How did we get where we are as a country?

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2/19/2023 1:53pm
SEEMEFIRST wrote:

Yeah, how about CNN, MSNBC,et al going on for years about the Steele Dossier?

Guess that doesn't count. 

It will be interesting going forward now that Twitter can not manipulate the truth and help spread misinformation. Twitter influenced the last election more then Russia could ever hope to.

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I call BS on your last sentence.  The people who were for the Tax Code Reform for the 1 percent are the ones the light shone...

I call BS on your last sentence.  The people who were for the Tax Code Reform for the 1 percent are the ones the light shone brightest on for me.   The rest of us are now paying for yet another totally unnecessary transference of wealth that the middle class gets to pay for.   

Let's shine a light on two GOP pillars of honesty https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/2022/09/06/fact-check-ppp-loans-forgiven-republicans-matt-gaetz-marjorie-taylor-greene/65470173007/ Matt Goetz and MTG for the way they played the Covid money.

jchek779 wrote:
Here are some numbers from 2020 Tax Year Data -  The top 1% account for 42% of all individual federal income tax revenue. The top 25%...

Here are some numbers from 2020 Tax Year Data - 

The top 1% account for 42% of all individual federal income tax revenue.

The top 25% account for 88% of all individual federal income tax revenue.

The top 50% account for 97.7% of all individual income tax revenue.

Where in that data lies your oppression?

That's not fair jcheck. You answered political propaganda with facts. You're not supposed to bring a bat to a pillow fight.

Awaiting the response.

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borg, he's not familiar with the rules when dealing with clowns like Leave Us Alone. Facts are like kryptonite to people of his ilk.Wink

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I call BS on your last sentence.  The people who were for the Tax Code Reform for the 1 percent are the ones the light shone...

I call BS on your last sentence.  The people who were for the Tax Code Reform for the 1 percent are the ones the light shone brightest on for me.   The rest of us are now paying for yet another totally unnecessary transference of wealth that the middle class gets to pay for.   

Let's shine a light on two GOP pillars of honesty https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/2022/09/06/fact-check-ppp-loans-forgiven-republicans-matt-gaetz-marjorie-taylor-greene/65470173007/ Matt Goetz and MTG for the way they played the Covid money.

jchek779 wrote:
Here are some numbers from 2020 Tax Year Data -  The top 1% account for 42% of all individual federal income tax revenue. The top 25%...

Here are some numbers from 2020 Tax Year Data - 

The top 1% account for 42% of all individual federal income tax revenue.

The top 25% account for 88% of all individual federal income tax revenue.

The top 50% account for 97.7% of all individual income tax revenue.

Where in that data lies your oppression?

borg wrote:

That's not fair jcheck. You answered political propaganda with facts. You're not supposed to bring a bat to a pillow fight.

Awaiting the response.

Of course the rich pay all of the taxes, they're the only ones who can afford to. Hilarious how dudes making less than $50/hour believe that somehow the redistribution of wealth over the last 40 years is fair capitalism. Except for a few of you, you are all their bitches. But you can treat those suckers making $15/hour like they are YOUR bitches can't you? Bunch of pretend ballers. 

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2/20/2023 12:48am
ElliotB16 wrote:

Social media threw gas on the fire. More people are in the middle than CNN and Fox News want you to know. 

moto162 wrote:

Then CNN wants you to believe. 

Ok, but this is known. I haven’t looked it up in some years but even during the Trump years it was reported that ~40% were registered democrats and ~30% were registered republicans. 
 

that isn’t a massive difference  

When you consider the liberal onslaught, school, news, entertainment they must be wondering what they are doing wrong. 
 

I think they believe what they are pushing and are not even trying to figure out why more people aren’t registered democrats/ fewer registered republicans. 
 

They hope you don’t know the above stats. 
 

 

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2/20/2023 12:55am Edited Date/Time 2/20/2023 12:55am
And by design... @ 10:21    

And by design...

@ 10:21

 

 

borg wrote:
Peter Hitchens seemed to have evolved in a similar way as did his older brother. Peter and Christopher grew out of the Marxist/Socialist mentality when it...

Peter Hitchens seemed to have evolved in a similar way as did his older brother. Peter and Christopher grew out of the Marxist/Socialist mentality when it became obvious that they had been wrong about so many things for far too long. Some people learn the wrong lesson from this. In my view Christopher learned that no matter how ardently you believe in something, you can still be wrong. Peter just jumped from one extreme to another. Doing exactly what he said he never did which is to follow the crowd.

But the lesson from this is that the more you think you are right, the less chance anybody has of reaching you with an alternative view. In my opinion, the left is the biggest offender in this regard and the evidence for this is that many times, they work to silence their opponents rather than converse. 

 

They have been given the answer: social justice based on empathy. 
 

They have closed their answer off and anyone who questioned it is a bigot/ racist. They can even employ bigotry/ racism to defend their answer. 
 

This is a well documented technique. In the Bible Paul fenced off his beliefs and said other beliefs are false and not to be supported. 
 

Muslims know the answer, the Koran, so you are wrong. 

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2/20/2023 1:00am Edited Date/Time 2/20/2023 1:02am
Guess you missed the news this week that ALL of the talking heads at Fox News except Lou Dobbs knew there was no election fraud that...

Guess you missed the news this week that ALL of the talking heads at Fox News except Lou Dobbs knew there was no election fraud that affected the outcome of the 2020 election.

Must suck to have been a Fox views for years only to find out even they didn't believe what "they were selling."

str8line wrote:

Trumptards LOVE conspiracies. Anything they can be pissed about is fair game, true or not. Some wacky shit.

Since Trump’s presidency to now liberals have been constantly outraged in order to do away with Trump. 
 

Give me any liberal generated outrage about Trump that was actually true. 

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2/20/2023 1:04am
SEEMEFIRST wrote:

Yeah, how about CNN, MSNBC,et al going on for years about the Steele Dossier?

Guess that doesn't count. 

It will be interesting going forward now that Twitter can not manipulate the truth and help spread misinformation. Twitter influenced the last election more then Russia...

It will be interesting going forward now that Twitter can not manipulate the truth and help spread misinformation. Twitter influenced the last election more then Russia could ever hope to.

The EU is trying to get Twitter under control. 
 

Not sure how the U.S. government feels but assume they support EU actions. 

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2/20/2023 2:18am Edited Date/Time 2/20/2023 2:26am

A lot of America’s problem is that it’s been the most prosperous country since World War 2, really since the turn of the 20th century with the Industrial Revolution (which occurred shortly after Abraham Lincoln proclaimed 2 days of prayer and fasting for the nation which was torn asunder from the Civil War). Fast forward 80 years and America, which was a wealthy and peaceful country has ended up having odd hangups and strange internal divisions. 

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The monetization of division promulgated via major networks and social media.  In other words, turning fear and hate into revenue streams. 

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It’s an extremely long and complicated topic. Believe it or not, I’ve actually researched this topic quite a bit.

To fully grasp it, we would have to go back to Reconstruction. But I’m going to simplify this as much as possible and jump way ahead to the more recent times.

In the 60s, counter culture (aka hippies) were met with an opposition of a more conservative law and order candidate in Richard Nixon. However, Nixon was still progressive and did many things that counter culture agreed with. Nobody since has eclipsed his popular vote margin of victory in 1972.

It was Reagan, however, that took this to a whole new level. Resonating with the people in campaigns saying that you should have full control of your own lives, not the elite in DC. Pushing back against the progressive legislation that was seen by many as government overreach. But it’s not that simple. He was able to unite the following groups of people into one massive coalition:

Small government

Law and order

Military expansion for security

Tough on USSR

Evangelicals

Pro Life

Other political philosophies also gravitated to him due to rampant inflation, and the economy is a deciding factor in elections.

This was the Reagan Revolution. Democrats prior to him were often more progressive. After Reagan shifted the political paradigm to the right significantly, Democrats had to adjust themselves. Democrats after him (New Democrats) shifted themselves to the center so they could still be seen as politically acceptable. It worked, as they have only lost one popular vote for POTUS since 88.

Biden is the furthest left POTUS Democrats have had post Reagan. And he’s still disliked strongly by the true left. The progressives. As with any progressive movements ever in the history of our nation, there’s natural pullback on the conservative side. It’s unfortunately just how it always will be. This is the first big progressive movement in which social media and the internet are huge, so it’s extrapolated. Both parties are more alike than they are different. Domestic social issues are the thing they disagree on the most. Everything else … They’re very similar. Party switches can happen very easily when they’re that close. It has happened before and it can happen again.

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I call BS on your last sentence.  The people who were for the Tax Code Reform for the 1 percent are the ones the light shone...

I call BS on your last sentence.  The people who were for the Tax Code Reform for the 1 percent are the ones the light shone brightest on for me.   The rest of us are now paying for yet another totally unnecessary transference of wealth that the middle class gets to pay for.   

Let's shine a light on two GOP pillars of honesty https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/2022/09/06/fact-check-ppp-loans-forgiven-republicans-matt-gaetz-marjorie-taylor-greene/65470173007/ Matt Goetz and MTG for the way they played the Covid money.

jchek779 wrote:
Here are some numbers from 2020 Tax Year Data -  The top 1% account for 42% of all individual federal income tax revenue. The top 25%...

Here are some numbers from 2020 Tax Year Data - 

The top 1% account for 42% of all individual federal income tax revenue.

The top 25% account for 88% of all individual federal income tax revenue.

The top 50% account for 97.7% of all individual income tax revenue.

Where in that data lies your oppression?

Where in your data does any of it apply to oppression?  Nowhere.

I didn't say anything about oppression only stated the fact that the 99 perecent are now paying for Trump's Tax Code reform.   You pull statistics that have zero to do with the Tax Code Reform costs and who is paying for it.  

 

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LoudLove wrote:

The monetization of division promulgated via major networks and social media.  In other words, turning fear and hate into revenue streams. 

And this is what Tucker's texts and e mails revealed along with the other talking heads at Fox.  He was worried about the stock price and wanted a colleague fired for fact checking one of Fox's bogus election claims.

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"divide and conquer" and it's working pretty damn well. 

 

"Unite and build" is gone....

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rucka356 wrote:

Dirty politicians and greed

Thread.

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We took Mom out of the home and made her work. Now the children are raised by those with no vested interest in them and are indoctrinating them.

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Why can't humans get along? Asks the species with thousands of years of history of not getting along.

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That wasn’t the question. 

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FU2 wrote:

"divide and conquer" and it's working pretty damn well. 

 

"Unite and build" is gone....

And how surprising "many fine people on both sides" and "Mexico is sending us rapists and murderers" didn't unite America.

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Muttly wrote:
We took Mom out of the home and made her work. Now the children are raised by those with no vested interest in them and are...

We took Mom out of the home and made her work. Now the children are raised by those with no vested interest in them and are indoctrinating them.

Do you think that the necessity for Mom to work could be due to the ever widening wealth gap and the success of capitalism?  

Capitalism doesn’t care whether Mom stays home to raise the kids or not, as long as there is more money coming in and lower costs being paid out. 

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Because we the people let politicians run the country and can't do anything to fix it without essentially going into another civil war. We can't control our own government, they do as they want, when they want and no regards to the great citizens of this Nation or the Nation itself. They cost us trillions of tax dollars. There really is just to much to even answer the question.
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2/23/2023 7:13am
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Do you think that the necessity for Mom to work could be due to the ever widening wealth gap and the success of capitalism?   Capitalism...

Do you think that the necessity for Mom to work could be due to the ever widening wealth gap and the success of capitalism?  

Capitalism doesn’t care whether Mom stays home to raise the kids or not, as long as there is more money coming in and lower costs being paid out. 

We took the value out of the dollar and made dad's earning power less and less if he was trading his time for money.

 

That same capitalistic system also provides the opportunities for empowered members of society with the balls and vision to do something with their lives to create opportunities for mom to go to work and not even have to get out her pajamas.

www.hiremymom.com

The world keeps turning and doesn't give 2 fucks about your feelings for what should/shouldn't.  Evolve and adapt or get left behind fellas.

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I was going to vote for Obama but then he told all the criminals and thugs that they were allowed to act up because  "some were not treated fairly" and told all the rudest and criminal minded that they could treat cops and anyone in authority badly with no consequences. No one knew they were allowed to cuss out any authority without punishment but Obama told them and from that day people got very bold and we started having the worst riots in history daily since that very moment. Then a bunch of cops got executed and Obama invited the bloods or crips to the whitehouse " to discuss "why" so ok now the public asks Obama to now have the families of the slain cops to the Whitehouse and he said NO.  Then during the Comemerative speech to the graduating class where not a single negative word has been spoken in history because it is to send a positive word to the next graduating generation of leaders but Michelle said that she knows she wakes up everyday in a house built by slaves and that any bad thing in every person's life can lead back to a white man. That was very sad to hear in a time for unity and peace and for progress. The country went straight downhill from then on. Riots, Looting and just total rudeness became the lefts stance on life and although we had 2 years of healing and prosperity, people fought tooth and nail to end that progress because its not their team and then the pandemic put the nail in it. 

I'm not sticking up for cops either as I have seen the worst corruption possible on 3 occasions with my own eyes that are unforgivable but the good ones are needed. 

As a person that lived on an island with no tv and had no political stance or side I did all my own research with no influences. I imagined I was a Democrat because of what they claim they are about but that was a huge lie, I don't follow a lot of the rights ideas either and they have issues I can't get with but you can look on youtube and see thousands and thousands of videos of the left lieing, stealing, cheating, killing, looting, rioting, constant freaking out on minor disagreements, fits, acting out, destroying property.  But you only have Jan. 6 for the right and yes there are a lot of idiots on both sides and personally I think people that go to these rallies on either side are a bit kookoo but if you get in an argument with a righty they are most likely going to say agree to disagree and go separate ways but the majority of the left will go nuts and want to ruin your life if you disagree about the most trivial of subjects.  100 percent of gang members vote one way. 99 percent of prisons vote one way. If you ask around the globe what the most corrupt city is, Chicago is on top of most lists as the most politically corrupt so one could assume that to get to the top of politics in Chicago you probably are not squeaky clean and look who came up there. 

Why is it that the leaders of the most dirty, homeless and destroyed cities are the richest of all the politicians? Because they don't get rich when things are good, they get rich off the subsidies given to help the poverty but it goes in their pockets. It's ctually genius but evil. 

I also don't understand why poor people seem to vote against their best interest. History shows that the deficit does get better during a Democrat leader and that is their rally cry but folks that happens because our taxes get raised each time making the deficit better but our lives a lot harder "but but but the deficit." 

You can think I'm racist because I called out Obama but no one has ever called or thought that of me. Shit I write half my posts sitting next to my black besties, one flaming, a flaming mexican, my Philippino bestie and my wife's bestie who is black and a couple super white vikings all day every day and they all echo my thoughts. Lol There is no victims here only free thinkers.

We all believe Obama had the ultimate opportunity to right history and help unite us all but he did the opposite unfortunately.

Destroying all that sacred land in Hawaii for his mansion against the Hawain peoples beliefs is just another example. 

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The internet caused all the problems.....and so help me, if you disagree with me I will start a new peacock thread everyday. See,?

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rucka356 wrote:

Dirty politicians and greed

Yes. But dirty politicians don’t wander onto the battlefield. They along with there family, live. Long after war is done…….Zelensky will be whisked out of Ukraine to Florida as soon as it becomes evident that he will lose this war. Meanwhile all his supporters in the Ukraine will be turned into compost/dirt.  

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Muttly wrote:
We took Mom out of the home and made her work. Now the children are raised by those with no vested interest in them and are...

We took Mom out of the home and made her work. Now the children are raised by those with no vested interest in them and are indoctrinating them.

APLMAN99 wrote:
Do you think that the necessity for Mom to work could be due to the ever widening wealth gap and the success of capitalism?   Capitalism...

Do you think that the necessity for Mom to work could be due to the ever widening wealth gap and the success of capitalism?  

Capitalism doesn’t care whether Mom stays home to raise the kids or not, as long as there is more money coming in and lower costs being paid out. 

Wouldn’t blame Capitalism as much as Corporate Greed. The cost of living has increased so much, that the family 50 years ago where only Dad worked, had more expandable income, than todays Dad and Mom both work households. 

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FLmxer wrote:
I was going to vote for Obama but then he told all the criminals and thugs that they were allowed to act up because  "some were...

I was going to vote for Obama but then he told all the criminals and thugs that they were allowed to act up because  "some were not treated fairly" and told all the rudest and criminal minded that they could treat cops and anyone in authority badly with no consequences. No one knew they were allowed to cuss out any authority without punishment but Obama told them and from that day people got very bold and we started having the worst riots in history daily since that very moment. Then a bunch of cops got executed and Obama invited the bloods or crips to the whitehouse " to discuss "why" so ok now the public asks Obama to now have the families of the slain cops to the Whitehouse and he said NO.  Then during the Comemerative speech to the graduating class where not a single negative word has been spoken in history because it is to send a positive word to the next graduating generation of leaders but Michelle said that she knows she wakes up everyday in a house built by slaves and that any bad thing in every person's life can lead back to a white man. That was very sad to hear in a time for unity and peace and for progress. The country went straight downhill from then on. Riots, Looting and just total rudeness became the lefts stance on life and although we had 2 years of healing and prosperity, people fought tooth and nail to end that progress because its not their team and then the pandemic put the nail in it. 

I'm not sticking up for cops either as I have seen the worst corruption possible on 3 occasions with my own eyes that are unforgivable but the good ones are needed. 

As a person that lived on an island with no tv and had no political stance or side I did all my own research with no influences. I imagined I was a Democrat because of what they claim they are about but that was a huge lie, I don't follow a lot of the rights ideas either and they have issues I can't get with but you can look on youtube and see thousands and thousands of videos of the left lieing, stealing, cheating, killing, looting, rioting, constant freaking out on minor disagreements, fits, acting out, destroying property.  But you only have Jan. 6 for the right and yes there are a lot of idiots on both sides and personally I think people that go to these rallies on either side are a bit kookoo but if you get in an argument with a righty they are most likely going to say agree to disagree and go separate ways but the majority of the left will go nuts and want to ruin your life if you disagree about the most trivial of subjects.  100 percent of gang members vote one way. 99 percent of prisons vote one way. If you ask around the globe what the most corrupt city is, Chicago is on top of most lists as the most politically corrupt so one could assume that to get to the top of politics in Chicago you probably are not squeaky clean and look who came up there. 

Why is it that the leaders of the most dirty, homeless and destroyed cities are the richest of all the politicians? Because they don't get rich when things are good, they get rich off the subsidies given to help the poverty but it goes in their pockets. It's ctually genius but evil. 

I also don't understand why poor people seem to vote against their best interest. History shows that the deficit does get better during a Democrat leader and that is their rally cry but folks that happens because our taxes get raised each time making the deficit better but our lives a lot harder "but but but the deficit." 

You can think I'm racist because I called out Obama but no one has ever called or thought that of me. Shit I write half my posts sitting next to my black besties, one flaming, a flaming mexican, my Philippino bestie and my wife's bestie who is black and a couple super white vikings all day every day and they all echo my thoughts. Lol There is no victims here only free thinkers.

We all believe Obama had the ultimate opportunity to right history and help unite us all but he did the opposite unfortunately.

Destroying all that sacred land in Hawaii for his mansion against the Hawain peoples beliefs is just another example. 

100% correct I saw it happening when Obama took office. The blacks on the s side Chicago became a lot more violent. They felt like they where used by Obama. There life didn’t change 1 bit. The people shot where much higher than the war we where in. They started shooting  rail rd truckers. After the 9th trk being shot up I stopped counting.  Today a lot of truckers r shot at Americans don’t care. As soon as Columbus landed on American soil he made 6 Indians his servants- slaves. A law was passed to murder every Indian. Ovr 90 mil women& children where murdered by sword the men where shot. 1492 to the early 1900,s this continued. You would think it wouldn’t hv taken that long being that the Indians didn’t hv any guns until the end. But sat night I hit some bars. 1 bar I walked in I see a lot of Indians , Mexicans a mix of others Asians. I was joking with a couple blacks I know. Within 5 min the Mexicans started racist crap with the Indians. The Indian women started knocking out the Mexican women. About 50 of them then went outside on the sidewalk & in the st. The Indian women where knocking them out left& rt. After a few Mexican women got ko,d big time. They still kept yelling racist crap. The Indian women kept knocking them out. A group was chased across the st and ko,d. The Indians where out numbered . 1 ko,d a Mexican her head bounced off the concrete like the others. Then she backed up & let it out - trash talking . Telling them I,ll knock all you blank repeated, etc. I never heard trash talk like that since 86 traveling.  Once you see it you figure it out , that’s why it took so long to get control of them & get the land. None of the men fought the Indian men where smaller 5,9 not 6,5+ like a lot of them around here. Oneida Indians where America,s 1st ally . GW promised they could keep there 6 mil acres in Ny. They ended up with 32 acres then told to move to Oneida Wi. The Indians fought diff coming out sweeping angles threw the hills etc . Far superior to raising a gun with soldiers in a straight line. 

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FLmxer wrote:
I was going to vote for Obama but then he told all the criminals and thugs that they were allowed to act up because  "some were...

I was going to vote for Obama but then he told all the criminals and thugs that they were allowed to act up because  "some were not treated fairly" and told all the rudest and criminal minded that they could treat cops and anyone in authority badly with no consequences. No one knew they were allowed to cuss out any authority without punishment but Obama told them and from that day people got very bold and we started having the worst riots in history daily since that very moment. Then a bunch of cops got executed and Obama invited the bloods or crips to the whitehouse " to discuss "why" so ok now the public asks Obama to now have the families of the slain cops to the Whitehouse and he said NO.  Then during the Comemerative speech to the graduating class where not a single negative word has been spoken in history because it is to send a positive word to the next graduating generation of leaders but Michelle said that she knows she wakes up everyday in a house built by slaves and that any bad thing in every person's life can lead back to a white man. That was very sad to hear in a time for unity and peace and for progress. The country went straight downhill from then on. Riots, Looting and just total rudeness became the lefts stance on life and although we had 2 years of healing and prosperity, people fought tooth and nail to end that progress because its not their team and then the pandemic put the nail in it. 

I'm not sticking up for cops either as I have seen the worst corruption possible on 3 occasions with my own eyes that are unforgivable but the good ones are needed. 

As a person that lived on an island with no tv and had no political stance or side I did all my own research with no influences. I imagined I was a Democrat because of what they claim they are about but that was a huge lie, I don't follow a lot of the rights ideas either and they have issues I can't get with but you can look on youtube and see thousands and thousands of videos of the left lieing, stealing, cheating, killing, looting, rioting, constant freaking out on minor disagreements, fits, acting out, destroying property.  But you only have Jan. 6 for the right and yes there are a lot of idiots on both sides and personally I think people that go to these rallies on either side are a bit kookoo but if you get in an argument with a righty they are most likely going to say agree to disagree and go separate ways but the majority of the left will go nuts and want to ruin your life if you disagree about the most trivial of subjects.  100 percent of gang members vote one way. 99 percent of prisons vote one way. If you ask around the globe what the most corrupt city is, Chicago is on top of most lists as the most politically corrupt so one could assume that to get to the top of politics in Chicago you probably are not squeaky clean and look who came up there. 

Why is it that the leaders of the most dirty, homeless and destroyed cities are the richest of all the politicians? Because they don't get rich when things are good, they get rich off the subsidies given to help the poverty but it goes in their pockets. It's ctually genius but evil. 

I also don't understand why poor people seem to vote against their best interest. History shows that the deficit does get better during a Democrat leader and that is their rally cry but folks that happens because our taxes get raised each time making the deficit better but our lives a lot harder "but but but the deficit." 

You can think I'm racist because I called out Obama but no one has ever called or thought that of me. Shit I write half my posts sitting next to my black besties, one flaming, a flaming mexican, my Philippino bestie and my wife's bestie who is black and a couple super white vikings all day every day and they all echo my thoughts. Lol There is no victims here only free thinkers.

We all believe Obama had the ultimate opportunity to right history and help unite us all but he did the opposite unfortunately.

Destroying all that sacred land in Hawaii for his mansion against the Hawain peoples beliefs is just another example. 

You spelled “corrupt” wong. 🤣

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Muttly wrote:
Wouldn’t blame Capitalism as much as Corporate Greed. The cost of living has increased so much, that the family 50 years ago where only Dad worked...

Wouldn’t blame Capitalism as much as Corporate Greed. The cost of living has increased so much, that the family 50 years ago where only Dad worked, had more expandable income, than todays Dad and Mom both work households. 

That’s an important distinction that gets glossed over in this discussions often  . Capitalism and corporate greed I mean . Different things . 

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