Brand new 250f is oddly slow?

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fourfourone 3/9/2023 7:10am
3/9/2023 7:10am Edited Date/Time 3/9/2023 7:25am
colintrax wrote:
This doesnt make sense. You're saying you're at like 9k rpm in 4th gear and can't clear a jump? Clearing a jump is a function of...

This doesnt make sense. You're saying you're at like 9k rpm in 4th gear and can't clear a jump? Clearing a jump is a function of speed not power output. You clearly have more than enough speed.

Popping on deaccel sounds lean. Investigate your fuel pump/injectors.

fourfourone wrote:
I normally would 100% agree with on this point but if you watch videos of this jump it's a steep uphill triple with not much of...

I normally would 100% agree with on this point but if you watch videos of this jump it's a steep uphill triple with not much of a lip. 

On my 250 I would deff have yank the throttle to clear it. It's not one of those just hit it with speed jumps. 

Any modern 250f with a healthy motor should be able to clear this jump no problem. 

onewheelwheaties wrote:
They are all "hit it with speed jumps." You can manipulate your trajectory angle multiple ways via loading your suspension, scrubbing, sucking up with your legs...

They are all "hit it with speed jumps." You can manipulate your trajectory angle multiple ways via loading your suspension, scrubbing, sucking up with your legs, etc., but for a given trajectory there is a given required speed baring a change in outside factors (like headwind).

I get that but check out the jump. I'm not saying speed isn't a factor (any decent size triple requires speed). Of course, you need to hit it with a good amount of speed but also with a good amount of throttle off the lip being that it's a step up with a long steep run up. To me it looks like you would have to stay pretty heavy on the gas to make sure you even have enough speed just to clear it. Keep in mind what looks like the landing is just a double. To triple it is about twice as far as what you see. 

I could see an underpowered bike having a hard time jumping this jump. 

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onewheelwheaties 3/9/2023 7:37am
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fourfourone wrote:
I normally would 100% agree with on this point but if you watch videos of this jump it's a steep uphill triple with not much of...

I normally would 100% agree with on this point but if you watch videos of this jump it's a steep uphill triple with not much of a lip. 

On my 250 I would deff have yank the throttle to clear it. It's not one of those just hit it with speed jumps. 

Any modern 250f with a healthy motor should be able to clear this jump no problem. 

onewheelwheaties wrote:
They are all "hit it with speed jumps." You can manipulate your trajectory angle multiple ways via loading your suspension, scrubbing, sucking up with your legs...

They are all "hit it with speed jumps." You can manipulate your trajectory angle multiple ways via loading your suspension, scrubbing, sucking up with your legs, etc., but for a given trajectory there is a given required speed baring a change in outside factors (like headwind).

fourfourone wrote:
I get that but check out the jump. I'm not saying speed isn't a factor (any decent size triple requires speed). Of course, you need to...

I get that but check out the jump. I'm not saying speed isn't a factor (any decent size triple requires speed). Of course, you need to hit it with a good amount of speed but also with a good amount of throttle off the lip being that it's a step up with a long steep run up. To me it looks like you would have to stay pretty heavy on the gas to make sure you even have enough speed just to clear it. Keep in mind what looks like the landing is just a double. To triple it is about twice as far as what you see. 

I could see an underpowered bike having a hard time jumping this jump. 

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Take off angle and initial velocity are the only two things that dictate if you clear a jump (all else being equal, we're ignoring wind resistance and outside factors). An underpowered bike would have a hard time clearing the jump because it would not be able to gain the needed speed in time, or as you are suggesting, be able to load the suspension from hard acceleration to change the take-off angle. This is physics; those are the two factors you can manipulate to change your trajectory.

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fourfourone 3/9/2023 7:49am
3/9/2023 7:49am Edited Date/Time 3/9/2023 8:01am
onewheelwheaties wrote:
They are all "hit it with speed jumps." You can manipulate your trajectory angle multiple ways via loading your suspension, scrubbing, sucking up with your legs...

They are all "hit it with speed jumps." You can manipulate your trajectory angle multiple ways via loading your suspension, scrubbing, sucking up with your legs, etc., but for a given trajectory there is a given required speed baring a change in outside factors (like headwind).

fourfourone wrote:
I get that but check out the jump. I'm not saying speed isn't a factor (any decent size triple requires speed). Of course, you need to...

I get that but check out the jump. I'm not saying speed isn't a factor (any decent size triple requires speed). Of course, you need to hit it with a good amount of speed but also with a good amount of throttle off the lip being that it's a step up with a long steep run up. To me it looks like you would have to stay pretty heavy on the gas to make sure you even have enough speed just to clear it. Keep in mind what looks like the landing is just a double. To triple it is about twice as far as what you see. 

I could see an underpowered bike having a hard time jumping this jump. 

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onewheelwheaties wrote:
Take off angle and initial velocity are the only two things that dictate if you clear a jump (all else being equal, we're ignoring wind resistance...

Take off angle and initial velocity are the only two things that dictate if you clear a jump (all else being equal, we're ignoring wind resistance and outside factors). An underpowered bike would have a hard time clearing the jump because it would not be able to gain the needed speed in time, or as you are suggesting, be able to load the suspension from hard acceleration to change the take-off angle. This is physics; those are the two factors you can manipulate to change your trajectory.

Relax with the Bill Nye talk. 

All I'm saying is I would think you would need to be pretty hard on the throttle all the way up the take off and off the jump. Hence why a 250 low on power may struggle. 

If this jump was just a regular 80-foot triple with a flat run in, you could prob hit it on a bike with half the power and still make it as you don't need the extra nut to get up the hill. 

Again, this is why I could see a bike low on power having a hard time making this jump. 

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It could be you have a faulty bike. Back in the '90s when I worked at a Yamaha dealer, we had a customer complaining that his YZ125 was slow. He was a bigger guy, so we thought it might just be that he needed a 250, but when he brought it in, sure enough it wouldn't get on the pipe. Turns out there was a casting flaw in the carburetor and the thing just wouldn't flow air.

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This thread has a little bit of everything going on.  

 

OP, good luck getting your scoot up to par.

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Looks like OP has stopped responding but the arguing finger pointing continues.   You have to love this place.

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To the OP, make sure the clutch lever has play in it, drain the fuel and throw in some fresh fuel, make sure the rear wheel spins easily on the stand, make sure the filter is clean and there is no obstruction in the airbox. If that does not fix it, take it to the dealer. That is what I would do.

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Buy a Stark. I hear they are the cure for everything!

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BeefyMcWhatnow 3/9/2023 10:46am
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fourfourone wrote:
I get that but check out the jump. I'm not saying speed isn't a factor (any decent size triple requires speed). Of course, you need to...

I get that but check out the jump. I'm not saying speed isn't a factor (any decent size triple requires speed). Of course, you need to hit it with a good amount of speed but also with a good amount of throttle off the lip being that it's a step up with a long steep run up. To me it looks like you would have to stay pretty heavy on the gas to make sure you even have enough speed just to clear it. Keep in mind what looks like the landing is just a double. To triple it is about twice as far as what you see. 

I could see an underpowered bike having a hard time jumping this jump. 

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onewheelwheaties wrote:
Take off angle and initial velocity are the only two things that dictate if you clear a jump (all else being equal, we're ignoring wind resistance...

Take off angle and initial velocity are the only two things that dictate if you clear a jump (all else being equal, we're ignoring wind resistance and outside factors). An underpowered bike would have a hard time clearing the jump because it would not be able to gain the needed speed in time, or as you are suggesting, be able to load the suspension from hard acceleration to change the take-off angle. This is physics; those are the two factors you can manipulate to change your trajectory.

fourfourone wrote:
Relax with the Bill Nye talk.  All I'm saying is I would think you would need to be pretty hard on the throttle all the way...

Relax with the Bill Nye talk. 

All I'm saying is I would think you would need to be pretty hard on the throttle all the way up the take off and off the jump. Hence why a 250 low on power may struggle. 

If this jump was just a regular 80-foot triple with a flat run in, you could prob hit it on a bike with half the power and still make it as you don't need the extra nut to get up the hill. 

Again, this is why I could see a bike low on power having a hard time making this jump. 

OP is back and OP would like to intervene. I probably should have mentioned this from the very start of the thread but I just chose to focus on the triple for the sake of simplicity. The bike has a general 'low on power' feel through the entire track. The bike is marketed as having tons of low end power and falls off on the top quickly, but from what I've felt riding mine, it feels like a regular 250f in the low but it also just drops on the top end as well. I did a race that weekend, and off the start I bogged a little bit before taking off. I was in 2nd gear, near the limiter and dropped the clutch. Bogged. Never in my entire life since leaving the D class have I bogged off a start before. 

 

Also, if you watch the rest of the track on some guys gopro or whatever, nearly every jump on that track was forcing me to put in more effort to clear it than it realistically should have. There was mild wind, but like I said in the original post, there was another guy there on a 2023 yz250f clearing every jump with ease. 

 

I'm gonna go take a look at my clutch related parts first and probably take the bike back to LACR on Sat or Sun along with my kx250f and do side by side gopros. That way I'll really know if I've just suddenly turned to shit or if the bike really is just fucked up.

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Chase_Haliday 3/9/2023 10:54am
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onewheelwheaties wrote:
Take off angle and initial velocity are the only two things that dictate if you clear a jump (all else being equal, we're ignoring wind resistance...

Take off angle and initial velocity are the only two things that dictate if you clear a jump (all else being equal, we're ignoring wind resistance and outside factors). An underpowered bike would have a hard time clearing the jump because it would not be able to gain the needed speed in time, or as you are suggesting, be able to load the suspension from hard acceleration to change the take-off angle. This is physics; those are the two factors you can manipulate to change your trajectory.

fourfourone wrote:
Relax with the Bill Nye talk.  All I'm saying is I would think you would need to be pretty hard on the throttle all the way...

Relax with the Bill Nye talk. 

All I'm saying is I would think you would need to be pretty hard on the throttle all the way up the take off and off the jump. Hence why a 250 low on power may struggle. 

If this jump was just a regular 80-foot triple with a flat run in, you could prob hit it on a bike with half the power and still make it as you don't need the extra nut to get up the hill. 

Again, this is why I could see a bike low on power having a hard time making this jump. 

BeefyMcWhatnow wrote:
OP is back and OP would like to intervene. I probably should have mentioned this from the very start of the thread but I just chose...

OP is back and OP would like to intervene. I probably should have mentioned this from the very start of the thread but I just chose to focus on the triple for the sake of simplicity. The bike has a general 'low on power' feel through the entire track. The bike is marketed as having tons of low end power and falls off on the top quickly, but from what I've felt riding mine, it feels like a regular 250f in the low but it also just drops on the top end as well. I did a race that weekend, and off the start I bogged a little bit before taking off. I was in 2nd gear, near the limiter and dropped the clutch. Bogged. Never in my entire life since leaving the D class have I bogged off a start before. 

 

Also, if you watch the rest of the track on some guys gopro or whatever, nearly every jump on that track was forcing me to put in more effort to clear it than it realistically should have. There was mild wind, but like I said in the original post, there was another guy there on a 2023 yz250f clearing every jump with ease. 

 

I'm gonna go take a look at my clutch related parts first and probably take the bike back to LACR on Sat or Sun along with my kx250f and do side by side gopros. That way I'll really know if I've just suddenly turned to shit or if the bike really is just fucked up.

Just in case it was lost in the sea of BS this thread turned into... I'll say it again.  My 22 yz250f had power/bogging problems. Cleaning the fuel injectors fully resolved the problem.

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This guy is either a troll or he used Rotella T6.  Laughing

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mx313 wrote:
I'm not 100% sure. But the Yamaha doesn't have a preset "aggressive map". You have been on the tuner and changed the timing and fuel? To...

I'm not 100% sure. But the Yamaha doesn't have a preset "aggressive map". You have been on the tuner and changed the timing and fuel? To what some1 has posted online.

Maybe you fucked that up or some1 posted a dodgey map. Reset it to all 0 on the app. And go ride it. 

That would be the 1st thing I do.

Back firing would be a sign of bad fuel/ air mixture.

Magoofan wrote:

I read something about that in MXA last month...I think both maps are the same from the factory....one of MXAs complaints.    

 

Map 1 is more aggressive than map 2 when all are set to zero.

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Fourth_Floor 3/9/2023 1:30pm
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I used to clear Larocco's Leap on my KX 100. 2nd gear seat bounce, no issues.

I'd check your foot positioning.  If you're not riding on the balls of your feet then that's probably the issue.

 

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WarrenMX 3/9/2023 1:59pm
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This thread really highlights how fucking stupid some people are on this board... 

I don't understand why some people are so bent out of shape by the original question. 

OP think his new bike feels underpowered. OP tries to a hit an obstacle that is normally not an issue for OP. OP struggles to clear said obstacle. OP takes out previous bike to make sure OP hasn't forgotten how to ride or how to hit said obstacle. OP clears said obstacle with ease. This confirms OP's original thoughts on bike being underpowered. 

OP did not start the thread to brag or to discuss what was possible on 250F motorcycle. He's carried out a simple experiment to support his hypothesis, like any sane human being.

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 Vitard: Bro, you're an idiot bro, I hit 150' jumps easy on my 2-fiddy bro, you're full of shit bro, prove it bro, I own you bro.

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TheGetFresh 3/9/2023 3:11pm
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I can’t speak to your bike or your specific issue, but I will say that because you weren’t able to diagnose it yourself and needed to ask for help (and suffer the consequences of doing it on vital), you probably need to take it to someone who can look at the bike. Vital hasn’t answered your question and probably isn’t going to. Get face to face with someone who knows these bikes and have them diagnose it. If it’s a faulty part from Yamaha, make them pay for it. If not, pay someone to get the bike right and move on. 

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Timo 3/9/2023 3:51pm
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Clutch slippage, if you're in 4th gear pinned and the speed is lower than the exact other bike than the clutch is slipping or the rear tire is spinning.

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Did you check torque of your sprocket bolts? Maybe they aren’t transferring the power 🤷‍♂️

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mooch 3/9/2023 4:22pm
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The original question and a lot of the replies here remind me of the kind of stuff I see on cycle related stuff on Facebook. 

Personally, unless I was looking for a beat down, I'd never bring up a question like this on the internet...way too many other concrete ways to get to the bottom of things. 

 

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TAUTOG 3/9/2023 5:12pm
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Just thought I'd add that I've used K&N oil on foam air filters with zero issues 

Good luck OP. Might be time for a trip to the dealer. If they are worth a shit, they will at least test it for you if you bought it there.

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temporarily_locked 3/9/2023 8:42pm
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onewheelwheaties wrote:
Take off angle and initial velocity are the only two things that dictate if you clear a jump (all else being equal, we're ignoring wind resistance...

Take off angle and initial velocity are the only two things that dictate if you clear a jump (all else being equal, we're ignoring wind resistance and outside factors). An underpowered bike would have a hard time clearing the jump because it would not be able to gain the needed speed in time, or as you are suggesting, be able to load the suspension from hard acceleration to change the take-off angle. This is physics; those are the two factors you can manipulate to change your trajectory.

fourfourone wrote:
Relax with the Bill Nye talk.  All I'm saying is I would think you would need to be pretty hard on the throttle all the way...

Relax with the Bill Nye talk. 

All I'm saying is I would think you would need to be pretty hard on the throttle all the way up the take off and off the jump. Hence why a 250 low on power may struggle. 

If this jump was just a regular 80-foot triple with a flat run in, you could prob hit it on a bike with half the power and still make it as you don't need the extra nut to get up the hill. 

Again, this is why I could see a bike low on power having a hard time making this jump. 

BeefyMcWhatnow wrote:
OP is back and OP would like to intervene. I probably should have mentioned this from the very start of the thread but I just chose...

OP is back and OP would like to intervene. I probably should have mentioned this from the very start of the thread but I just chose to focus on the triple for the sake of simplicity. The bike has a general 'low on power' feel through the entire track. The bike is marketed as having tons of low end power and falls off on the top quickly, but from what I've felt riding mine, it feels like a regular 250f in the low but it also just drops on the top end as well. I did a race that weekend, and off the start I bogged a little bit before taking off. I was in 2nd gear, near the limiter and dropped the clutch. Bogged. Never in my entire life since leaving the D class have I bogged off a start before. 

 

Also, if you watch the rest of the track on some guys gopro or whatever, nearly every jump on that track was forcing me to put in more effort to clear it than it realistically should have. There was mild wind, but like I said in the original post, there was another guy there on a 2023 yz250f clearing every jump with ease. 

 

I'm gonna go take a look at my clutch related parts first and probably take the bike back to LACR on Sat or Sun along with my kx250f and do side by side gopros. That way I'll really know if I've just suddenly turned to shit or if the bike really is just fucked up.

You better post the GoPro old boy. All this seat bounce physics talk is lame and no matter what your video is going to get roasted so post away

edit: if the track is LACR main the only jump I would hit in 4th is the uphill step up and I bet it’s clear able 3rd wound out. Still gonna need that video

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Nathaniel129 3/9/2023 9:14pm
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WarrenMX wrote:
This thread really highlights how fucking stupid some people are on this board...  I don't understand why some people are so bent out of shape by...

This thread really highlights how fucking stupid some people are on this board... 

I don't understand why some people are so bent out of shape by the original question. 

OP think his new bike feels underpowered. OP tries to a hit an obstacle that is normally not an issue for OP. OP struggles to clear said obstacle. OP takes out previous bike to make sure OP hasn't forgotten how to ride or how to hit said obstacle. OP clears said obstacle with ease. This confirms OP's original thoughts on bike being underpowered. 

OP did not start the thread to brag or to discuss what was possible on 250F motorcycle. He's carried out a simple experiment to support his hypothesis, like any sane human being.

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 Vitard: Bro, you're an idiot bro, I hit 150' jumps easy on my 2-fiddy bro, you're full of shit bro, prove it bro, I own you bro.

Your post actually made me lol, even though I'm clearly the Vitard you're talking about.

I wasn't bragging either, I didn't hit it from the corner so any idiot can do that. I was making the point that a 250F wrung out in 3rd or 4th is capable of jumping things that totally contradict the OP's explanation. Yes I also understand his bike isn't running right, which is the whole point. 

He's all over the place, you can't deny that. Yeah I bet something is a little off with his bike, and that sucks for him, of course. But his explanation made MANY experienced guys go hmmmmmmm something ain't adding up. 

It's an internet forum, this is what we do. I bet each and every guy on this thread, myself included, would totally help this guy out if he came over at the track and said hey my bike feels weird can you help me out?

We all give each crap on here 24/7 but not ONCE have I ever seen a thread about some argument when any Vitard has met another one in real life. 

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Your post actually made me lol, even though I'm clearly the Vitard you're talking about. I wasn't bragging either, I didn't hit it from the corner...

Your post actually made me lol, even though I'm clearly the Vitard you're talking about.

I wasn't bragging either, I didn't hit it from the corner so any idiot can do that. I was making the point that a 250F wrung out in 3rd or 4th is capable of jumping things that totally contradict the OP's explanation. Yes I also understand his bike isn't running right, which is the whole point. 

He's all over the place, you can't deny that. Yeah I bet something is a little off with his bike, and that sucks for him, of course. But his explanation made MANY experienced guys go hmmmmmmm something ain't adding up. 

It's an internet forum, this is what we do. I bet each and every guy on this thread, myself included, would totally help this guy out if he came over at the track and said hey my bike feels weird can you help me out?

We all give each crap on here 24/7 but not ONCE have I ever seen a thread about some argument when any Vitard has met another one in real life. 

So you think it’sok to be an utter asshole as long as it’s from behind a screen. 

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Nathaniel129 wrote:
Your post actually made me lol, even though I'm clearly the Vitard you're talking about. I wasn't bragging either, I didn't hit it from the corner...

Your post actually made me lol, even though I'm clearly the Vitard you're talking about.

I wasn't bragging either, I didn't hit it from the corner so any idiot can do that. I was making the point that a 250F wrung out in 3rd or 4th is capable of jumping things that totally contradict the OP's explanation. Yes I also understand his bike isn't running right, which is the whole point. 

He's all over the place, you can't deny that. Yeah I bet something is a little off with his bike, and that sucks for him, of course. But his explanation made MANY experienced guys go hmmmmmmm something ain't adding up. 

It's an internet forum, this is what we do. I bet each and every guy on this thread, myself included, would totally help this guy out if he came over at the track and said hey my bike feels weird can you help me out?

We all give each crap on here 24/7 but not ONCE have I ever seen a thread about some argument when any Vitard has met another one in real life. 

soggy wrote:

So you think it’sok to be an utter asshole as long as it’s from behind a screen. 

Lol, exactly just be the same person. No matter what. You hear that alot, he is alot different in person. Be two different people online,in person is weird. Just a online excuse
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I keep coming back to this thread to see if the mystery has been solved?  OP…any updates?

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731chopper 3/10/2023 7:23am
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It’s got to be the clutch.

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Nathaniel129 3/10/2023 8:27am
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soggy wrote:

So you think it’sok to be an utter asshole as long as it’s from behind a screen. 

Nope, not at all. Here's my first response...asshole? Not for me to decide...

"I hate to be THAT guy here, but you're saying local average B rider....and hitting a jump wide open in 4th? You understand guys are hitting jumps like Larocco's Leap probably at the top of 3rd or maybe clicking 4th on the ramp.

You say you're experienced, and I believe you, but if the whole wide open in 4th thing is true, then yeah I'd say something is wrong with that bike."

My entire point AFTER that was in regards to his "I was at 85% RPM in 4th gear" thing. Which is, for me, where it went from "that's weird" to "something isn't adding up"

Then he kind of went off the rails and got super defensive. So I tried to give an example of what that speed is in reality, and it's not a 50 foot jump.

Did I get too involved and bent, yes lol.

Bottom line is I hope the dude figures the bike out, but asking for help on the internet when your info doesn't line up isn't really going to get you the help you need. 

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lumpy790 3/10/2023 8:55am
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Simple answer.

Do a dyno run with it and it will tell you everything you need to know.

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mb 3/11/2023 5:56pm
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Decel pop = lean.  Bogging on start =lean. Also means clutch is holding otherwise it wouldn’t be enough load on the engine to bog it.
Guy with the fuel injector post is probably spot on.

 

At the end of the day it’s a brand new bike, take it back to your dealer and let them sort it out. 

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bump_start 3/11/2023 10:58pm
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This thread sounds like a beginner getting advice from a bunch of mid pack C riders!

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bump_start 3/11/2023 11:16pm
3/11/2023 11:16pm Edited Date/Time 3/11/2023 11:18pm
BeefyMcWhatnow wrote:
I will preface this by saying I'm not very savvy in the bike maintenance department so I really have no idea what's going on. I've been...

I will preface this by saying I'm not very savvy in the bike maintenance department so I really have no idea what's going on. I've been riding 250fs for about 8 years and the one I just bought seems off.. *YES I did put it on the aggressive map*

 

I've just recently bought a 2023 yz250f, broke it in for a few hours on some trails, changed oil and filters, and took it to the track. The very first thing I noticed, is the bike feels oddly slow? I noticed this after watching a guy with the exact same bike as me grease this uphill triple with 0 issue, no seat bounce, didn't hit the turn that quick, just easily made it over. Now, when I go for it, I'm hitting the corner as fast as I possibly can, shifting to 4th and I'm literally riding the throttle stop screaming all the way up the face and give it a huge huck off the lip and I'm not even clearing the jump. I only weigh 175, and the bike is literally brand new? I also noticed the bike would backfire when under deceleration when going down the hills, don't really know if that's relevant or not. I'm your average local B rider, not insanely fast but I can tell the difference between a fault in the bike and me just sucking. 

 

Anybody ever experience something similar and what was the fix? I'm completely confident it's the bike, I even went out of my way to take my 2021 kx250 to the same track and I was hitting the triple easily. 

OP, you’re not a b rider at the local level or any level. These are not B level questions, b level thought processing, or b level explanations. I was suspicious after reading the original post, you confirmed my suspicions with each reply you made. Let me help you out.

 

Hey guys I’m new to riding and just financed my first bike. Im not sure if it’s me or the bike but I’m having issues jumping small tabletops that my friend who’s been riding 2 months longer than me can clear with no problem. The bike is making this real fast loud popping  sound and seems really slow when my throttle is so far wide open that my elbow is pointing forward. I can’t seem to get enough speed in 3rd gear to get the back wheel off the ground over singles. I think it’s the bike but just hoping for any help or suggestions. Thanks for the help.

Hey OP, learn how to ride your motorcycle. It takes time so be patient and you will be shifting gears and getting sweet air in no time.

                      With all due respect,

                                            - Vital Mx

 

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