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10/8/2022 11:05pm Edited Date/Time 10/9/2022 8:57am
It was great for an off-season race. World Championship? No. I did really enjoy how action packed the Mains were with the back to back races. We should do that with triple crowns here. I also love the superpole and have been wishing for that in the AMA series for years. Take the top 5 from each heat and see the top 10 guys lay down their best lap as the only rider on the track.

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10/8/2022 11:53pm
It was pretty bad.
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I really hope Eli made a lot of money.
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The worst part of all of it was being so desperate for talent that they would let a couple of 40 year olds go out there and nearly killed themselves in front of their family. That’s total bullshit.
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My only minor winge =
What is it with the fans (not sure if it's a British thing) as soon as the checkered flag dropped, alot of people made a dart for the exit,they probably didn't save any significant time.
Would of been nice to stay put and show some appreciation to the riders

O and £6.50 a pint, 😢



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Rotaholic wrote:
I wish everyone would park their egos for a minute and just think about the kids. How fricken cool would it have been to be 10...
I wish everyone would park their egos for a minute and just think about the kids. How fricken cool would it have been to be 10 years old in Wales and seeing Ken Roczen and Eli Tomac throw down right in front of you. Memories for life!
Bingo big picture growing the sport.
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10/9/2022 12:31am
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The worst part of all of it was being so desperate for talent that they would let a couple of 40 year olds go out there...
The worst part of all of it was being so desperate for talent that they would let a couple of 40 year olds go out there and nearly killed themselves in front of their family. That’s total bullshit.
Really , I am sure tens of thousands of people would love meet or see reed race
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After 2023 "supermotocross" we'll see how it looks. Frankly, if Vince got a top 5 with the full field, I wouldn't be absolutely astonished. Is he...
After 2023 "supermotocross" we'll see how it looks. Frankly, if Vince got a top 5 with the full field, I wouldn't be absolutely astonished. Is he top 3 in the world? No. But he definitely doesn't look like the 14-20th place guy he was a few years ago.
he has improved his career at a late age. Cool if he redeems himself
10/9/2022 1:22am Edited Date/Time 10/9/2022 1:23am
I liked it. I'll watch any kind of Motocross or Supercross that I can find, hell I'd watch a local Fair race from Idaho if it was aired. It's got some kinks to work out, but racing is racing to me.
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10/9/2022 1:46am
Wow, I can't most of you guys. I am glad I got to see another race. Look the track etc could of been better. But did nobody see the line up of riders prior to watching the event? Of course it was a B series this time around and will be for some time. But that was very obvious coming into it.

I really am unsure why people expected more. Derek Drake qualified 1st the day before in 250's. Like I think that class was always oldenburgs to lose. But there were no stars. 450's had a couple. But we knew this months ago.

I will say I was happy to see Tomac continue with the dream year. But I will join people with, I did not like the announcers adding wins to his supercross win list. I know Reed had some wins at the old world rounds. Maybe Carmichael and Stew got 1 also. But they werent counting them. But yeah. All that was lame. But the rest, get over it.
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People that are saying that we should enjoy the off season races have really missed the point here. WSX is NOT a off season race just...
People that are saying that we should enjoy the off season races have really missed the point here.

WSX is NOT a off season race just because US has off season now, they are trying to be a legit series with world championship status, and with that goal i will critique them on the performance of that.

Ofc you Britts who went there and saw it live had a good time, i would have to.

But sitting at home, watching the ”World championship” in SX and don’t knowing if i am watching a WSX or Paris Bercy when i see the production is the bad thing here.

It’s like they sold us a Ferarri and we recived a Volvo..
It's good to know a few people actually see the light.
Wink

And Paris is better than this!
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Tumic wrote:
People that are saying that we should enjoy the off season races have really missed the point here. WSX is NOT a off season race just...
People that are saying that we should enjoy the off season races have really missed the point here.

WSX is NOT a off season race just because US has off season now, they are trying to be a legit series with world championship status, and with that goal i will critique them on the performance of that.

Ofc you Britts who went there and saw it live had a good time, i would have to.

But sitting at home, watching the ”World championship” in SX and don’t knowing if i am watching a WSX or Paris Bercy when i see the production is the bad thing here.

It’s like they sold us a Ferarri and we recived a Volvo..
KONG wrote:
It's good to know a few people actually see the light.
Wink

And Paris is better than this!
Laughing
And finally we have the reason why Kong has trolled against this WSX series from the beginning... Because they went against Bercy.

I was there last night and it felt exactly like an off season race. It was fun enough because its racing and racing is fun. The crowd was good. And I liked the fast pace of everything, but the in-stadium information was lacking.

Decent start but plenty to build upon
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And finally we have the reason why Kong has trolled against this WSX series from the beginning... Because they went against Bercy. I was there last...
And finally we have the reason why Kong has trolled against this WSX series from the beginning... Because they went against Bercy.

I was there last night and it felt exactly like an off season race. It was fun enough because its racing and racing is fun. The crowd was good. And I liked the fast pace of everything, but the in-stadium information was lacking.

Decent start but plenty to build upon
Go and watch the broadcast now and see what you think about what we saw on the tv.
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10/9/2022 2:15am
Well that shit show made more than £2million on tickets sales and complaining about a metal ramp, what about the up and over used at every single US supercross? I'm sick of seeing that metal ramp being used. "Oh the camera angles are wrong" maybe the media posts are at different locations with it being a rugby stadium and not a baseball or America throwball stadium. Commercial free supercross. Even with the factorys blocking riders and American fans shitting on it this event 35000 people still payed to watch some vet riders race
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10/9/2022 2:20am Edited Date/Time 10/9/2022 2:21am
ayearinmx wrote:
And finally we have the reason why Kong has trolled against this WSX series from the beginning... Because they went against Bercy. I was there last...
And finally we have the reason why Kong has trolled against this WSX series from the beginning... Because they went against Bercy.

I was there last night and it felt exactly like an off season race. It was fun enough because its racing and racing is fun. The crowd was good. And I liked the fast pace of everything, but the in-stadium information was lacking.

Decent start but plenty to build upon
Oh man, from what I saw, I really don't think Paris is in danger in any way, and for so many reasons...
Laughing

What I didn't like about WSX from the very start is that it's built on snooty lies.
The "preeminent series for the sport of supercross", put together by a "collective of world class masterminds" to "unlock the sports global potential", taking "the sport's elite riders" to "stadiums around the world" for a "pilot season of five races".
At least, now, they're exposed.
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Anyone notice the “tough blocks” 😂😂 [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/10/08/572470/s1200_5EDCE86F_F9F4_4EDD_BF61_90B31CA0249A.jpg[/img]
Anyone notice the “tough blocks” 😂😂
Oh man, I absolutely loved these Ikea tuff blocks flying all over the track whenever a footpeg gave them a little flick...
A perfect symbol of what WSX actually is.
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10/9/2022 2:41am
Rotaholic wrote:
I wish everyone would park their egos for a minute and just think about the kids. How fricken cool would it have been to be 10...
I wish everyone would park their egos for a minute and just think about the kids. How fricken cool would it have been to be 10 years old in Wales and seeing Ken Roczen and Eli Tomac throw down right in front of you. Memories for life!
This is the biggest thing everyone is missing, and i get that the American's that get to go watch Supercross and the best riders in the world somewhere close to home at least once a year are forgetting.

For some people, this was a once-off chance to see Eli and maybe Kenny ever race Supercross live.

I have my 11-year-old begging me to take him over to Melbourne in a couple of weeks to see Kenny race.

This sport is to good to have the whole series based in one country; imagine if MotoGp or F1 was all held in just one country.

If SX is to grow and become global and for these riders to earn what they deserve it needs to become a GLOBAL sport, be it with the current WSX promoters or someone else.

Of course, the powers to be that currently run Supercross in America are not going to be down with that, they have to much to lose and clearly don't have the want to take the series truly Global.

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10/9/2022 3:10am
ayearinmx wrote:
And finally we have the reason why Kong has trolled against this WSX series from the beginning... Because they went against Bercy. I was there last...
And finally we have the reason why Kong has trolled against this WSX series from the beginning... Because they went against Bercy.

I was there last night and it felt exactly like an off season race. It was fun enough because its racing and racing is fun. The crowd was good. And I liked the fast pace of everything, but the in-stadium information was lacking.

Decent start but plenty to build upon
KONG wrote:
Oh man, from what I saw, I really don't think Paris is in danger in any way, and for so many reasons... :laugh: What I didn't...
Oh man, from what I saw, I really don't think Paris is in danger in any way, and for so many reasons...
Laughing

What I didn't like about WSX from the very start is that it's built on snooty lies.
The "preeminent series for the sport of supercross", put together by a "collective of world class masterminds" to "unlock the sports global potential", taking "the sport's elite riders" to "stadiums around the world" for a "pilot season of five races".
At least, now, they're exposed.
You could just fuck off and stop repeating yourself in countless threads day after day, weekly
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I was there, I have to say, I really enjoyed it, OK, so it may of not of been as action packed as ama, but I...
I was there, I have to say, I really enjoyed it, OK, so it may of not of been as action packed as ama, but I thought they put on an all round good display.
for a first event, it was well run

I consider myself lucky to see these pros ride in the flesh
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Have you been to an AMA race? The dozers are on the tracks more than the riders. One of the things this series has actually done...
Have you been to an AMA race? The dozers are on the tracks more than the riders.

One of the things this series has actually done well is fill the 3 hours time.
No I haven't mate and would never get the chance, hence why I jumped at this

They smashed it in that respect, I had to wait longer to take a piss than for the next race to start..
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10/9/2022 3:22am Edited Date/Time 10/9/2022 3:23am
I thought it was great. Cool to hear the track is wider than a typical US SX.
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In the big picture of this sport, this thing has to work. Off road motorcycling is in a perilous position in many countries including the USA. Noise, emissions, real estate pressure, on and on. We need our sport to be internationally accepted. We need industry leaders and politicians to appreciate and be fans of the sport. Our sport of off-road motorcycling is doomed if we don't make a transition from side show dare devils to legitimate athletes in the main stream's eyes.
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My only minor winge = What is it with the fans (not sure if it's a British thing) as soon as the checkered flag dropped, alot...
My only minor winge =
What is it with the fans (not sure if it's a British thing) as soon as the checkered flag dropped, alot of people made a dart for the exit,they probably didn't save any significant time.
Would of been nice to stay put and show some appreciation to the riders

O and £6.50 a pint, 😢



Not going to lie I darted. After the chequered flag but it was because I was bursting for a piss and knew there would be a massive queue
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This is the biggest thing everyone is missing, and i get that the American's that get to go watch Supercross and the best riders in the...
This is the biggest thing everyone is missing, and i get that the American's that get to go watch Supercross and the best riders in the world somewhere close to home at least once a year are forgetting.

For some people, this was a once-off chance to see Eli and maybe Kenny ever race Supercross live.

I have my 11-year-old begging me to take him over to Melbourne in a couple of weeks to see Kenny race.

This sport is to good to have the whole series based in one country; imagine if MotoGp or F1 was all held in just one country.

If SX is to grow and become global and for these riders to earn what they deserve it needs to become a GLOBAL sport, be it with the current WSX promoters or someone else.

Of course, the powers to be that currently run Supercross in America are not going to be down with that, they have to much to lose and clearly don't have the want to take the series truly Global.

Exactly this, it’s ok to have have criticisms but no one should be anti-WSX. This series succeeding is good for the sport as a whole. The thing that’s clear is those that are just full stop anti-WSX seem to be those that already have a supercross come to their state every year and don’t want any of ‘their’ riders to skip the nationals.
It’s small minded and selfish because having thsi 2nd option in the summer benefits the riders who can’t/don’t want to grind outdoors all summer and extends their career, benefits the sport bringing more money into it, benefits world wide fans. The only small majority it hurts are the few die hard American moto fans of said riders who will chose WSX
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10/9/2022 6:06am
Yeah I agree with most of you.. broadcast was horrible but I think a lot of the issues stem from the joke of a track.
They pump god knows how much cash into everything and then dish out that crap???
Whoever designed it should be fired! A 90 degree corner in and out of the whoops?? C’mon that’s always going to be 1 lined and then it had a single line goat trail for another section..
The dirt was shot, bring in some top soil and sand from your local landscape supplies ffs !
Just a heads up, last time they raced at Mel-boooorn the dirt was rock hard and slippery- and it’ll be the second night of racing on it too… sooo probably looking at similar conditions unless they can sort something out.
Congrats to Tomac on his 38th win by the way, passing Dungey now smh !!! Lol
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10/9/2022 7:21am
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Rome wasn't built in a day.

Give it time.
If it wasn't for Eli and Kenny it would have been a pretty weak attempt. The promoters should be paying Eli big for that, he mad...
If it wasn't for Eli and Kenny it would have been a pretty weak attempt. The promoters should be paying Eli big for that, he mad the whole show. With the stance the OEMs have on the series and the lack of premiere talent I don't see it making it very far. Unless it stays in the fall then it has a chance. About the only time I've disagree'd with you Mav
The SERIES not teams threw money at these 2 and apparently couldn’t get Eli for 2 races. Without the “wild cards” there’s no need for qualifying other than gate picks. Did not look like nearly all available seats were taken. Calling this a World Championship is a farce. World Vet SX maybe.
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ayearinmx wrote:
And finally we have the reason why Kong has trolled against this WSX series from the beginning... Because they went against Bercy. I was there last...
And finally we have the reason why Kong has trolled against this WSX series from the beginning... Because they went against Bercy.

I was there last night and it felt exactly like an off season race. It was fun enough because its racing and racing is fun. The crowd was good. And I liked the fast pace of everything, but the in-stadium information was lacking.

Decent start but plenty to build upon
KONG wrote:
Oh man, from what I saw, I really don't think Paris is in danger in any way, and for so many reasons... :laugh: What I didn't...
Oh man, from what I saw, I really don't think Paris is in danger in any way, and for so many reasons...
Laughing

What I didn't like about WSX from the very start is that it's built on snooty lies.
The "preeminent series for the sport of supercross", put together by a "collective of world class masterminds" to "unlock the sports global potential", taking "the sport's elite riders" to "stadiums around the world" for a "pilot season of five races".
At least, now, they're exposed.
Not to mention it never gets past the idea phase without an Arab country “investment firm” needing to “sportswash” a ton of cash.
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"World" series full of our retired guys and second tier guys. I mean the 250 podium was Oldenburg, McElrath and Blose. This isn't actually a World...
"World" series full of our retired guys and second tier guys. I mean the 250 podium was Oldenburg, McElrath and Blose. This isn't actually a World Series. Its a poor attempt from the FIM to try and take down an AMA series because we finally realized their sanctioning is a joke.

I just feel if they had promoted this as an off season series it would have been accepted way better. But all the "world championship" bullshit and even using the results from past supercross races is a complete joke. Definitely isn't helping out with people taking it serious. Metal ramp has to go as well.


edit: I wouldn't call it a shit show though. It just needs to be what it is. Off season races. Honestly doesn't suck to have some racing to watch. Just annoying to hear Ralph and Jeff struggle to get through this broadcast.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion but you couldn't be more wrong its a poor attempt from the FIM to try and take down an AMA series because we finally realized their sanctioning is a joke. Feld passed on renewing the FIM sanctioning after they were presented with 20 to 25 percent sanctioning increase. Horrible timing on the FIM's part to increase their sanctioning fee after two years of Covid impacting our sport.

Does anyone really think the FIM would say no to WSX after Feld passing?

On the world championship naming topic, first world problems IMO and SSDD regarding how "products" are marketed. Look no further than the MLB and their World Series. At least pro football has the decency to call their big show The Superbowl and not the World Superbowl.
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10/9/2022 8:57am Edited Date/Time 10/9/2022 8:58am
aaryn #234 wrote:
This is the biggest thing everyone is missing, and i get that the American's that get to go watch Supercross and the best riders in the...
This is the biggest thing everyone is missing, and i get that the American's that get to go watch Supercross and the best riders in the world somewhere close to home at least once a year are forgetting.

For some people, this was a once-off chance to see Eli and maybe Kenny ever race Supercross live.

I have my 11-year-old begging me to take him over to Melbourne in a couple of weeks to see Kenny race.

This sport is to good to have the whole series based in one country; imagine if MotoGp or F1 was all held in just one country.

If SX is to grow and become global and for these riders to earn what they deserve it needs to become a GLOBAL sport, be it with the current WSX promoters or someone else.

Of course, the powers to be that currently run Supercross in America are not going to be down with that, they have to much to lose and clearly don't have the want to take the series truly Global.

Except this wasn't a race for Eli and Kenny..... this was essentially sand-bagging to them against B-level talent and re-upped retirees. (no disrespect to anyone for their involvement, skill level or age)

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10/9/2022 11:25am Edited Date/Time 10/9/2022 11:26am
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I really hope Eli made a lot of money.
and i really hope....he goes all and show's up at the gate in Melbourne to earn a 4th Titel this season
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