2023 Schedule when is it just too much?

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I will suspect this won't be liked much but 31 events and stretching out the season almost a full 2 months more, at what point is enough enough? Spectators won't mind but what about the racers?

Riders at this level are pushing the limits like never before. They look to off time like any of us who work for a living would. September and October is a time where they can re-boot and then spend a good amount of time in November and December preparing for the next season. This would be family time or just relax after
8 months of racing damn near every weekend.

Running events at the end of a 2 type (Sx-Mx) grueling season only to throw in 3 more events spread out over 6 weeks is pretty interesting concept considering they won't take those weekends off "relaxing" but rather busting their asses to stay focused for the next event.

Did anyone think to ask the riders what they thought? and OH by the way if a rider racing the whole season and the their time is up with the current program, do they then finish out this stuff with a new team or ???

I am sure the people in charge thought this stuff all through right?

Just an old man with an opinion.
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So what??? I am so sick of hearing this crap all the time. They are paid milions for riding dirt bikes. The rest of us have to work night and day just to get by...
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Supercross season is to long or they should have back to back rounds .
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If they want the three SMX rounds they should cut the number of SX rounds down and start the Outdoors earlier.
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10/7/2022 2:17am Edited Date/Time 10/7/2022 3:43am
Now that we’re without the monster cup, aren't they really only doing one extra race for the calendar year? And it'll all be done and dusted by the end of september?

Matthes has said that everyone in the pits is stoked for this schedule. Where have you drawn your conclusions from?
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Every OEM agreed to this schedule.
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ElliotB16
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Less super duper motocross and more nationals at new tracks!
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greg570 wrote:
So what??? I am so sick of hearing this crap all the time. They are paid milions for riding dirt bikes. The rest of us have...
So what??? I am so sick of hearing this crap all the time. They are paid milions for riding dirt bikes. The rest of us have to work night and day just to get by...
They? Think only a limited few get millions at most
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10/7/2022 5:10am
Have you listened to any of the interviews with riders when SMX gets brought up? I haven't heard much negative like you're implying. The general consensus seems to be pretty positive. What media do you use to get your information? There's tons of outlets that have spoke with riders on the record.
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10/7/2022 5:49am
greg570 wrote:
So what??? I am so sick of hearing this crap all the time. They are paid milions for riding dirt bikes. The rest of us have...
So what??? I am so sick of hearing this crap all the time. They are paid milions for riding dirt bikes. The rest of us have to work night and day just to get by...
I don't think too many are paid millions.
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3 fucking Anaheims and we have to give up an outdoor round. Florida was such a cool track and we could go there in late April.
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With the money on the line most of them probably don’t care.
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10/7/2022 6:27am Edited Date/Time 10/7/2022 6:28am
The sport is brutal, but they are only adding 2 races (arguably 1 if you count MEC) and it resulted in higher payouts and a more stable TV package. Seems like a good tradeoff for the racers and the sport as a whole.

They have 31 race weekends, which means they have 21 weekends off. They will still have all of October, November and December to recharge mentally and physically, or to pad the pocket book with overseas races. When you put it in those terms, doesn't sound too bad.
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With the money on the line most of them probably don’t care.
This. If my boss told me I would be working Saturday for my regular hourly rate, I'd be pissed. If he tells me I'm working Saturday but I'm getting triple time, my opinion changes drastically.
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If the riders don't like they should do something else
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The season will end in Sept in 24...the only reason in goes in to Oct next year is because of the USC football schedule...
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They could always get a 9 to 5 if it's too much for them.
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It's already too much.

I doubt very few people on here know what it is like to really train. For those that do or have, it makes this predicament seem even more absurd.

I think there should be 10 SX rounds and 10 MX rounds.

The 450 seasons are so long anyways it's almost a runaway in the 450 class. What we had this summer with Eli and Chase was a rareity.
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I see both sides of it. One thing people might forget is that they do still train when they are not racing, so they are still working more than 31 weeks a year. That said, we simpletons work 52 weeks a year with most people probably for 45-70k per year (average full-time salary in the US is $53k) and most probably get 2-4 weeks paid time off. So they are still making out pretty well, so it is a little hard for me to have sympathy for them.

Here again though, comparing them with other sports it does seem like stick and ball sports have a longer off season.

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Motoxdoc
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SX and MX are good things . You can’t have too much of a good thing, can you? That’s like saying that’s too much fun.
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Jarrod458
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10/7/2022 7:38am
I used to believe riders when they would say it was too much racing, but now that we see almost ALL of them practically begging for a ride at the WSX series traveling overseas directly after mx, I think they won’t be able to complain about too many races any longer. Kind of shot themselves in the foot now. Right???
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tobz wrote:
Now that we’re without the monster cup, aren't they really only doing one extra race for the calendar year? And it'll all be done and dusted...
Now that we’re without the monster cup, aren't they really only doing one extra race for the calendar year? And it'll all be done and dusted by the end of september?

Matthes has said that everyone in the pits is stoked for this schedule. Where have you drawn your conclusions from?
I think it will be similar to the Monster Cup era as well, but that final race is October 14th. This year ended on 9/3 and there haven't been many off-season races since 2019, so it's going to feel like a lot more in '23.
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10/7/2022 7:59am
tobz wrote:
Now that we’re without the monster cup, aren't they really only doing one extra race for the calendar year? And it'll all be done and dusted...
Now that we’re without the monster cup, aren't they really only doing one extra race for the calendar year? And it'll all be done and dusted by the end of september?

Matthes has said that everyone in the pits is stoked for this schedule. Where have you drawn your conclusions from?
Exactly. I also like the tone of this thread RE: lucky to be racing motorcycles and if it is too tough, get a 9 to 5. Not being disrespectful just being real.
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mx 219 wrote:
I see both sides of it. One thing people might forget is that they do still train when they are not racing, so they are still...
I see both sides of it. One thing people might forget is that they do still train when they are not racing, so they are still working more than 31 weeks a year. That said, we simpletons work 52 weeks a year with most people probably for 45-70k per year (average full-time salary in the US is $53k) and most probably get 2-4 weeks paid time off. So they are still making out pretty well, so it is a little hard for me to have sympathy for them.

Here again though, comparing them with other sports it does seem like stick and ball sports have a longer off season.

Professional athletes in all sports train and work on their craft year-round. That is not unique to motocross. But for three full months they get a break from the travel and the sponsor commitments and the mental stress of competition.
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I know a couple pros that had the following schedule…not so long ago…
12 Nationals
17 Supercrosses
Monster Cup
Aus SX
Bercy SX

I don’t see this new schedule as being as complicated or demanding as it was back when they went to Europe & Oz. Also, after his year, I believe, they’ll be completing -all- 31 races by the 1st weekend in Oct or by the end of September. I’m not going to be surprised to see some of these riders go to Bercy ON TOP of all of this.
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It's already too much. I doubt very few people on here know what it is like to really train. For those that do or have, it...
It's already too much.

I doubt very few people on here know what it is like to really train. For those that do or have, it makes this predicament seem even more absurd.

I think there should be 10 SX rounds and 10 MX rounds.

The 450 seasons are so long anyways it's almost a runaway in the 450 class. What we had this summer with Eli and Chase was a rareity.
I think I understand what you are saying about the training, but what is the one sport that has always been claimed as the top rival to the fitness and training that MX requires? Soccer.

Some of the top soccer athletes play upwards of 65 soccer matches a year, with no real training break in between their 'seasons' to speak of.

The tough part of it is the pay for some/most of the backmarkers. But in reality, those guys shouldn't probably be traveling the whole series anyway. If they aren't making enough money to make a decent living, then it's not a job but rather a hobby.
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10/7/2022 8:54am
I am getting a real bad feeling about all this.... hope moto makes it..... but how long can it realistically survive?? When does moto become slot cars, paintball, car audio, etc? IMO, it's lived a lot longer than I would have ever expected...
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10/7/2022 8:57am
Was it too much when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor....

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Johnny Ringo
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10/7/2022 8:57am
Moto fans are the only ones that want less races to watch. Weird. The more the better. I like watching racing.
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3 fucking Anaheims and we have to give up an outdoor round. Florida was such a cool track and we could go there in late April.
I’d take 5 Anaheim’s over 2 Pala’s anyday!!
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