend the rest of their time taking pot shots at children and are hailed as heroes when they come back home.

By the way, it's Taiwan, not Tawain, and almost every country on earth (including the USA) recognises it as a part of China, not a sovereign nation. 

Jesus Christ it is incredible how easy you people believe this ridiculous propaganda. The USA has China encircled with military bases and is constantly provoking it, which of course makes China an aggressor according to you. The only way China is an aggressor is by developing their own economy. China doesn't have a history of invading other nations on the other side of the planet, the reasons they are ramping up their military are purely defensive. 

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7/15/2023 9:06am
CSAR FE wrote:
It’s unfortunately impossible not to, but I do go out of my way not to buy Chinese made items whenever I can. If you knew how...

It’s unfortunately impossible not to, but I do go out of my way not to buy Chinese made items whenever I can. If you knew how truly bad the CCP is and their intentions towards us and the globe as a whole, you would do the same as well. I can assure you it’s much worse than the media lets off. 

FerCzD wrote:
What an ignorant, brainwashed opinion you have there. Have you ever been there? The US paranoia against China is ridiculous. Let me guess, fuck Russia also...

What an ignorant, brainwashed opinion you have there. Have you ever been there? The US paranoia against China is ridiculous. Let me guess, fuck Russia also?

The hate towards places people's never been is beyond me.

Chinese companies are constantly stealing the designs from the products  other companies have them make. Or Steal in other ways. And the government helps them. Top Gear had a review of a knock off BMW SUV made in China that looked identical other than badging . BMW tried to sue and the courts in China said the SUV looked nothing like the BMW and sided with the Chinese company.

Look at all of the Scott,Fox Astars,Thor, Fly, 100%, etc. that You can buy from china that are really good knock offs. Or are they the real things , just being sold by the chinese factory who makes the legit stuff for those brands?? I'm not going to post links , but its not very hard to find. A customer of mine got some Fox stuff and compared it to the legit fox that was the same line/color/etc. and it looked identical.  

 As far as Russia goes, the leaders and what they are doing in the Ukraine seem pretty bad. But the people themselves and business' do not seem as bad. China though, You have all the factories and government openly stealing IP . The drones , 360 cameras are all amazing. But I do wonder if they have more inmind than just giving people the ability to make cool videos.

The chinese made stuff has gotten much much better than it used to. They can make stuff as good as anybody these days. If only they would just make their own designs when they do their own brands. And not rob the companies who use them to make their stuff. Even if its not the same companies that are making the knock offs as the real stuff.  

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7/15/2023 9:55am Edited Date/Time 7/15/2023 9:56am
Nothing to worry about, they're our friends. Should be interesting when BRICS release their gold backed currency next month. 

 

 

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7/15/2023 10:39am

Starting to look like a non moto or dumbgeon thread .... one and the same lately .

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7/15/2023 3:57pm
BBA wrote:
Yes from Tawain which has been overtaken by China because we are bought & paid for by the Chicom and we are too weak as a...

Yes from Tawain which has been overtaken by China because we are bought & paid for by the Chicom and we are too weak as a supposed superpower to have helped Tawain. Look around. The Chinese government is basically on every continuant and is like a slow growing cancer that eventually consumes every country they basically invade without ever having to go to war. 

Juck wrote:
You can really see how good the American propaganda machine is at brainwashing their own citizens in this thread. Apparently China is the cancer that ruins...

You can really see how good the American propaganda machine is at brainwashing their own citizens in this thread. Apparently China is the cancer that ruins countries through... diplomacy. Not the USA that does everything in their power to destroy any country that doesn't fold to their hegemonic power, whether it be through coups, sanctions (that they coerce the rest of the world to follow) or invasions where their soldiers use a Playstation controller to blow up a hospital in a developing country and then spend the rest of their time taking pot shots at children and are hailed as heroes when they come back home.

By the way, it's Taiwan, not Tawain, and almost every country on earth (including the USA) recognises it as a part of China, not a sovereign nation. 

Jesus Christ it is incredible how easy you people believe this ridiculous propaganda. The USA has China encircled with military bases and is constantly provoking it, which of course makes China an aggressor according to you. The only way China is an aggressor is by developing their own economy. China doesn't have a history of invading other nations on the other side of the planet, the reasons they are ramping up their military are purely defensive. 

Then why is your own country going through the largest military buildup in decades? 

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7/16/2023 12:10am
BBA wrote:
Yes from Tawain which has been overtaken by China because we are bought & paid for by the Chicom and we are too weak as a...

Yes from Tawain which has been overtaken by China because we are bought & paid for by the Chicom and we are too weak as a supposed superpower to have helped Tawain. Look around. The Chinese government is basically on every continuant and is like a slow growing cancer that eventually consumes every country they basically invade without ever having to go to war. 

Juck wrote:
You can really see how good the American propaganda machine is at brainwashing their own citizens in this thread. Apparently China is the cancer that ruins...

You can really see how good the American propaganda machine is at brainwashing their own citizens in this thread. Apparently China is the cancer that ruins countries through... diplomacy. Not the USA that does everything in their power to destroy any country that doesn't fold to their hegemonic power, whether it be through coups, sanctions (that they coerce the rest of the world to follow) or invasions where their soldiers use a Playstation controller to blow up a hospital in a developing country and then spend the rest of their time taking pot shots at children and are hailed as heroes when they come back home.

By the way, it's Taiwan, not Tawain, and almost every country on earth (including the USA) recognises it as a part of China, not a sovereign nation. 

Jesus Christ it is incredible how easy you people believe this ridiculous propaganda. The USA has China encircled with military bases and is constantly provoking it, which of course makes China an aggressor according to you. The only way China is an aggressor is by developing their own economy. China doesn't have a history of invading other nations on the other side of the planet, the reasons they are ramping up their military are purely defensive. 

CSAR FE wrote:

Then why is your own country going through the largest military buildup in decades? 

Because it was handled by our previous right wing government who didn't notify any other parties right before an election before where they were voted out (despite the US government saying they needed bi-partisan support for the bill) so the new government didn't have any time to prepare for it. Regardless of that, if the party members opposed AUKUS (terrible deal for the Australian people which further undermines our own sovereignty as we get further bullied by the US) they would be replaced and flushed out by American puppets by the CIA as they have done multiple times to us. 

There is no threat of China invading Australia and you would have to be a moron to believe there is. Even if you ignore China's military attitude, there is effectively zero incentive for them to invade Australia, on top of how difficult it would be for them to invade Australia anyway. The AUKUS agreement is simply another example of the USA bulldozing another country's sovereignty to further fuel their war machine.

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7/16/2023 2:26am
Juck wrote:
You can really see how good the American propaganda machine is at brainwashing their own citizens in this thread. Apparently China is the cancer that ruins...

You can really see how good the American propaganda machine is at brainwashing their own citizens in this thread. Apparently China is the cancer that ruins countries through... diplomacy. Not the USA that does everything in their power to destroy any country that doesn't fold to their hegemonic power, whether it be through coups, sanctions (that they coerce the rest of the world to follow) or invasions where their soldiers use a Playstation controller to blow up a hospital in a developing country and then spend the rest of their time taking pot shots at children and are hailed as heroes when they come back home.

By the way, it's Taiwan, not Tawain, and almost every country on earth (including the USA) recognises it as a part of China, not a sovereign nation. 

Jesus Christ it is incredible how easy you people believe this ridiculous propaganda. The USA has China encircled with military bases and is constantly provoking it, which of course makes China an aggressor according to you. The only way China is an aggressor is by developing their own economy. China doesn't have a history of invading other nations on the other side of the planet, the reasons they are ramping up their military are purely defensive. 

CSAR FE wrote:

Then why is your own country going through the largest military buildup in decades? 

Juck wrote:
Because it was handled by our previous right wing government who didn't notify any other parties right before an election before where they were voted out...

Because it was handled by our previous right wing government who didn't notify any other parties right before an election before where they were voted out (despite the US government saying they needed bi-partisan support for the bill) so the new government didn't have any time to prepare for it. Regardless of that, if the party members opposed AUKUS (terrible deal for the Australian people which further undermines our own sovereignty as we get further bullied by the US) they would be replaced and flushed out by American puppets by the CIA as they have done multiple times to us. 

There is no threat of China invading Australia and you would have to be a moron to believe there is. Even if you ignore China's military attitude, there is effectively zero incentive for them to invade Australia, on top of how difficult it would be for them to invade Australia anyway. The AUKUS agreement is simply another example of the USA bulldozing another country's sovereignty to further fuel their war machine.

The Chinese Guberment has seen "Tomorrow, when the war Began" and they are dead scared of Ellie, so no probs there.
 

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7/16/2023 3:56am
CSAR FE wrote:
I would rather my 2 year old not have to live her adult life in a world with China as the world superpower, because we’ve been...

I would rather my 2 year old not have to live her adult life in a world with China as the world superpower, because we’ve been addicted to their cheaply made garbage since 1972. But that’s just me.

soggy wrote:

Booo hooo hooo. If that’s how you feel stop using anything they make otherwise get off your soap box. 

CSAR FE wrote:
It’s unfortunately impossible not to, but I do go out of my way not to buy Chinese made items whenever I can. If you knew how...

It’s unfortunately impossible not to, but I do go out of my way not to buy Chinese made items whenever I can. If you knew how truly bad the CCP is and their intentions towards us and the globe as a whole, you would do the same as well. I can assure you it’s much worse than the media lets off. 

You know that many people around the world think the same about....your country ! Silly Just like a mirror image.

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7/16/2023 7:31pm
bvm111 wrote:
Hah… ok man if that’s what you want to believe. If you think China will be weaker in 15-20 years that’s cool, but, that’s just not...

Hah… ok man if that’s what you want to believe. If you think China will be weaker in 15-20 years that’s cool, but, that’s just not the reality we are living in today. Based on my experience operating at the Theater Command level throughout the INDOPACOM region and the information that i have received from dedicated personnel that aren’t trying to sell books or generate traffic to social media posts, the kind that you can’t google and post, Peter isn’t 100% correct on his assessment. The Belt and Road is a concept and don’t kid yourself into thinking China has failed at anything. 

They haven't made any mistakes?. Where did you go to school , UCLA?

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7/16/2023 7:46pm

I could go for a mute button

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7/16/2023 8:24pm
Juck wrote:
You can really see how good the American propaganda machine is at brainwashing their own citizens in this thread. Apparently China is the cancer that ruins...

You can really see how good the American propaganda machine is at brainwashing their own citizens in this thread. Apparently China is the cancer that ruins countries through... diplomacy. Not the USA that does everything in their power to destroy any country that doesn't fold to their hegemonic power, whether it be through coups, sanctions (that they coerce the rest of the world to follow) or invasions where their soldiers use a Playstation controller to blow up a hospital in a developing country and then spend the rest of their time taking pot shots at children and are hailed as heroes when they come back home.

By the way, it's Taiwan, not Tawain, and almost every country on earth (including the USA) recognises it as a part of China, not a sovereign nation. 

Jesus Christ it is incredible how easy you people believe this ridiculous propaganda. The USA has China encircled with military bases and is constantly provoking it, which of course makes China an aggressor according to you. The only way China is an aggressor is by developing their own economy. China doesn't have a history of invading other nations on the other side of the planet, the reasons they are ramping up their military are purely defensive. 

Ahh, I'm with you on the calm the rhetoric down area but China IS acting aggressively in many parts of the world.

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7/17/2023 4:06am

Many of Juck's statements are accurate. China's population problems are very real, and their government's biggest threat is it's own people.

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7/17/2023 4:49am

Save the political horse shit for non moto 

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8/6/2023 3:33pm

Don't know how it will hold on over time, but this very cheap (3000$) 250 Kayo playbike seems rather fun...

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