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Next year Triumph, Beta and maybe later Ducati will race in US. I don't think Suzuki is gonna stay with the same bike against those competitors. About the price, Kawasaki have affordable bikes and also a SR model.
Don't think the prices are a real problem when you want to race.
Gas gas bikes sells are higher than KTM?
the 2024 msrp on the kx450 is $10,399. i am not sure i see that as a bargain. in general, i think bikes are getting expensive. along with just about everything else.
You’re right- plenty ‘22/23 two strokes out there and sadly not one of them interests me.
can’t explain why, they just don’t.🤷♀️
Yep, if people support the 2 strokes even more. , Maybe kawy,zook honda would make them. But they wont make them for people to say. If if if they make them. $$ talks
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You made your point,dont buy Dont buy it,why bother posting again,and again
No different than the same topic being brought up over and over. You can scroll.
The market has changed. Bikes are selling under msrp, in some cases $3k under. Local dealer has tons of new 23’ ktm’s for $7k-$8,900, 125, 250f, 300, 450. 23’ MC250’s for $6,450.
With the dealers blowing out bikes it’s really put a hamper on the used market. Supply is plentiful and demand is down. It’s a buyers market now.
99% of vitards cant even ride an RMZ 450 to its fullest potential bros, so why change it?
Motocross bikes have always evolved! 3/4/5 year cycles. I think for the case of the YZs though, people were just happy that Yamaha was still churning out two smokers, and were content with the minimal changes every so often. For Suzuki to just keep slapping stickers on every year, while the competition is making huge upgrades is pretty much giving up, regardless of what a rider can do on said machine
This should be Suzuki's marketing tag line for the '24 release
It will be, but spiffed up a little -
The RM-Z: It's better than you are.. you spode.
The RM-Z: It's not heavier than last year. But you are... tubby.
And so on.
Yes sir, lots of mileage to be had with that campaign theme.
Great ideas!
The All New RMZ, Updated for the new decade!
The 2025 RMZ, You suck more than it does!
The All Newish RMZ, Revolutionary Fender Shape!
On Pulp this week Keefer seemed to be pretty convinced that an updated bike was coming this fall... Not all new but updated with at least e start.
Compared to everything else, bikes are a deal.
I'm just here to point out that as much as bold new graphics gets made fun of, the other bikes with all their press releases and all new everything are all producing bikes largely indistinguishable from the bikes they produced 5-10 years ago. The notion that any of these things are significantly different than they were a few years ago is laughable. Tell me all the big differences between a 2018 and 2023 yz450f? At least Suzuki is being honest about it and saving you some $$$.
This is the kind of delusion I come to Suzuki threads for!
Other then aesthetics’s truck has a pretty valid point. Yes they’ve tweaked the chassis and engine some. But it’s still a reverse cylinder design with essentially the same suspension components. They are far more alike then they are dissimilar.
however I wouldn’t really say Suzuki is lowering there msrp because they haven’t been updating the bikes. They are in the ball park of the other OEM’s
I'd suggest you and your buddy with the 350 swap bikes next time you're doing some sand dunes to see if you get the same results. If not related to rider skill, then something is seriously wrong with your 450.
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While they haven't officially lowered MSRP, they have had a standing $1k manufacturer rebate on new RMZs for 5+ years (and have also not raised MSRP in half a decade in face of pretty large global inflation).So that is effectively a lowered MSRP, even if not reflected on the sticker.
You're the kinda guy who gets awestruck at the sight of new shaped plastic.
I have a bunch of bikes in the garage, from the seventies to current models. I never ride the older ones, it's always the most current ones. There is a difference, if only slight. Newer bikes are nicer, and better in a lot of ways. Maybe not to all folks, but to me there are obvious improvements. If the manufacturers don't make slight improvements even, there is no reason to buy new really, and that is Suzuki's plight. They can not sell an old bike. If an old or older bike is cool and you don't mind riding it, that's great and a great way to save money as well!
And to think Burkeen is qualifying for nationals on 1999 2 stroke engine with a kickstart and a carburetor.
I do have a 2019 450sxf, and it is way easier to ride than my YZ. But its wants over needs
Burkeen just does that because he has no choice.
I see what you did there…
Gotta love a 'rebate'. Why not just not charge that extra $1000 in the first place? Brainless marketing!
Same here! It’s so funny how hard people can close their eyes and ears (and switch off their brains) when it comes to protecting their favorite color bike!
@soggy: are just trolling? There’s almost no parts that are interchangeable, not even the crankcases. Do you know how long Suzuki had the same base engine?
Question: where should a new RMZ come from? They’ve stopped the development of high performance motorcycles all together. No more street racing, no more development of the GSX-R, no more motocross racing. This thing is sadly over.
Finished watching the race last night, sad watching Roczen ripping around and knowing not one person in Suzki's brass gives a shit.
Or they’re thinking: Wow, how can that bike still compete for wins?!? The last time we spend some serious R&D money on that thing was in 2008…
https://dirtbikemagazine.com/suzuki-announces-2024-rm-z250-rm-z450-mode…
Haha, oh man...
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