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That all sounds good and I agree. The problem is if products were made here or another "first world" country, everyone would boycott because it would cost literally twice as much or more. Everyone wants to jump on the "made in america" train until they go to wal mart and the coffee maker that was $30 last week is now $75.
Thank God im not broke.
I love my YCF150 bigy that's made in China, that thing takes a beating and just keeps going.
What are people so worried about. There's a direct line to tech support...just ask for Sum Ting Wong.
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Before anyone gets their panties in a bunch/or didn't' get the reference.
https://nationalpost.com/news/sum-ting-wong-intern-blamed-for-leaking-f…
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is that price pre or post Bidenomics?
All Kove claims are dodgy AF. That p.o.s there has a klr 230 / 300 engine clone. No way its close on power or weight of a racing 250
The belt and road initiative is almost exclusively seen as a failure around the world and the chinese themselves have recently been scaling wayyyy back on the investment because the returns have been so bad. Most people around the world and especially in africa have also caught on to the debt trap diplomacy that was going on and are not thrilled to say the least. What they have gotten out of the BRI is ENORMOUS amounts of debt and not a whole lot to show for it beside a couple of ports that arent connected to anything and are way over built.
About China becoming the global superpower.. they are no doubt going to be a very powerful country, but demographics are destiny and china has the worlds worst demographics. The one child policy wreaked absolute havoc on their birth rate and their population is in complete freefall right now, with their population pyramid upside down with lots of old people and no kids. Their population in 2100 is predicted to be around 500 million, thats a drop off of a billion people. For this fact alone china is never going to surpass the us in gdp. Japan had a couple lost decades after their boom and china is going to make this look like a joke.
That being said yes the world is moving away from a unipolar order and towards a multipolar order with many different spheres of influence. This is the natural state of the world and how it has been for the majority of time. The us being the sole superpower after the Soviet union fell was a rare moment of peace and prosperity, but it was never going to last forever. The US’s demise has been greatly exaggerated and there is massive reindustrialization happening right now. Also the US has the strongest demographics out of the whole developed world working in its favor. That being said it wont be alone in a unipolar world anymore as the US, China, India, Europe, Indonesia, Turkey, Brazil…etc are all going to have their own spheres. China is going to be in for a world of hurt as their population collapses, but they will still be powerful. Their not going to take over the world though, not even close. Thousands of companies are leaving china as we speak and their work force salaries have grown exponentially in recent decades. Its no longer cheapest to make stuff there. Youre going to see a lot of manufacturing moving to India, Mexico, Vietnam, Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, Poland…etc.
Great post. Peter Zeihan agrees.
I think from a recreational perspective, affordable bikes are a very good thing for the market. How many kids would never have a bicycle if you couldn't go to Walmart and buy one for <$100?
What people don't understand is that when Honda is finished with tooling, it's for sale.
China buys said tooling a lot cheaper than designing and making their own.
They build whatever it is at a reduced cost, and it becomes cheaper.
They historically use junk material, but maybe they understand that the world requires better.
Yo, I've got that exact same bike stand. Sweet!
Buy American, or at least NOT chinese junk.
Maga hats made in China. You and Q should be ashamed.
MPGA
make prison great again
Japan used to have the reputation of producing cheap junk, until they collectively decided to produce higher quality.
People used to make fun of Hyundai’s (which are Korean) but now look at them, they make some really high quality cars
China is already making some very impressive cars, it’s just a matter of time until we see some quality dirt bikes too.
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Exactly... Peter does agree.
At the risk of posting something and being called "arrogant" (or maybe he meant educated with practical knowledge and aware? I maybe confused), there is a shift to moving mfg ing back to the US. Clearly for national security it's the right thing to do.
Having the high end chips the USA uses for defense and the high end products mfg'ed at TSMC in Taiwan with no US based second source.... it's a BAD idea! Not to mention a host of other things.
Let the hate begin... fire away! LOL
Honda still makes small engines but have started to produce cheaper engine lines to compete with the Chinese stuff.
Damn, are you being paid by a Chinese owned company or something? I am a strong believer that if we do not change course soon and get off of the cheap China made tit that we a truly screwed. Now, with every mom & dad convinced that little Johnny should go get a degree for Flower blooming meditation from some woke university instead of a good trade school or a blue collar on the job training we will be the land of the incompetent idiots,...... scratch that we are pretty much already there. I mean just look at 60% of the blue-collar jobs now in this country. Supposedly illegals working for pennies on the dollar are fulfilling the jobs that "Americans won't do"??
I'll get off of my soap box but anyone who thinks that the continuous downfall of the US workforce replaced by Chinese cheaply built, mostly stolen technology products from this country and an illegal alien cheap labor workforce are good things is a fucking moron.
Fuck China x5.
Yeah I have Chinese crap, mobile phone, occasional spring rolls, etc... I don't buy any more from them than I absolutely have to, where there is a feasible alternative I will buy it.
The US is getting the shaft from the Chinese even worse than we are in Europe. Even just the Chinese government sanctioned Fentanyl flooding your country ought to be enough reason and that's a drop on the ocean and one of their hundred angles on you. Glad to see more people acknowledging the threat.
I did my best not to post in here, I'm a war monger and a hypocrite, and a host of other reasons... 😂
Back on topic and back to moto, the bike looks shit, no thank you, I don't care how many dongs it costs. I wonder how it'd do at Glen Helen...
I agree cheap bikes, for their purposes, are good but there has to be a better way.
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This is a great video that shows Chinese build quality.
Hah… ok man if that’s what you want to believe. If you think China will be weaker in 15-20 years that’s cool, but, that’s just not the reality we are living in today. Based on my experience operating at the Theater Command level throughout the INDOPACOM region and the information that i have received from dedicated personnel that aren’t trying to sell books or generate traffic to social media posts, the kind that you can’t google and post, Peter isn’t 100% correct on his assessment. The Belt and Road is a concept and don’t kid yourself into thinking China has failed at anything.
I just understand how this country operates and the only way we can compete on the manufacturing side would be basically equivalent to slave labor.
There’s a Semiconductor plant under construction in Phoenix as we speak, but I’m sure it’s still years away from completion.
I do follow Zeihan to get his take on things, but he is often a bit too rainbows and sunshine for our outlook. I don’t buy all of it. We aren’t invincible from the Chinese just because they have a population collapse problem and we have two huge masses of ocean our enemies have to cross to invade us.
The Chinese aren’t idiots. They play the long game, and they have been very successful in working to achieve their goal. We are at war with them whether we realize it or not. They fight us in every domain possible (see “Unrestricted Warfare”). All this to say, no fucking way would I willingly fund my own demise (both nationally and physically) by purchasing one of their piece of shit motorcycles.
When a certain president decided to try and bring all manufacturing back to the US and out of Mexico for the sake of safety and patriotism China took advantage and moved in. China is now operating major production facilities in MX in near the borders since the covid era and has more plans to bring large corporations closer to the US. No more month long shipping times from the mainland. All they have to do is produce in Mexico and ship it right over the border which really improved their supply chain. Mexico welcomed them with open arms since they are not only bringing in more money but investing in their communities and paying them higher wages. But at least it won’t have that made in china tag
Too late
What's not to love about a nice chinese 300 2 stroke? You just have to buy a clutch, and off you go!
It vaguely reminds me of something, but I can't find out what...
Isn't this what we all wanted?
https://asia.nikkei.com/Economy/Trade/China-no-longer-top-exporter-to-U…
Check out Orion. Pretty good Chinese bikes with KTM frames.
Stop worrying about China.
The one thing I can say about my YCF is that the nuts and bolts are not up to japanese standards, but its also the easiest to fix, I have lots of bolt kits and I just replace the old stuff with the good stuff as I ride it and do maintenance. Other than that its been great and no hardware has failed or broken but it strips pretty easy.
Ya'll ever paid attention to where the CRF-F, KLX and TTR lines come from?
The Honda F is assembled in Brazil. I have no idea where the parts come from. At one time I would have guessed Brazil but good chance all the cast parts, engine etc come out of China but that just a guess. I have a Honda F setting in the garage. Which might just be one of the most reliable dirt bikes ever built. A Honda CRF250F might be so slow it can’t get out of its own way. An F is not an Hour bike, recommended oil change cycle is every six months if I recall.
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