Cianciarulo Passed Out & Masterpool Barfed | 2nd Moto At The Wick...

Richy
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7/11/2023 2:52am

To be fair Emig is a reptilian, everyone would have their shirts off and he could sit around with a jersey and chest protector on 😂

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7/11/2023 2:55am
dv12.com wrote:
I think most of the guys should go back to the drawing board as far as the training side is concerned... Some were sad looking on...

I think most of the guys should go back to the drawing board as far as the training side is concerned... Some were sad looking on saturday...

Some guys don't fade so it's obviously possible. I've trained a guy who never faded for 24 motos a couple years ago. If I can come up with a program to deal with the challenges of 12 Nationals, anyone can. The fitness side of things is the easiest part of this sport, repetition, dedication, work when tired, very long training sessions @ low BPMs, active recovery and healthy diet. There's no magic pill...

The tough part of our sport is to look effortless like the rookie when he feels someone is too close to him and turn on the "Jetts" looking like he's breaking in a 90s 125 2 stroke...

It's no only about how you train and the amount. Genetic has A LOT to do with it. If you have the wrong genetics for those conditions, you are not going to make it even if you are in great condition. Specially in these 5% scenarios where weather and track type come together.

There is a reason why not anyone can become a world class sprinter or marathon runner. MX with its demanding requirement of stamina is not an exception.

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7/11/2023 3:05am
Nairb#70 wrote:
Having raced Southwick more than many, but less than some, I can attest to the fact that the most difficult thing about the track is that...

Having raced Southwick more than many, but less than some, I can attest to the fact that the most difficult thing about the track is that there is absolutely nowhere to rest in the entire lap. If you are any less than 100%, you will die.

Yup, barely any jumps, you’re always pushing the bike to do something.

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-MAVERICK- wrote:

min klena kropp = my weak body

Not sure how the translation made it to "fit" Blink

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7/11/2023 3:39am

How hot was it with the indexes?

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7/11/2023 4:07am
Milleniums now r just lite weight yup can’t handle much n don’t have a work ethic probably drank too much 6 dollar coffees on the way...

Milleniums now r just lite weight yup can’t handle much n don’t have a work ethic probably drank too much 6 dollar coffees on the way to the track….yep I said it…

mx4 wrote:

AC is more worried about his podcast 😂

You can’t train 16 hours a day…

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7/11/2023 4:58am

When you have to hammer and spend everything you have it will exhaust you and the guys that wear out a pair of gloves and a set of grips are the ones that will be spent, then there are riders that can have those things last for a season...and look relaxed and effortless. The heat and humidity along with the never ending sand and hammering like these guys do giving their all is amazing to me. Unreal athletes. Millville can be torture if its hot and it's coming fast!

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7/11/2023 5:16am

Funny, you would think the guys from Texas & Florida would be acclimated to the heat & humidity. Sometimes it takes a while to recover from heat exhaustion, hopefully it does not effect these 2 the rest of the summer…Southwick is awesome….one of the last National tracks to remain true to its roots. 

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7/11/2023 5:46am Edited Date/Time 7/11/2023 6:32am

Steve Wise is a big fan of Masterpool. Steve was #81 his first year with Kawasaki

Steve said back in 1980 he battled with Howerton for the lead most of the first moto at Southwick, but used up almost every ounce of energy he had. When the second moto started he was ok until about the 10 minute mark and just totally ran out of energy and faded outside the top 10. Said it was the most brutal track on the circuit even back then. Of course this was when motos where 40+2. 

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7/11/2023 5:55am
dv12.com wrote:
I think most of the guys should go back to the drawing board as far as the training side is concerned... Some were sad looking on...

I think most of the guys should go back to the drawing board as far as the training side is concerned... Some were sad looking on saturday...

Some guys don't fade so it's obviously possible. I've trained a guy who never faded for 24 motos a couple years ago. If I can come up with a program to deal with the challenges of 12 Nationals, anyone can. The fitness side of things is the easiest part of this sport, repetition, dedication, work when tired, very long training sessions @ low BPMs, active recovery and healthy diet. There's no magic pill...

The tough part of our sport is to look effortless like the rookie when he feels someone is too close to him and turn on the "Jetts" looking like he's breaking in a 90s 125 2 stroke...

"very long training sessions @ low BPMs"

Outside of the pros I think this aspect of training is still massively overlooked. There is a mountain of evidence showing the benefits of Zone 2 HR training. From personal experience I've seen my best 5k run times and 40k cycle times after I started low HR training. Strong muscles don't mean shit if you don't have the cardio to keep them working.

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7/11/2023 5:58am
Zoom wrote:
Steve Wise is a big fan of Masterpool. Steve was #81 his first year with Kawasaki Steve said back in 1980 he battled with Howerton for...

Steve Wise is a big fan of Masterpool. Steve was #81 his first year with Kawasaki

Steve said back in 1980 he battled with Howerton for the lead most of the first moto at Southwick, but used up almost every ounce of energy he had. When the second moto started he was ok until about the 10 minute mark and just totally ran out of energy and faded outside the top 10. Said it was the most brutal track on the circuit even back then. Of course this was when motos where 40+2. 

Especially in 1980. Even Southwick in '93, when I raced there the first time, it was way deeper

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7/11/2023 6:07am

So AC raced while sick, still finished both motos, and we are giving him crap because he passed out after the race?

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7/11/2023 6:24am
wrc777 wrote:

So AC raced while sick, still finished both motos, and we are giving him crap because he passed out after the race?

my thoughts exactly....we praise dudes that DNS'd the second motos because it was so brutal, but some clowns take shots at AC for grinding it out.  Some folks in our sport are so low-IQ...

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7/11/2023 6:25am
Richy wrote:

To be fair Emig is a reptilian, everyone would have their shirts off and he could sit around with a jersey and chest protector on 😂

Emig is the best how weather rider there ever was. He’s from Mo. nicknamed  missory parts of Mo. can get 100-120 with 99% humidity & dew point. 91 Millville it was 94 muggy with still air. Emig was the only rider sitting in view. Everyone else Hiding in front of a fan. Emig sat on the back on the box van with race socks& pants on. No shirt of course the crowd of Norwegian blonde girls just starred & never said a word. My chic was non stop stupid questions.   The 125 class was wo start to finish. The 500,s started cruising at 15 min.  Henry on a DGY yz125 lead for some laps, Lamson on a peak cr125 lead, Mx Kid lead laps, Larocco was a animal on the rm125.  Lechien went 4,4 on the kx500 ford parts sponsored ride. Bradshaw wr500 yz490 air hammer sounded like a rod was going the at 15 min he lead until the hp was down to 30.

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7/11/2023 6:31am

OP, you’ve done it. You’ve awoken the profeshenal. 

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7/11/2023 6:35am
aeffertz wrote:

OP, you’ve done it. You’ve awoken the profeshenal. 

You're welcome...

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7/11/2023 6:43am
Richy wrote:

To be fair Emig is a reptilian, everyone would have their shirts off and he could sit around with a jersey and chest protector on 😂

Emig is the best how weather rider there ever was. He’s from Mo. nicknamed  missory parts of Mo. can get 100-120 with 99% humidity & dew...

Emig is the best how weather rider there ever was. He’s from Mo. nicknamed  missory parts of Mo. can get 100-120 with 99% humidity & dew point. 91 Millville it was 94 muggy with still air. Emig was the only rider sitting in view. Everyone else Hiding in front of a fan. Emig sat on the back on the box van with race socks& pants on. No shirt of course the crowd of Norwegian blonde girls just starred & never said a word. My chic was non stop stupid questions.   The 125 class was wo start to finish. The 500,s started cruising at 15 min.  Henry on a DGY yz125 lead for some laps, Lamson on a peak cr125 lead, Mx Kid lead laps, Larocco was a animal on the rm125.  Lechien went 4,4 on the kx500 ford parts sponsored ride. Bradshaw wr500 yz490 air hammer sounded like a rod was going the at 15 min he lead until the hp was down to 30.

99% humidity? Thats called rain bro. Lol

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7/11/2023 7:05am

They really should allow IV fluid/mineral replacement. 

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7/11/2023 7:08am

As someone who's been there, done that, what do you think of Jett? What does your trained eye see when you watch him ride?

dv12.com wrote:

Perfection... He looks like a GMO rider where they took the best qualities from several legends of our sport and made 1 rider. Pretty astonishing!

A few weeks back someone posted that Jett was, "surfing the track".  I thought that was an exact description of his style.

He doesn't pound or fight the track.  It's almost zen like.  While others continue to use blown out lines lap after lap...he constantly finds the flow.  

He is about as close to perfect as a racer can be.

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7/11/2023 7:46am

Chris Canning looked like he was ready to go do another moto after that second Moto. They were pointing out how good he looked on the after show.  I'm sure he knows how to flow with the track. And  I wonder if he could have done better if he pushed harder or was limited by his skill and not fitness. I think he did great, I was hoping he was not going to get passed by Butron in that 2nd moto. He would have been 5th overall if he stayed in front of him and everybody else finished how they finished.  It was hot , but its been hotter. I have photos of the temp being over 100 at one of the Nationals there. 

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7/11/2023 8:14am
Grocery warehouse outside of Milwaukee checks us for guns with a wand. Where such badasses. Ty puked on the 2nd lap that has nothing to do...

Grocery warehouse outside of Milwaukee checks us for guns with a wand. Where such badasses. Ty puked on the 2nd lap that has nothing to do with the track. I,ve spent 20 min everyday throwing up  so hard I burst the blood vessels in my eyes for 7 weeks straight. That’s from a beaten trk. Mostly white foam comes  up& a little fluid. 190+ & high humidity in the cab. How about 190+ inside of a trl hand unloading 46k.  I was 3 1/2 hrs from Southwick sat it wasn’t hot at all just a tiny bit muggy.

uh wut?

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7/11/2023 8:17am
Richy wrote:

To be fair Emig is a reptilian, everyone would have their shirts off and he could sit around with a jersey and chest protector on 😂

Emig is the best how weather rider there ever was. He’s from Mo. nicknamed  missory parts of Mo. can get 100-120 with 99% humidity & dew...

Emig is the best how weather rider there ever was. He’s from Mo. nicknamed  missory parts of Mo. can get 100-120 with 99% humidity & dew point. 91 Millville it was 94 muggy with still air. Emig was the only rider sitting in view. Everyone else Hiding in front of a fan. Emig sat on the back on the box van with race socks& pants on. No shirt of course the crowd of Norwegian blonde girls just starred & never said a word. My chic was non stop stupid questions.   The 125 class was wo start to finish. The 500,s started cruising at 15 min.  Henry on a DGY yz125 lead for some laps, Lamson on a peak cr125 lead, Mx Kid lead laps, Larocco was a animal on the rm125.  Lechien went 4,4 on the kx500 ford parts sponsored ride. Bradshaw wr500 yz490 air hammer sounded like a rod was going the at 15 min he lead until the hp was down to 30.

gharmon wrote:

99% humidity? Thats called rain bro. Lol

*fog

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7/11/2023 8:28am
Grocery warehouse outside of Milwaukee checks us for guns with a wand. Where such badasses. Ty puked on the 2nd lap that has nothing to do...

Grocery warehouse outside of Milwaukee checks us for guns with a wand. Where such badasses. Ty puked on the 2nd lap that has nothing to do with the track. I,ve spent 20 min everyday throwing up  so hard I burst the blood vessels in my eyes for 7 weeks straight. That’s from a beaten trk. Mostly white foam comes  up& a little fluid. 190+ & high humidity in the cab. How about 190+ inside of a trl hand unloading 46k.  I was 3 1/2 hrs from Southwick sat it wasn’t hot at all just a tiny bit muggy.

TAUTOG wrote:

uh wut?

The heat must have gotten to him....

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7/11/2023 8:32am Edited Date/Time 7/11/2023 8:33am
Grocery warehouse outside of Milwaukee checks us for guns with a wand. Where such badasses. Ty puked on the 2nd lap that has nothing to do...

Grocery warehouse outside of Milwaukee checks us for guns with a wand. Where such badasses. Ty puked on the 2nd lap that has nothing to do with the track. I,ve spent 20 min everyday throwing up  so hard I burst the blood vessels in my eyes for 7 weeks straight. That’s from a beaten trk. Mostly white foam comes  up& a little fluid. 190+ & high humidity in the cab. How about 190+ inside of a trl hand unloading 46k.  I was 3 1/2 hrs from Southwick sat it wasn’t hot at all just a tiny bit muggy.

TAUTOG wrote:

uh wut?

The heat must have gotten to him....

To be fair, sitting in a 190 degree truck cab rolling down I-94 will get the best of anyone. Thankfully he has a pristine CR125 and a hot babe in a tube top sitting at home to keep his eyes on the prize.

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7/11/2023 8:58am Edited Date/Time 7/11/2023 9:02am
TAUTOG wrote:

uh wut?

The heat must have gotten to him....

aeffertz wrote:
To be fair, sitting in a 190 degree truck cab rolling down I-94 will get the best of anyone. Thankfully he has a pristine CR125 and...

To be fair, sitting in a 190 degree truck cab rolling down I-94 will get the best of anyone. Thankfully he has a pristine CR125 and a hot babe in a tube top sitting at home to keep his eyes on the prize.

Still reminiscing how he won his first ever race, mind you it was A class so hard to forget. The Al Bundy of moto 😂

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7/11/2023 9:10am
yak651 wrote:

Still reminiscing how he won his first ever race, mind you it was A class so hard to forget. The Al Bundy of moto 😂

Polk high school! Never forget!!Silly

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7/11/2023 9:26am
 

1:30 mark he mentions it 

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7/11/2023 9:36am

I remember watching Doug Henry tune up for Southwick in 2005 by racing the Orange Crush GNCC in Lake Winona, Fl.  Juha Salminen was the hot shoe at the time.  Doug shows up and raced three hours in the Florida heat and humidity without a drink system and smashed the field (Including Juha, Shane Watts, Mike Lafferty, Kurt Caselli, Robbie Jenks, Barry Hawk...)  He pretty much collapsed at the finish line and ended up with an IV after the trophy ceremony.  Unbelievable how some riders have the mental fortitude to charge no matter what.

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7/11/2023 9:41am
gharmon wrote:

99% humidity? Thats called rain bro. Lol

At higher temperatures the humidity actually goes down.  I highly doubt it’s ever been 120 degrees with 99% humidity. 

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7/11/2023 9:52am

o higher temps lower humidity?

Warm air can possess more water vapor (moisture) than cold air, so with the same amount of absolute/specific humidity, air will have a HIGHER relative humidity if the air is cooler, and a LOWER relative humidity if the air is warmer.

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