Stark Varg - First Customer Review

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prozach 5/12/2023 11:14am
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Goldmember wrote:
These proposed Stark Vargs have been shamelessly promoted as the best motocross bike ever. Apart from the uncomfortable fact that NO PRODUCTION STARKS have been shown...

These proposed Stark Vargs have been shamelessly promoted as the best motocross bike ever.

Apart from the uncomfortable fact that NO PRODUCTION STARKS have been shown to have been made in the normally understood sense, the chances of the best riders in the world doing a Pro MX level 100 degree mudder, or sand race, with a sight lap, the required 30 minutes plus 2 laps moto with a red flag restart, on a  6.0, 6.2 or 6.5 kWh battery (pick one) is extremely unlikely. In fact 12 to 15 minutes before it runs out of juice, or thermal limits, (either to protect the battery or the rare earth magnets on the rotor) seems likely.  This 40 minutes or so of race use has to be done twice in an afternoon with a bare hour between motos to recharge.

It's not happening, we all know it, and the AMA will never be presented with proof of the 400 bikes required so won't have to knock them back.

 

Pretty sure all the brands advertise they are the best bike out there.  Kind of silly not to...🤷‍♀️.  

 

Well maybe Suzuki doesn't.  Not sure, haven't seen one of their ads in awhile. Lol

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Goldmember wrote:
There is fuck all going on with the sort of E tech applicable to MX bikes actually. Li ion battery power density/operating requirements is maxed at...

There is fuck all going on with the sort of E tech applicable to MX bikes actually.

Li ion battery power density/operating requirements is maxed at woeful, with nothing on the horizon better. That is all that matters.

The E hire scooters in my city have as much or more tech as the hypothetical Varg.

Sir, with all due respect, you come across like a sad, sad, sad organism. Have a steak or something. Watch a sunset. Ride a bike. It's a big scary world out there, sure, but i'm sure you can handle it. Now get off of these silly interwebs and go outside. T&P's dear fellow motorcycle enjoyer.

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The real Sasquatch 5/12/2023 11:39am
5/12/2023 11:39am
The real Sasquatch wrote:
Don't be crazy,  Stark is just going to pay everybody that rides the bike to say great things about it. With all of that money they...

Don't be crazy,  Stark is just going to pay everybody that rides the bike to say great things about it. With all of that money they got  from $100 deposits.  I doubt those 3 or 4 guys will ever admit the Varg is a good bike.  When MXA tests it and finds something to complain about they will hold onto that slice of negativity and disregard all of the positive stuff because its not perfect for everybody. 

One of my customers just got their updated ETA of sometime in July now.  So there should be Varg's in the wild by  mid summer.  

number six wrote:

What was your customer's previous expected delivery date ?      

 

It was November 22

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theycallmeebryan 5/12/2023 11:51am
5/12/2023 11:51am

Just got confirmation that my bike will be delivered next Wednesday!! Woohoo

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burn1986 5/12/2023 11:53am
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theycallmeebryan wrote:
Just got confirmation that my bike will be delivered next Wednesday!! 

Just got confirmation that my bike will be delivered next Wednesday!! Woohoo

Awesome man!

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The real Sasquatch 5/12/2023 12:02pm
5/12/2023 12:02pm
theycallmeebryan wrote:
Just got confirmation that my bike will be delivered next Wednesday!! 

Just got confirmation that my bike will be delivered next Wednesday!! Woohoo

Finally the post I have been hoping would be here when I click  to see an update.

  Are you going to add to this post , or try out a new fresh one with your first impressions of your own Varg? I don't really see a new one going any differently. 

 

Looking forward to seeing how it is on tracks that you have been riding on for years.  Is Yours on a boat with others? or coming by air and by itself ?  I don't think the hardcore electric haters will be convinced no matter what. But You will help a lot of people that are on the fence about getting a varg decide with the info in your videos.   

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theycallmeebryan 5/12/2023 12:22pm
5/12/2023 12:22pm
theycallmeebryan wrote:
Just got confirmation that my bike will be delivered next Wednesday!! 

Just got confirmation that my bike will be delivered next Wednesday!! Woohoo

The real Sasquatch wrote:
Finally the post I have been hoping would be here when I click  to see an update.   Are you going to add to this post...

Finally the post I have been hoping would be here when I click  to see an update.

  Are you going to add to this post , or try out a new fresh one with your first impressions of your own Varg? I don't really see a new one going any differently. 

 

Looking forward to seeing how it is on tracks that you have been riding on for years.  Is Yours on a boat with others? or coming by air and by itself ?  I don't think the hardcore electric haters will be convinced no matter what. But You will help a lot of people that are on the fence about getting a varg decide with the info in your videos.   

Id say keep an eye on my social for short clips and my youtube for longer videos. Have a lot of content planned, including some collaborations with moto companies. Stay tuned 😉 

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theycallmeebryan wrote:
Just got confirmation that my bike will be delivered next Wednesday!! 

Just got confirmation that my bike will be delivered next Wednesday!! Woohoo

The real Sasquatch wrote:
Finally the post I have been hoping would be here when I click  to see an update.   Are you going to add to this post...

Finally the post I have been hoping would be here when I click  to see an update.

  Are you going to add to this post , or try out a new fresh one with your first impressions of your own Varg? I don't really see a new one going any differently. 

 

Looking forward to seeing how it is on tracks that you have been riding on for years.  Is Yours on a boat with others? or coming by air and by itself ?  I don't think the hardcore electric haters will be convinced no matter what. But You will help a lot of people that are on the fence about getting a varg decide with the info in your videos.   

theycallmeebryan wrote:
Id say keep an eye on my social for short clips and my youtube for longer videos. Have a lot of content planned, including some collaborations...

Id say keep an eye on my social for short clips and my youtube for longer videos. Have a lot of content planned, including some collaborations with moto companies. Stay tuned 😉 

What are you wearing.

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The real Sasquatch wrote:
Finally the post I have been hoping would be here when I click  to see an update.   Are you going to add to this post...

Finally the post I have been hoping would be here when I click  to see an update.

  Are you going to add to this post , or try out a new fresh one with your first impressions of your own Varg? I don't really see a new one going any differently. 

 

Looking forward to seeing how it is on tracks that you have been riding on for years.  Is Yours on a boat with others? or coming by air and by itself ?  I don't think the hardcore electric haters will be convinced no matter what. But You will help a lot of people that are on the fence about getting a varg decide with the info in your videos.   

theycallmeebryan wrote:
Id say keep an eye on my social for short clips and my youtube for longer videos. Have a lot of content planned, including some collaborations...

Id say keep an eye on my social for short clips and my youtube for longer videos. Have a lot of content planned, including some collaborations with moto companies. Stay tuned 😉 

southeast wrote:

What are you wearing.

Khakis

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HonDawg17 5/12/2023 1:14pm
5/12/2023 1:14pm

Is James Cameron directing the Sales to shipment date calendar for Stark? Asking for a friend..

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theycallmeebryan wrote:
Just got confirmation that my bike will be delivered next Wednesday!! 

Just got confirmation that my bike will be delivered next Wednesday!! Woohoo

The real Sasquatch wrote:
Finally the post I have been hoping would be here when I click  to see an update.   Are you going to add to this post...

Finally the post I have been hoping would be here when I click  to see an update.

  Are you going to add to this post , or try out a new fresh one with your first impressions of your own Varg? I don't really see a new one going any differently. 

 

Looking forward to seeing how it is on tracks that you have been riding on for years.  Is Yours on a boat with others? or coming by air and by itself ?  I don't think the hardcore electric haters will be convinced no matter what. But You will help a lot of people that are on the fence about getting a varg decide with the info in your videos.   

theycallmeebryan wrote:
Id say keep an eye on my social for short clips and my youtube for longer videos. Have a lot of content planned, including some collaborations...

Id say keep an eye on my social for short clips and my youtube for longer videos. Have a lot of content planned, including some collaborations with moto companies. Stay tuned 😉 

I suggest a new thread on here next weekend:

" Stark Varg - Actual First Customer Review" 

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Sandusky26 5/12/2023 2:19pm
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Goldmember wrote:
These proposed Stark Vargs have been shamelessly promoted as the best motocross bike ever. Apart from the uncomfortable fact that NO PRODUCTION STARKS have been shown...

These proposed Stark Vargs have been shamelessly promoted as the best motocross bike ever.

Apart from the uncomfortable fact that NO PRODUCTION STARKS have been shown to have been made in the normally understood sense, the chances of the best riders in the world doing a Pro MX level 100 degree mudder, or sand race, with a sight lap, the required 30 minutes plus 2 laps moto with a red flag restart, on a  6.0, 6.2 or 6.5 kWh battery (pick one) is extremely unlikely. In fact 12 to 15 minutes before it runs out of juice, or thermal limits, (either to protect the battery or the rare earth magnets on the rotor) seems likely.  This 40 minutes or so of race use has to be done twice in an afternoon with a bare hour between motos to recharge.

It's not happening, we all know it, and the AMA will never be presented with proof of the 400 bikes required so won't have to knock them back.

 

prozach wrote:
Pretty sure all the brands advertise they are the best bike out there.  Kind of silly not to...🤷‍♀️.     Well maybe Suzuki doesn't.  Not sure, haven't...

Pretty sure all the brands advertise they are the best bike out there.  Kind of silly not to...🤷‍♀️.  

 

Well maybe Suzuki doesn't.  Not sure, haven't seen one of their ads in awhile. Lol

Most manufacturers hire someone credible.

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yota 5/12/2023 2:39pm
5/12/2023 2:39pm

it's all about the content.

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ksithumper 5/12/2023 2:47pm
5/12/2023 2:47pm
theycallmeebryan wrote:
Just got confirmation that my bike will be delivered next Wednesday!! 

Just got confirmation that my bike will be delivered next Wednesday!! Woohoo

That will annoy Goldmember 😁

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BBA 5/12/2023 3:04pm
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ksithumper wrote:

That will annoy Goldmember 😁

Don't poke that old bear too hard. If Wednesday comes and still no bike he'll have teeth to come at this thread with. I hope he does get his bike. When one shows up at a track or riding area near me, I'll be paying attention to what it's about. 

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philG 5/12/2023 3:07pm
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mark911 wrote:
It's not that everyone is a pro or not, it's that Stark promised those things and I was calling them out on it.   I was proved...

It's not that everyone is a pro or not, it's that Stark promised those things and I was calling them out on it.   I was proved correct on the weight promise, so we'll see over time how many other promises are validated.    

People will forgive you for being wrong,but they wont forgive you for being right. 

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mark911 wrote:
It's not that everyone is a pro or not, it's that Stark promised those things and I was calling them out on it.   I was proved...

It's not that everyone is a pro or not, it's that Stark promised those things and I was calling them out on it.   I was proved correct on the weight promise, so we'll see over time how many other promises are validated.    

philG wrote:

People will forgive you for being wrong,but they wont forgive you for being right. 

How would you know?

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Moto520 5/12/2023 3:48pm
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Hopefully some of you guys will start seeing your bikes and give reports.   I’m sure they’ll be awesome

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JM485 5/12/2023 4:32pm
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-MAVERICK- wrote:

How many are they producing a day? 

I’m not sure exactly what their output is, I don’t want to speak to that and start any wild speculation.  

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Adult men that use the winking emoji need to be stopped

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Adult men that use the winking emoji need to be stopped

Do they? Wink

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You must be new here. It is so the global elites can electrify our means of conveyance so we can be herded like the sheep we...

You must be new here. It is so the global elites can electrify our means of conveyance so we can be herded like the sheep we are.

 

Why it is originating in Spain, you may ask? Because of something nobody expects....

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition! 

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so guys, the SX survivor-season is over, now is showtime for something otherSilly


I can’t wait for the promoter/propaganda next weekLaughing

keep a cold beer…cheers

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Looking forward to the reviews of the stark, I'm all for choice and one more bike is more choice....Bryan has done an amazing job of giving us the real info of actual riding and has had to endure the same haters across different forums following him around and generally posting bs 

 

The new batteries are coming in the next few years that will revolutionise ev, they are in use today and so it's not a pipe dream or fantasy. It's just not easy mass producing something instantly.....we all know this really 

 

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mog wrote:
Looking forward to the reviews of the stark, I'm all for choice and one more bike is more choice....Bryan has done an amazing job of giving...

Looking forward to the reviews of the stark, I'm all for choice and one more bike is more choice....Bryan has done an amazing job of giving us the real info of actual riding and has had to endure the same haters across different forums following him around and generally posting bs 

 

The new batteries are coming in the next few years that will revolutionise ev, they are in use today and so it's not a pipe dream or fantasy. It's just not easy mass producing something instantly.....we all know this really 

 

If you go watch the Gypsy interview you will see Anton has everything covered. You guys just need to be patient, this motorcycle is worth the wait.

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theycallmeebryan 5/16/2023 5:49pm
5/16/2023 5:49pm Edited Date/Time 5/16/2023 5:54pm

Stark Varg Owners Manual!

Stark sent me this and i thought you guys might want to take a look at it as well, so i housed it on the ElectricDirtRiders forum.

Note: I encourage you guys to sign up for that forum. It is formerly the Alta Owners forum and contains a wide breath of knowledge and discussion amongst us Alta owners, much of which will be applicable to the Varg.

 
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Sandusky26 5/16/2023 5:50pm
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theycallmeebryan wrote:
Stark Varg Owners Manual! Stark sent me this and i thought you guys might want to take a look at it as well, so i housed...

Stark Varg Owners Manual!

Stark sent me this and i thought you guys might want to take a look at it as well, so i housed it on the ElectricDirtRiders forum.

Note: I encourage you guys to sign up for that forum. It is formerly the Alta Owners forum and contains a wide breath of knowledge and discussion amongst us Alta owners, much of which will be applicable to the Varg.

 

Congratulations man, I hope you get you're bike soon.

Even the owners manual is a huge upgrade from all other offerings from the manufacturers.

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vet323 5/16/2023 7:06pm
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theycallmeebryan wrote:
Stark Varg Owners Manual! Stark sent me this and i thought you guys might want to take a look at it as well, so i housed...

Stark Varg Owners Manual!

Stark sent me this and i thought you guys might want to take a look at it as well, so i housed it on the ElectricDirtRiders forum.

Note: I encourage you guys to sign up for that forum. It is formerly the Alta Owners forum and contains a wide breath of knowledge and discussion amongst us Alta owners, much of which will be applicable to the Varg.

 

Excited for tomorrow. I'll be interested in seeing what changes/upgrades have been done to the production model. 

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theycallmeebryan 5/17/2023 11:03am
5/17/2023 11:03am

Sneak peek at the Stark Varg app GUI. Looks really clean and intuitive. I'll be doing a full, in depth review after my bike arrives.

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Bike delivery day, gets a phone app instead.

Bad Luck Brian - Wikipedia

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