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What it means is we're all going to be screwed.....because they'll get their pound of flesh no matter what you do.
EV/ebikes.... just another carrot/stick deal.
Wonder what they have learned from Freeride to put a pause (not a stop) on E bikes
I haven't been paying attention because I'm on 1.0, but yes it sounds like any overproduction credits will be worth less than they are now which is pennies on the dollar. I oversized my solar system to plan for future use, so in my first year of production I was really efficient (traveled a lot too) so I had about $800 worth of overproduction a month before the true up date. Or so I thought. Luckily I called Edison to inquire, because when I asked how I would be getting my $800 worth of credit they informed me it was going to be more like $60. After learning that potential screw job, I told the the power company all you guys are doing is encouraging inefficiency and waste because no way in hell I'm going to sell you my excess for $60 and let you profit $740 by giving it to my neighbor....so I turned on everything and burned the shit up and gave them nothing.
I told them it's now a lose-lose situation instead of a win-win. If they paid me wholesale rates and split it with me 50% then okay, but no one is going to give them $800 worth of electricity for $60.
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We oversized too for future planning...but not that much. $800 a month is WAY over! lol I believe if you're on NEM 1.0 you had your installation prior to 11/2017. NEM 2.0 if after....ours was installed in 2018.
The ROI will be about 6 years for us..... it's been nice not having to pay for any electricity for the last 5 years.
Like everything else, they're going to f**k us.
I wish it was $800 per month...it was $800 for the year. Yes, I squeaked in before November 2017. Like your system, mine pays itself off next year.
And the folks with influence, hikers and equestrian, want to shut them both down on public trails.
Wait-a-tick?!
Do I have some fellow physics geeks ‘round h’yar?
Geek, yes, literacy beyond concepts not so much. Pop - an old school slide rule math savant, engineered refineries and processes for Standard Oil/Chevron - must have created a generation skipping trust for his math genes, because they skipped me and went to my kids.
And their lawyers of course....
I just watched the video. Why would you say the technology is not there yet? They were happy with the performance and range, it’s just more expensive at the moment compared to its ICE variant.
Compared to a Street Triple it was 10% heavier, had the same power and a range of 100 miles.
They did the clever thing: Develop a technology demonstrator, but not invest in a production line yet. When the market demands electric bikes, they have the technology ready and something to show to investors.
I have solar and a Tesla in Southern CA.
I can charge the Tesla off peak and it's free - In fact, we sell so much power back to the utility that they owe us over 800.00 in credits as of last billing.
I paid a little more and got the largest solar system that would fit on my roof. 17.5KW, and it's paying off for sure...
Yes...we "sell" to them on our production too. It's a pittance to what they charge you for using their energy.
...and what they are paying you will drop as rates go up. You will be protected for a while with a huge system. As mentioned earlier, we oversized ours for "future proofing"....but as it turns out that won't be enough for very long.
You…..how much faster will the average guy go on the Stark over similar gas bikes? You seem to think it will be 5-10 seconds a lap on a short Mx track. Actually the way you speak you might think it’s even a more absurd number. I think a big competitor will have a bike out before Stark gets going and they’ll be smooshed before the next model gets developed. They should have done $1,000 deposits to weed out the riff raft. Seems bizarre they relocated to a new factory and upgraded all kinds of equipment based on demand from $100 orders…….
Brent, be very careful if you are with SCE. Even if SDG&E, you will most likely get $60-80 for your $800 credit you think you are getting back. Make sure to check with them a month or two before your true up date, and if they tell you that you'll only be getting $60-$80 (or even less now) then you can turn on everything and burn it all up. Unless of course you want to let them profit $750 by taking your excess power and selling it to your neighbors.
Is there a contract rate for how they value that power at the true up date?
Yeah I got warned about the true billing thing - I don't totally understand it yet but I guess it comes up every year. I need to look into the details.
My first year with the system is up in June, so prior to that I plan on running the A/C and pool pumps 24/7 to eat up the "credit"
I really never expected to get money back from SCE anyway, I'm just happy I don't pay the utility 950.00 a month during summer like I used to, not to mention the car re-charge cost is covered...
You have the right idea to burn it all up because whatever they are willing to give you for it is pennies on the dollar. This is unfortunate because the power companies are encouraging waste and inefficiency as I have zero motivation to turn the lights off. If they paid me a decent rate for my power I would be much more efficient but they are super greedy and want to take huge profits from the solar system I paid for.
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Yes there is but it's pennies on the dollar and I don't even know what mine is because I don't bother trying to conserve anymore after I learned what SCE wanted to pay me for my first year's excess power I generated. Now every year I just make sure to burn all my excess before the true up date so I can break even.
Even then, for someone who's solar system covers 100% of their needs, they still want to charge approximately $15/month for a "connection fee" to be tied into the grid.
This has been going on since the 1960's in the U.S. Across the U.S.
It's not just about the noise. It's about control. Always has been and always will be. Noise is a convenient excuse.
Noise didn't cause the Sierra Club to have the government close down the desert.
Those who refuse to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Europeans should be the first to say this.
Spot on. You'd think Euro's would know better.
Found this today.... speaking of history....1979
I don’t believe they want your solar power on the grid. They claim it cost more to manage and maintain the grid. As for NEM 3.0 I believe the kicker is for every KW you install they charge $5 per month service fee on top of the standard service fee. Oh and talk about no gas appliances. I believe gas generators are also getting the axe in California. Shit sounds fishy.
It’s not a green conspiracy here: in Central Europe landuse is naturally controlled by the authorities. Always has, long before green parties existed. If you want to turn your field into a track, you need to apply for it. Even if you want to turn your piece of forest into grassland you need permission.
That comes with a high population density: Your freedom ends where mine begins. Or: if your farting fourstroke disturbs the neighbors, no permit.
Don’t be absurd. I reckon the difference for the average rider with bad technique and bad timing will be about as big as the difference between twostroke and fourstroke for him.
Like it or not, an eMX bike will outperform the ICE bike. If you can think of one technical reason why not, let me know!
I’ll wait to see tests where they compare lap times. It never pays to try and analyze technically why a bike should perform better. That’s why so many people rely on test articles. For now I’m not seeing the obvious magical performance gains riders will see. Proof will be in the pudding once they get put through the ringer. I can see them sucking in soft soil, sand and mud but I don’t even have a video of one in those conditions to look at. Makes me think there a reason that’s the case. All I can remember is AJ Catanzaro hitting the sand section on the Alta at Club MX and going “whooooa this is horrible in the sand”
Yeah man, I can’t wait to see some riding in sand and so on!
They have addressed the problem of the motor slowing down too fast in deep soil by adding something like electronic inertia. The heavy crankshaft of a fourstroke has the tendency to pull through the heavy stuff. Electric motors (and 125s) don’t have that, but it can be added electronically. Let’s see how well they’ve implemented that.
I don’t know how the Varg turns out, but just from a technical perspective there’s no reason why an ICE bike would be faster on a lap or a moto than an eMX. At least I can’t think of one.
Hold up, $950 a month?? How big is your house?
You don’t want it to be the case so you look for all the reasons to make the Battery powered better on paper. I want them to be inferior in every respect because I can’t stand the idea of battery powered anything being forced upon us. If the Vargs ever arrive I look forward to seeing tests comparisons and long term durability evaluations. I think there will be some letdowns once we see real world long-term testing.
Luckily, physics doesn’t care about what you want or I want.
A motocross bike that needs to last 30 min is THE perfect application for a battery powered vehicle. You‘ll see.
You need to put down your E Bike crack pipe.
And I say that as someone who enjoyed riding a friend's Alta and who looks forward to what the Varg can do.
All you high and mighty electric superiority nonsense is making you look well...dumb.
Give it a rest and let the technology speak for itself.
And a 30 minute dirtbike may be perfect for YOU but is not for ME if i have to lug a gas powered generator around to charge the bike like my buddy with the Alta.
Oh yeah one more thing. You are so clueless about the environmental movement. I guess you're so used to them telling you what you can and can't do . Trust them at your own peril.
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