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11/25/2022 10:17am
We have an issue in amateur racing for the Vet classes. There are guys who ride C class for their whole life. C class is for newer but not beginners. Just looking at people’s ideas to get riders to move up. Even the definition of “Novice” proves my point.


Having a C class championship at Loretta’s, however, doesn’t make sense to me.
A beginner class should be for beginners. I get that some races don't have the capacity to have that as a separate class these days, but it used to be common and welcome.
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And for the record, our C class isn’t what it is in other areas.
Should I start a go fund me like other aspiring talents?
It just comes down to the promoter and race stewards to do their job and grade riders accordingly
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A brand new member's first 2 races are considered "evaluation". They are watched closely and placed in the appropriate class going forward.
We even monitor non-members who occasionally show up. This is probably the hardest issue to deal with, but thanks to our Race Director's hard work, 2022 was probably our best year as far as keeping sandbaggers ("trophy chasers" as we sometimes call them) from ruining what would otherwise be great competitive racing.
With all that said, it is never perfect. There are a few weird people out there that like to game the system as much as possible. I've seen guys blitz a few laps to a massive lead, look around, then slow down accordingly. Then there's guys that want to do a "re-evaluation", where we allow 4 races to reclassify them, but this is typically reserved to folks who have been out awhile due to injury. Or, they want to stay at their skill level then move down an age group or 2... It's always something! However, we do our best to stick to our well laid out rules and be even handed in those decisions.
I'll simply never understand the mentality of sandbaggers. How is one "proud" of racing below their skill? I could never get a sense of accomplishment from that. I bumped myself out of Novice at the beginning of the year after winning my first OTHG National event. I was done! I finished in the back of intermediate the rest of the year and I'm 100% good with it... I'll get faster (well, once my knee is healed...).
Make it make sense
Track official watch’s beg class for guys hitting every jump and scrubing
A, AA and AAA players are all rep players, who
would all be a fair bit better than local house league players. The A baseball player would be one of, or the best player at a houseleague game. Just as a national C class racer would be the fastest, or one of the fastest at a local event (even if they use the C, B and A system).
Local clubs using the C, B and A system are the ones that created the issue of thinking C class is supposed to be a beginner class. Local C class is not comparable to C class in a national event.
*No "C" class contingency, period.
*No local "C" class Champions.
*No "C" classes on amateur day at nationals.
*No "C" classes at any amateur national.
*Strict "point out" or "time out" rules.
*As the "C" class is usually the largest, have a "Win one get moved up" rule.
These things will never happen, but you asked "How to get people out of the "C" class".
That will never happen because it’s too much of a money maker.
Our organising body are quick to identify those who should go up, and grade them so.
It was the organising body that classified riders, not the riders themselves.
I typically only do the District 14 races at RedBud and the 25+ Vetsport class always seems to be packed. Most of the time it is split into two separate motos.
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