2024 Silly Season

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TKLEVEN wrote:

supposedly they want some one who can win immediately aswell. RJ? Forkner? Kitchen? All pretty expensive riders

-MAVERICK- wrote:
RJ is staying at Husky.  The rumor mill video is saying Swoll, Ferry, and possibly Mosiman. 

RJ is staying at Husky. 

The rumor mill video is saying Swoll, Ferry, and possibly Mosiman. 

I’ve heard the same thing about Mosiman. Any idea who takes his spot at gas gas if he leaves? Vohland?

3/25/2023 9:41am
bd wrote:

Sounds like HRC will keep the 250 program.  See Lars' interview on the latest Pulp MX. 

 

The goal is for Phoenix Honda to take it over in a few years.  

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3/25/2023 10:02am

I don’t think anybody understands how Fast A.Forkner going to be on a 450.  He’s going to beat those guys without even breaking a sweat, stamp it.  
      As far as Roczen;  Suzuki must have a new RMZ-450 coming next year,  otherwise I don’t see the Kenny HEP deal happening for this year.   Any word on a new Zook ??? 

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I don’t think anybody understands how Fast A.Forkner going to be on a 450.  He’s going to beat those guys without even breaking a sweat, stamp...

I don’t think anybody understands how Fast A.Forkner going to be on a 450.  He’s going to beat those guys without even breaking a sweat, stamp it.  
      As far as Roczen;  Suzuki must have a new RMZ-450 coming next year,  otherwise I don’t see the Kenny HEP deal happening for this year.   Any word on a new Zook ??? 

I don't think you understand that Forkner will go faster & fall down harder on a 450. I hope he figures out how to stay off of the ground before he graduates to the big show, because he hasn't figured it out on the 250's yet. Sorry, but if you think he'll "beat those guys without even breaking a sweat"...you are deceived greatly!

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Press516 wrote:
There will be 2 new "factory" 250 teams in Triumph and Beta next year, right???   The upcoming riders like Reynolds, etc. have their rides...  It's going...

There will be 2 new "factory" 250 teams in Triumph and Beta next year, right???  

The upcoming riders like Reynolds, etc. have their rides...  It's going to be the guys like Smith finding a new home.

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Beta will be a 450 program, Triumph will be a three man 250 team and it sounds like two of the riders are already signed.

Then, in ‘25, aren’t we suppose to get…

Another OEM…? A Triumph 450…? And Beta 250…? I wonder what that’s gonna mean for the next 2 Silly Seasons? I can see that being as many as 6-8 rides opening up (8 if the new OEM launches 250 & 450)…so, what are your thought? 

Asking for a friend. Laughing

 

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Press516 wrote:
There will be 2 new "factory" 250 teams in Triumph and Beta next year, right???   The upcoming riders like Reynolds, etc. have their rides...  It's going...

There will be 2 new "factory" 250 teams in Triumph and Beta next year, right???  

The upcoming riders like Reynolds, etc. have their rides...  It's going to be the guys like Smith finding a new home.

ML512 wrote:

Beta will be a 450 program, Triumph will be a three man 250 team and it sounds like two of the riders are already signed.

TeamGreen wrote:
Then, in ‘25, aren’t we suppose to get… Another OEM…? A Triumph 450…? And Beta 250…? I wonder what that’s gonna mean for the next 2...

Then, in ‘25, aren’t we suppose to get…

Another OEM…? A Triumph 450…? And Beta 250…? I wonder what that’s gonna mean for the next 2 Silly Seasons? I can see that being as many as 6-8 rides opening up (8 if the new OEM launches 250 & 450)…so, what are your thought? 

Asking for a friend. Laughing

 

When is Ducati planning on having a team up and running in the US?

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TKLEVEN wrote:

supposedly they want some one who can win immediately aswell. RJ? Forkner? Kitchen? All pretty expensive riders

-MAVERICK- wrote:
RJ is staying at Husky.  The rumor mill video is saying Swoll, Ferry, and possibly Mosiman. 

RJ is staying at Husky. 

The rumor mill video is saying Swoll, Ferry, and possibly Mosiman. 

I’ve heard the same thing about Mosiman. Any idea who takes his spot at gas gas if he leaves? Vohland?

I don't know, but Kitchen, Voland, Shimoda, and Forkner are all available. 

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3/25/2023 11:21am
bd wrote:

Sounds like HRC will keep the 250 program.  See Lars' interview on the latest Pulp MX. 

 

UpTiTe wrote:

The goal is for Phoenix Honda to take it over in a few years.  

I believe the target is the 2025 season for Phoenix to assume the factory Honda 250 effort. Expect their support to increase significantly for 2024. 

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What are odds new bike from roadbike company will work right away in race days and couple young teen age riders know how to fix setups if something isnt clicking? Seems it took one year from KTM group to fix new platform even they had army of riders and engineers around the world testing and racing bikes. Anyone remembering how bad it went when BMW came out with their new Enduro/MX bikes with their new ideas. They should hire older guys who know about setups and testing I dont see guys like Ferry do those things. 

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tek14 wrote:
What are odds new bike from roadbike company will work right away in race days and couple young teen age riders know how to fix setups...

What are odds new bike from roadbike company will work right away in race days and couple young teen age riders know how to fix setups if something isnt clicking? Seems it took one year from KTM group to fix new platform even they had army of riders and engineers around the world testing and racing bikes. Anyone remembering how bad it went when BMW came out with their new Enduro/MX bikes with their new ideas. They should hire older guys who know about setups and testing I dont see guys like Ferry do those things. 

Triumph has a literally who's who of Moto people working and testing on this thing for a long time. 

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3/25/2023 1:32pm
-MAVERICK- wrote:
RJ is staying at Husky.  The rumor mill video is saying Swoll, Ferry, and possibly Mosiman. 

RJ is staying at Husky. 

The rumor mill video is saying Swoll, Ferry, and possibly Mosiman. 

I’ve heard the same thing about Mosiman. Any idea who takes his spot at gas gas if he leaves? Vohland?

-MAVERICK- wrote:

I don't know, but Kitchen, Voland, Shimoda, and Forkner are all available. 

Forkner has a contract through 24.

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3/25/2023 1:32pm Edited Date/Time 3/25/2023 3:02pm

I don't understand the Swoll and Ferry to Triumph talk. I would think Triumph would want to sign some veterans who know how a bike should feel to get it dialed in. Blose, Friese, Jmart type of guys. Swoll can't even stay upright on the Husky which for the most part is dialed in. Ferry is super young and probably isn't much of a test rider yet. Back in the day, when thumpers were just getting going, these teams would put seasoned guys on the bikes to help get them sorted out. I don't see the upside what so ever in putting young kids on a brand new bike. Seems like a recipe for disaster. 

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Malcolm is not going to jump ship to another team. Aldon is his best bet to win a few 450 SX races. 

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-MAVERICK- wrote:
RJ is staying at Husky.  The rumor mill video is saying Swoll, Ferry, and possibly Mosiman. 

RJ is staying at Husky. 

The rumor mill video is saying Swoll, Ferry, and possibly Mosiman. 

I’ve heard the same thing about Mosiman. Any idea who takes his spot at gas gas if he leaves? Vohland?

-MAVERICK- wrote:

I don't know, but Kitchen, Voland, Shimoda, and Forkner are all available. 

Kitchen is the clear choice from that group.

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davistld01 wrote:
I don't think you understand that Forkner will go faster & fall down harder on a 450. I hope he figures out how to stay off...

I don't think you understand that Forkner will go faster & fall down harder on a 450. I hope he figures out how to stay off of the ground before he graduates to the big show, because he hasn't figured it out on the 250's yet. Sorry, but if you think he'll "beat those guys without even breaking a sweat"...you are deceived greatly!

Exactly this. 

He hasnt figured it out racing half the feeder class , what makes you think he will against in the big boy class. 

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I’ve heard the same thing about Mosiman. Any idea who takes his spot at gas gas if he leaves? Vohland?

-MAVERICK- wrote:

I don't know, but Kitchen, Voland, Shimoda, and Forkner are all available. 

pops wrote:

Forkner has a contract through 24.

Thanks for the news. Glad he’s got another year at kawi. 

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3/25/2023 6:31pm

Good luck to any of the young kids going to a new race team. Be prepared for many of dnf failures the first couple of years. 

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3/25/2023 7:46pm

Rumor is triumph is tossing out big money to sign a good 250 rider and get a 450 locked down. Could see anderson going there to finish his career. Maybe AP?

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Safe to say Barcia will be staying put at GasGas. 

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ML512 wrote:

Beta will be a 450 program, Triumph will be a three man 250 team and it sounds like two of the riders are already signed.

TeamGreen wrote:
Then, in ‘25, aren’t we suppose to get… Another OEM…? A Triumph 450…? And Beta 250…? I wonder what that’s gonna mean for the next 2...

Then, in ‘25, aren’t we suppose to get…

Another OEM…? A Triumph 450…? And Beta 250…? I wonder what that’s gonna mean for the next 2 Silly Seasons? I can see that being as many as 6-8 rides opening up (8 if the new OEM launches 250 & 450)…so, what are your thought? 

Asking for a friend. Laughing

 

-MAVERICK- wrote:

When is Ducati planning on having a team up and running in the US?

According to an interview with the CEO, MXGP250 next year. No word on US racing in the interview.

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Spoonguy wrote:

According to an interview with the CEO, MXGP250 next year. No word on US racing in the interview.

Triumph and Ducati entering MXGP next year? 

At least we've heard/seen things with Triumph (team personnel, press conference announcement, riders linked, etc.). 

It's going to be interesting to see if Ducati starts talking about it or if they just keep silent and show up at the line next year. 

Do you have a link to the interview? 

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-MAVERICK- wrote:
Triumph and Ducati entering MXGP next year?  At least we've heard/seen things with Triumph (team personnel, press conference announcement, riders linked, etc.).  It's going to be...

Triumph and Ducati entering MXGP next year? 

At least we've heard/seen things with Triumph (team personnel, press conference announcement, riders linked, etc.). 

It's going to be interesting to see if Ducati starts talking about it or if they just keep silent and show up at the line next year. 

Do you have a link to the interview? 

I found something about it on racerx, but it seems more like a rumor, or potentially they might thunk about it, if everything lines up. If nothing else, it's interesting.

I don't know if this is what he was talking about, or if you already knew about this, but here you go:

https://racerxonline.com/2022/08/09/ducati-potentially-eyeing-2024-mxgp…

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3/26/2023 9:13am
Spoonguy wrote:

According to an interview with the CEO, MXGP250 next year. No word on US racing in the interview.

-MAVERICK- wrote:
Triumph and Ducati entering MXGP next year?  At least we've heard/seen things with Triumph (team personnel, press conference announcement, riders linked, etc.).  It's going to be...

Triumph and Ducati entering MXGP next year? 

At least we've heard/seen things with Triumph (team personnel, press conference announcement, riders linked, etc.). 

It's going to be interesting to see if Ducati starts talking about it or if they just keep silent and show up at the line next year. 

Do you have a link to the interview? 

Honestly I just googled Ducati/MX and that led me to several interviews with Ducati's CEO (Domencali?) that makes it appear it is a foregone conclusion in Europe. He states how well the KTM groups presence in MX racing has helped their brand that it is an obvious move for Ducati as a performance brand to do likewise.

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Alan Cathcart's recent interview KTM's CEO in Motorcycle.Com also mentions Ducati's motocross future.

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3/26/2023 9:54am
Coach529 wrote:
Maybe I missed it, but is Kenny in a 1 year deal at HEP? The way Webb is riding, I do not see him leaving. I...

Maybe I missed it, but is Kenny in a 1 year deal at HEP?

The way Webb is riding, I do not see him leaving. I would think both he and KTM want to keep that relationship together.

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1-year deal for Kenny. 

Coach529 wrote:

So far this season I do not see his stock increasing. 

yeah right only 1 win and 4th in the standings… let’s hope he retires already 🤦‍♂️ 

seriously what has a rider to do not getting shit talked ? 

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3/26/2023 10:47am

nobody has even mentioned Ryder D. Hes in his last year of his amateur contract with Kawasaki .I cant believe they would let him leave but from what i hear is they havent offered him anything for next season .He is the kid i would go after  

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nobody has even mentioned Ryder D. Hes in his last year of his amateur contract with Kawasaki .I cant believe they would let him leave but...

nobody has even mentioned Ryder D. Hes in his last year of his amateur contract with Kawasaki .I cant believe they would let him leave but from what i hear is they havent offered him anything for next season .He is the kid i would go after  

He can't stay healthy...

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if tomac retires, i bet cooper webb is back at star. 

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If Mr. Tomac does actually retire, wouldn't Cooper Webb be the obvious #1 recruit for anyone? Hate to say Chase is obviously fast but his constant crashing while in good positions makes the Honda he rides look more bad than good (Marquez crashed out this weekend too). Bad press right?

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3/26/2023 7:00pm
mjones7212 wrote:
nobody has even mentioned Ryder D. Hes in his last year of his amateur contract with Kawasaki .I cant believe they would let him leave but...

nobody has even mentioned Ryder D. Hes in his last year of his amateur contract with Kawasaki .I cant believe they would let him leave but from what i hear is they havent offered him anything for next season .He is the kid i would go after  

He signed for next year.  

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