Ok….which 2024 racing scooter will make the biggest splash

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6/13/2023 10:48am
davis224 wrote:

Either the Beta or Suzuki would make a bigger splash I think, based on whichever is heavier or bigger plastics to displace more water. 

GrapeApe wrote:

Stark Varg just took off its turtleneck and yelled "cannonball"

 

Or yelled “Cannondale” 😂

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6/13/2023 11:04am

If any of the Japanese brands delivered a 350 it would be a tsunami not a splash.

They wouldn't be able to meet the demand. 

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6/13/2023 11:16am

Suzuki making any updates to 450f would break Vital. 

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6/13/2023 1:33pm

Since you guys are all missing the opportunity to bash Suzuki or joke about them, I'll go ahead and say it:

The 2027 RM-Z450 will be the the 2024 bike to make the biggest splash. 

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6/13/2023 2:25pm

As mention above. Jap 350 would bring the house down, especially a Yamaha.  But an electric start 300 YZ 2 stroke would send shock waves and would sell with MSRP at 10k ish with out a blink!!!

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6/13/2023 2:29pm
McG194 wrote:

The Varg splashed in 23. 

I'd call that more of a "drip".

KInda like a venereal disease.

 

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6/13/2023 3:36pm

The KX450 SR is supposed to be something special for 2024

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6/13/2023 3:51pm

Fuel injected KTM85 

lumpy790 wrote:
Nope 85 SX/TC is BNG interesting part is 85 - 500 2024 KTM/Husqvarna lineup have all been released but the 50 & 65 have not so...

Nope 85 SX/TC is BNG

interesting part is 85 - 500 2024 KTM/Husqvarna lineup have all been released but the 50 & 65 have not so I have a feeling they may be getting a design overhaul. 

Maybe it’s the 25 model. Heard the 65 is going FI as well. 

6/13/2023 4:15pm
motoxxx599 wrote:

The KX450 SR is supposed to be something special for 2024

Yep. I`m looking forward to seeing that bike. 

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6/13/2023 4:17pm Edited Date/Time 6/13/2023 5:12pm

Is there anyone posting on this thread who actually believes that if you rode a 2024 KX450, a 2024 RMZ450, a 2024 Beta 450, and a 2023 Stark Varg; slowly through the pits of your local track, the biggest reaction WOULDN'T be for the Varg?

The Triumph is the only other bike that could compete, even remotely, in terms of making a "splash." Trouble is, it's a 250, not a 450, whereas the Varg is both and neither.

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6/13/2023 6:11pm
wwdiii wrote:

I’ve never been an air fork fan, but has to be a reason KTM keeps putting R&D money at them.

Ktm owns wp…. Keep the money in house would be my guess.

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6/13/2023 7:38pm
motoxxx599 wrote:

The KX450 SR is supposed to be something special for 2024

Yep. I`m looking forward to seeing that bike. 

I thought the resident Kaw rep said no such animal for '24?

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6/13/2023 7:59pm

My understanding is that it wont be called SR. 

So, just semantics? Meaning there will be a "hi-performance" version of the KX450, even if they don't use the SR nomenclature?

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6/13/2023 8:52pm

Yes sir, 50th anniversary retro 90`s theme.

Thanks.

Hopefully they don't resurrect the garish, technicolor-vomit themes that were with us for a little while. Sick

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6/13/2023 9:23pm

Mid 90`s purple and blue.

Hmmm...

I'd prefer the neon green/blue (Tecnosel) seat/gold wheels.

But they didn't ask me.

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6/13/2023 11:05pm
Silas444 wrote:
Is there anyone posting on this thread who actually believes that if you rode a 2024 KX450, a 2024 RMZ450, a 2024 Beta 450, and a...

Is there anyone posting on this thread who actually believes that if you rode a 2024 KX450, a 2024 RMZ450, a 2024 Beta 450, and a 2023 Stark Varg; slowly through the pits of your local track, the biggest reaction WOULDN'T be for the Varg?

The Triumph is the only other bike that could compete, even remotely, in terms of making a "splash." Trouble is, it's a 250, not a 450, whereas the Varg is both and neither.

Biggest reaction because no one will want to pit by you and listen to your 5,000watt generator all day. 

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6/14/2023 6:03am
McG194 wrote:

Actually everyone is wrong, the biggest splash will be Yamaha coming out with the 2024 YZ350 F & FX models. 

Wishful thinking

vdrsnk04 wrote:

Electric start probably still wouldn’t work like their current 250/450f’s for the last 5 years lol!

You just have to know the trick. When racing hare scrambles with a dead engine start I would press the start button 30 seconds before my row went. Press it halfway and it primes the fuel pump, so it fires up much faster. My KTM 350 still fires up faster, but it was a big improvement over just trying to start it without priming. 

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6/14/2023 6:07am
tek14 wrote:

Suzuki making any updates to 450f would break Vital. 

Just think if Suzuki was the one to come out with a modern 350 with electric start. 

It would really make sense. If you are that far behind, not just in technology but in market share the path of least resistance would be to "go where they aint." 

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Mid 90`s purple and blue.

Hmmm...

I'd prefer the neon green/blue (Tecnosel) seat/gold wheels.

But they didn't ask me.

Agreed.  I’m a fan of the mid-‘80’s green/blue look.

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6/14/2023 6:41am
Rocket164 wrote:

Anyone know the press release dates for Honda or Yamaha 2024 models? 

Yamaha is end of July

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6/14/2023 6:55am
Silas444 wrote:
Is there anyone posting on this thread who actually believes that if you rode a 2024 KX450, a 2024 RMZ450, a 2024 Beta 450, and a...

Is there anyone posting on this thread who actually believes that if you rode a 2024 KX450, a 2024 RMZ450, a 2024 Beta 450, and a 2023 Stark Varg; slowly through the pits of your local track, the biggest reaction WOULDN'T be for the Varg?

The Triumph is the only other bike that could compete, even remotely, in terms of making a "splash." Trouble is, it's a 250, not a 450, whereas the Varg is both and neither.

Biggest reaction because no one will want to pit by you and listen to your 5,000watt generator all day. 

Most people at a race have a generator running all day anyway, camping too.

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6/14/2023 6:58am

So , do you buy [1] real trick 15k bike or [2] standard 23 kx?

 

6/14/2023 7:10am

I'm really excited for the 24 KX450. Will probably keep my current gen KX for next year then pickup the new one at the end of the year. 

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6/14/2023 7:24am

So , do you buy [1] real trick 15k bike or [2] standard 23 kx?

 

Heck, I saw leftover '22 models listed at $5500 (plus freight/tax) after rebates a few months ago.

The current market may exert considerable downward pricing on new bikes.

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6/14/2023 7:41am

So , do you buy [1] real trick 15k bike or [2] standard 23 kx?

 

Heck, I saw leftover '22 models listed at $5500 (plus freight/tax) after rebates a few months ago. The current market may exert considerable downward pricing on...

Heck, I saw leftover '22 models listed at $5500 (plus freight/tax) after rebates a few months ago.

The current market may exert considerable downward pricing on new bikes.

That may be case in some areas.  I’d bet in my neck of the woods, Houston area dealers will try to get above MSRP on some 2024 models as they come out.  Many of the dirt bike buyer in the big burbs around Houston are refinery/chem plant workers and most get paid well.  I feel like the dealers take advantage of that but that’s just my take.  

6/14/2023 7:52am

The market is kind of weird right now. Some dealers are dumping product, others not so much.ultimately all of those non current units with rebates will sell out.With the cost of materials increase ,bike prices could get a big bump.

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