JH84 for the US first round and some more?? Bait??

5/9/2023 10:06am

I get the feeling that he wants to do, but getting approval will be tough...

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mx 219 wrote:
I would love to see Pay Per View with like a 8-10 rider field doing 1 on 1 for somewhere around 20-30 mins + 1 or...

I would love to see Pay Per View with like a 8-10 rider field doing 1 on 1 for somewhere around 20-30 mins + 1 or 2 laps. Maybe double elimination style. Tomac, Ferrandis, Herlings, Sexton, Gajser, Roczen, Prado, etc. Would probably have to be done in like 2 days, but would be sweet to see.

People complain on $5 a. Month lol.
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5/9/2023 10:35am

I think this is just fake news from mxlarge ......but if herlings really want that...then I don't see why ktm is having a hard time doing that....he is allowed to race in france the netherlands and Engeland...why not than in the usa........that's for ktm a much more important race i think....

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5/9/2023 10:42am Edited Date/Time 5/9/2023 10:42am
mx 219 wrote:
I would love to see Pay Per View with like a 8-10 rider field doing 1 on 1 for somewhere around 20-30 mins + 1 or...

I would love to see Pay Per View with like a 8-10 rider field doing 1 on 1 for somewhere around 20-30 mins + 1 or 2 laps. Maybe double elimination style. Tomac, Ferrandis, Herlings, Sexton, Gajser, Roczen, Prado, etc. Would probably have to be done in like 2 days, but would be sweet to see.

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People complain on $5 a. Month lol.

Gotta pay to play. I think people would pay to watch and/or come to the event.

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5/9/2023 10:58am
mx 219 wrote:
I would love to see Pay Per View with like a 8-10 rider field doing 1 on 1 for somewhere around 20-30 mins + 1 or...

I would love to see Pay Per View with like a 8-10 rider field doing 1 on 1 for somewhere around 20-30 mins + 1 or 2 laps. Maybe double elimination style. Tomac, Ferrandis, Herlings, Sexton, Gajser, Roczen, Prado, etc. Would probably have to be done in like 2 days, but would be sweet to see.

mxb2 wrote:
People complain on $5 a. Month lol.
mx 219 wrote:

Gotta pay to play. I think people would pay to watch and/or come to the event.

Oh. I get it for sure, but some think everything should be free.
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5/9/2023 11:14am

Bait,  isn't like year 3 now said similar he says it casually jokingly in an interview with no real intent of actually doing it. And you all go crazy, I'm pretty sure most mxgp guys would say if asked.  I want to race in the u.s. someday. 

 

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Bait,  isn't like year 3 now said similar he says it casually jokingly in an interview with no real intent of actually doing it. And you...

Bait,  isn't like year 3 now said similar he says it casually jokingly in an interview with no real intent of actually doing it. And you all go crazy, I'm pretty sure most mxgp guys would say if asked.  I want to race in the u.s. someday. 

 

Double standard!?During the last decade,a few top european (Desalle,Cairoli,Herlings,De Dycker….) raced in the US but only Villopoto was the only top american on european soil.

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5/12/2023 8:52pm

This is a real thing with JH, not click bait.

There should be some news soon.

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5/12/2023 9:07pm
Brent wrote:

This is a real thing with JH, not click bait.

There should be some news soon.

hopefully he gets approval, i want to meet him at round one

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5/12/2023 10:43pm

I think at a time where a lot of people think the National Outdoor championship is going to be a snoozer now that Eli Tomac is out, any news that Jeffrey Herlings might race the first National would ad some spice and be welcome news.  I hope it happens and it's good food for thought.  

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5/12/2023 11:17pm Edited Date/Time 5/12/2023 11:18pm

He's down as racing the British championship this weekend (I wonder who's gonna win...) 

Granted the stakes are much lower racing here in the UK, and frankly the competition is a lower calibre, but obviously any time you line up with fast dudes anywhere there's a risk.

Not a knock on the British championship above, it just goes without saying the AMA MX and MXGP are another level.

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5/12/2023 11:40pm

 He's just going for broke with his racing this year.

JT$ describes Herlings as "Revenge Racing", in a pod cast up on the MXVice website : https://mxvice.com/the-mx-vice-show-episode-125-with-jason-thomas/ . It's just under 28 minutes in length.

For Pala, he'll be coming off 2 weekends in Indonesia. Straight from a GP to Pala, then back to The Netherlands for a race  2 days(?) after Pala. Then,  Loket the next weekend.

Faaaaaaaaark, what a schedule. The sport is risky, but that's a Lot of Racing, And, a Big One : A Lot of Travelling.

I do hope he gets to Southwick, but the 2 Indos / Pala / Home Race then Loket, looks like a hell of an ask. 

I'd hate to see him lose a potential World Championship, again,  through getting hurt.

As I wrote, racing is risky, but cramming so much of it into such a compressed time period, with so much International travel,  really 'ups' the risk. 

 

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Bearuno wrote:
 He's just going for broke with his racing this year. JT$ describes Herlings as "Revenge Racing", in a pod cast up on the MXVice website : https://mxvice.com/the-mx-vice-show-episode-125-with-jason-thomas/ ...

 He's just going for broke with his racing this year.

JT$ describes Herlings as "Revenge Racing", in a pod cast up on the MXVice website : https://mxvice.com/the-mx-vice-show-episode-125-with-jason-thomas/ . It's just under 28 minutes in length.

For Pala, he'll be coming off 2 weekends in Indonesia. Straight from a GP to Pala, then back to The Netherlands for a race  2 days(?) after Pala. Then,  Loket the next weekend.

Faaaaaaaaark, what a schedule. The sport is risky, but that's a Lot of Racing, And, a Big One : A Lot of Travelling.

I do hope he gets to Southwick, but the 2 Indos / Pala / Home Race then Loket, looks like a hell of an ask. 

I'd hate to see him lose a potential World Championship, again,  through getting hurt.

As I wrote, racing is risky, but cramming so much of it into such a compressed time period, with so much International travel,  really 'ups' the risk. 

 

Which is why I’d be surprised if KTM said yes. But we can only hope.

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Bearuno wrote:
 He's just going for broke with his racing this year. JT$ describes Herlings as "Revenge Racing", in a pod cast up on the MXVice website : https://mxvice.com/the-mx-vice-show-episode-125-with-jason-thomas/ ...

 He's just going for broke with his racing this year.

JT$ describes Herlings as "Revenge Racing", in a pod cast up on the MXVice website : https://mxvice.com/the-mx-vice-show-episode-125-with-jason-thomas/ . It's just under 28 minutes in length.

For Pala, he'll be coming off 2 weekends in Indonesia. Straight from a GP to Pala, then back to The Netherlands for a race  2 days(?) after Pala. Then,  Loket the next weekend.

Faaaaaaaaark, what a schedule. The sport is risky, but that's a Lot of Racing, And, a Big One : A Lot of Travelling.

I do hope he gets to Southwick, but the 2 Indos / Pala / Home Race then Loket, looks like a hell of an ask. 

I'd hate to see him lose a potential World Championship, again,  through getting hurt.

As I wrote, racing is risky, but cramming so much of it into such a compressed time period, with so much International travel,  really 'ups' the risk. 

 

Pala is the 27th of May, the Dutch Masters race in Oldebroek is the following monday. The two Indonesian rounds are the 25th of June and 2nd of July, weeks after that. This would be his calendar:

 

BRITISH MX, Foxhill - 14/5;

in 6 days MXGP, France - 20-21/5;

in 6 days AMA-MX, Fox Raceway - 27/5;

in 2 days DUTCH MASTERS MX, Oldebroek - 29/5;

in 5 days MXGP, Latvia - 3-4/6;

in 7 days MXGP, Germany - 10-11/6.

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5/13/2023 2:50am Edited Date/Time 5/13/2023 5:59am
Bearuno wrote:
 He's just going for broke with his racing this year. JT$ describes Herlings as "Revenge Racing", in a pod cast up on the MXVice website : https://mxvice.com/the-mx-vice-show-episode-125-with-jason-thomas/ ...

 He's just going for broke with his racing this year.

JT$ describes Herlings as "Revenge Racing", in a pod cast up on the MXVice website : https://mxvice.com/the-mx-vice-show-episode-125-with-jason-thomas/ . It's just under 28 minutes in length.

For Pala, he'll be coming off 2 weekends in Indonesia. Straight from a GP to Pala, then back to The Netherlands for a race  2 days(?) after Pala. Then,  Loket the next weekend.

Faaaaaaaaark, what a schedule. The sport is risky, but that's a Lot of Racing, And, a Big One : A Lot of Travelling.

I do hope he gets to Southwick, but the 2 Indos / Pala / Home Race then Loket, looks like a hell of an ask. 

I'd hate to see him lose a potential World Championship, again,  through getting hurt.

As I wrote, racing is risky, but cramming so much of it into such a compressed time period, with so much International travel,  really 'ups' the risk. 

 

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Pala is the 27th of May, the Dutch Masters race in Oldebroek is the following monday. The two Indonesian rounds are the 25th of June and...

Pala is the 27th of May, the Dutch Masters race in Oldebroek is the following monday. The two Indonesian rounds are the 25th of June and 2nd of July, weeks after that. This would be his calendar:

 

BRITISH MX, Foxhill - 14/5;

in 6 days MXGP, France - 20-21/5;

in 6 days AMA-MX, Fox Raceway - 27/5;

in 2 days DUTCH MASTERS MX, Oldebroek - 29/5;

in 5 days MXGP, Latvia - 3-4/6;

in 7 days MXGP, Germany - 10-11/6.

Yes, I stuffed up completely and mixed  up Pala and Southwick dates  - Blush Doh!

So he's got the French GP on the 21st May  at * "Villo's Escargot" * , then Pala on the 28th, then Dutch Champs round, then on 4th  June, Kegums.

A bit less travel, but, Still an effing Big ask, and a Big risk. For a race at bloody Pala...... I've been there, and Southwick (and a lot of other US Nationals over the decades), and Pala is utter shite compared to 338 - well, any US National track. 

Better to do Southwick on the 9th of July, between Lombock and Loket. But even that, is a Lot of travel,  just a few GPs after the middle of the GP season.

He's bloody keen on his racing, but it's bloody risky. 

It's all down to his employers, basically. 

* " Villo's Escargot" *  - I still call it that because I delayed my work at the TT in 2015, to go to that GP, to see RV's  tilt at the GPs. And, for a dopey old Aussie, it's easier than remembering Villars sous Ecot. It cost me a sh*tload to fly from  near there, over to Ireland, then to the IOM having missed the practice days, and, I think the first (Superbike?) race. T'was a bummer, all around. 

5/13/2023 3:06am

I just realized he could fly back with the red plate in his suitcase!!

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I just realized he could fly back with the red plate in his suitcase!!

Cripes, I didn't think of that ,as, perhaps, a motivation to do Pala!

There's the potential to have the Red plate in MXGP, The US Outdoors, and, I'd say, if they use one, the Red Plate in his National Championships , all at the same time. 

He might be that confident in his abilities, to try such a thing, even if holding the US Red Plate would be but a fleeting thing.

Still, I think it's a hell of a risk, in an already very bloody risky sport.

As CPR said, it would be a surprise if KTM said yes to the idea. Southwick, may be more likely to have a Yes given, if he's got a bit of a points lead by then.

I think the situation Herlings was in when he did, and won Ironman in 2017, was he / they  were already going to be in the USA for the WW Ranch GP, (which he won over Eli)  and then there were the last 2 European GPs. He got 2nd that year to Antonio in the World Championships, so, KTM were (pretty much?) guaranteed the World Champions from either of them, so they  let him gave a go at the National.

 

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5/13/2023 4:28am

It'd be nice to have a 3 rider battle for wins, instead of the HRC show the rest of the season. 

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5/18/2023 5:44am

I get the feeling that he wants to do, but getting approval will be tough...

So Lewis, no news on this or are you preparing a big surprise?

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5/18/2023 6:02am

It'd be nice to have a 3 rider battle for wins, instead of the HRC show the rest of the season. 

Fernandez might have something for them if 100%.

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5/18/2023 12:52pm
Brent wrote:

This is a real thing with JH, not click bait.

There should be some news soon.

How soon for that news?

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5/18/2023 8:07pm Edited Date/Time 5/18/2023 11:08pm
stremme12 wrote:

How soon for that news?

 

Who knows. no one is saying one way or the other.

EDIT - shit you never know who reads this forum,

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5/18/2023 8:59pm
stremme12 wrote:

How soon for that news?

Brent wrote:

 

Who knows. no one is saying one way or the other.

EDIT - shit you never know who reads this forum,

Not moto.... but a fairly crazy example from MTB world back in 2008; when Geoff Kabush podiumed major races in both Australia, and the USA... on the same weekend! World Cup Saturday. Flew back to USA Sunday morning, and raced that afternoon

https://www.bikeradar.com/news/kabush-completes-epic-intercontinental-w…

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5/18/2023 10:22pm
stremme12 wrote:

How soon for that news?

Brent wrote:

 

Who knows. no one is saying one way or the other.

EDIT - shit you never know who reads this forum,

Hang on, are you saying Herlings could possibly jump on a plane to LA to race the 1st National when the French GP is on this weekend? I’m confused. 

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5/18/2023 10:54pm
stremme12 wrote:

How soon for that news?

Brent wrote:

 

Who knows. no one is saying one way or the other.

EDIT - shit you never know who reads this forum,

Hang on, are you saying Herlings could possibly jump on a plane to LA to race the 1st National when the French GP is on this...

Hang on, are you saying Herlings could possibly jump on a plane to LA to race the 1st National when the French GP is on this weekend? I’m confused. 

Me too. If he flies to the states tomorrow, he'll miss this weekend's French GP for a race that happens a week later?

5/19/2023 1:30am
Sully wrote:

Me too. If he flies to the states tomorrow, he'll miss this weekend's French GP for a race that happens a week later?

Ah I forgot the 1st round is next weekend not this weekend but it still doesn’t make sense him flying out today. 

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Robert fobbe did on saturday fox raceway and today oldebroek ( the netherlands) that is 😎😎 special..zo it was possible....  

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I really think Herlings would do it if KTM gave him the green light, and that's something about Herlings that I respect because he knows if he doesn't win, it will make it awfully hard to be considered the fastest man on the planet. He would have all of Europe depending on it and Americans hoping like f he didn't win due to all the "euro vs Americans" arguing online. I think he would rather have Tomac racing because even if he won, there would be that "what if Tomac was there" that would always be a part of it. 

There's an ego risk from hell involved for him, and I admire that he would put it on the line. With that said, if I were him, I would think twice and only attempt it on a track like southwick that suits him the most. 

I admire that he would do it, but just because MX Large is insinuating that he would win, I don't know that he would. Chase and Jett are no joke and I wouldn't chance it if I were him. Especially on certain tracks. Ironman 2017 was what it was. This is an entirely different group of ama riders he would be up against, they would be fully aware of who he is, aware of how fast he is, and aware that they really needed to beat him. I wouldn't risk my ego against these boys, but then again I'm not Jeffrey Herlings. As an American, I hope he does try these boys like that. Then again, I'm kinda hoping he doesn't because that's Jeffrey fucking Herlings. If he does, I'm tuning in like a mf and I'll be pretty nervous. 

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5/29/2023 8:01pm Edited Date/Time 5/29/2023 8:27pm
mxxxeR1 wrote:

Robert fobbe did on saturday fox raceway and today oldebroek ( the netherlands) that is 😎😎 special..zo it was possible....  

Robert raced two pro motocross races in 72 hours on opposite sides of the planet.  Flying east and losing 9 hours ain't easy on the body.

He landed in Holland just in time to go to the track and race Dutch masters. I am very proud of the effort Robert and his family put in to do this.

Robert asked Showpony Films to document what his experiences, if anyone is interested It will be out next month on YouTube.

FYI Herlings actually purchased his airline tickets to do the same thing ,  but that didn't go anywhere obviously. 

 

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Robert fobbe did on saturday fox raceway and today oldebroek ( the netherlands) that is 😎😎 special..zo it was possible....  

Brent wrote:
Robert raced two pro motocross races in 72 hours on opposite sides of the planet.  Flying east and losing 9 hours ain't easy on the body...

Robert raced two pro motocross races in 72 hours on opposite sides of the planet.  Flying east and losing 9 hours ain't easy on the body.

He landed in Holland just in time to go to the track and race Dutch masters. I am very proud of the effort Robert and his family put in to do this.

Robert asked Showpony Films to document what his experiences, if anyone is interested It will be out next month on YouTube.

FYI Herlings actually purchased his airline tickets to do the same thing ,  but that didn't go anywhere obviously. 

 

I spoke with Joel (Showpony) in oldebroek about the race and hew said he was unlucky in the consilidation race. But that he did really good! The documentary will be a killer again, as it was last time we were over with him to do some nationals, that documentary got 100k+ views on youtube all of a sudden, Joel was pumped!!

Cool you helped Robert out !

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