Is anybody tuning in to Pulp tonight?

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8/15/2022 7:14pm
Holy shit, listing now. Stamp it by pulp, kids lying.
No the dealer is lying to the 17 year old kid that don’t know a Fuckin finesse when he sees one Sounds like dad wasn’t on...
No the dealer is lying to the 17 year old kid that don’t know a Fuckin finesse when he sees one

Sounds like dad wasn’t on board either

Brennan should have went through with it. Why go through all that just to say fuck it? If he’s worried about getting a ride in the future his reputation in the eyes of the OEMS was already tarnished the second the words initiating the claim left his lips
From his point of view it sounds like he would have but didn’t want to make his main sponsor look bad or worse. I bet if he could go back he would stick with the claim
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8/15/2022 7:23pm
PULP MX just lost all credability.
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8/15/2022 7:32pm Edited Date/Time 8/15/2022 7:33pm
decano51 wrote:
PULP MX just lost all credability.
How so? Because the guests he asked questions to may or may not have been honest? I’m holding off judgment until I listen to all of ML’s videos….so if the video’s of ML’s with the same players answer the same questions the same does that mean he loses credibility too?
To me it’s beginning to appear that the innocent bystander engine builder wasn’t honest either….
End of the day as JT said that the rule is flawed if everybody is afraid to use the rule so what good is the rule? This is an industry issue that I don’t know how it gets fixed…
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8/15/2022 7:34pm Edited Date/Time 8/15/2022 7:36pm
Everyone in the industry understands the shit show that happened and everyone DC, Yamaha Mathes everyone!, is shittng there pants. Virtually everyone involved, allowed money and industry influence to effect the decision and going by the rule book they should have it thrown at them, plain and simple . Heads will roll and heads need to roll. My guess they are working out who is going to be the scape goat. The rule book will also be amended in 2023.
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8/15/2022 7:35pm
decano51 wrote:
PULP MX just lost all credability.
I liked Pulp a lot better when the entire industry hated Matthes (when he was honest)
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8/15/2022 7:39pm
They're all baffled about why this blew up and blame the kid instead of the real problem being that the industry forced/pressured the kid to retract the bid. It shouldn't be taboo to claim a bike, it should be taboo to bring a bike worth more than the amount of the claiming number to an amateur race, even it's the Amateur National Championship.

I also hate how Steve gets upset at people getting upset and ranting about stuff when he literally has a segment on his show called the RaceTech Rant.
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I honestly try to go to ANY other outlet for moto news than Steve. I can’t stand his political views which he loves to inject into moto all the time. Even the sight of him annoys me. So I just do what I tell any other person that doesn’t like something. Don’t like it? Don’t watch. So I don’t 😂
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8/15/2022 8:47pm
I don't even have to listen to the show to know how it was going to go. This has been going on for years and certain organizations have their hands everywhere. If you do not kiss the ring they come after you. The AMA president is now on the hot seat and should do something! After all, do we really think our sport is going to fix this type of situation on their own? Here is the AMA President's Linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-dingman-a028965/

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8/15/2022 8:49pm
Steve has a huge mouthful of YamaCock Shocked
Someone needs to ask Steve, imo, how it tastes.

This is so transparent.
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8/15/2022 8:53pm
You’re all telling me blue cru can’t think for himself matthes is saying the kid is lying? NO WAY! It’s almost like he’s ignored all the interviews put out corroborating brennans story. Oh wait, he has.

Steve has been operating off being in the in crowd for years now. Any interview he ever does he has shit questions and is honestly a terrible journalist. He just has roots in the sport.
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I called in about the 350 and they just asked my question without going to me.
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Cotter is so loyal to the Coombs family he will probably “step away” from MX and Lorettas. Focus more on family, GNCC etc. What people always say when they are asked to either quit or be fired.
The “real” interview would be to see what Rita thinks about how it was handled.
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8/15/2022 9:11pm Edited Date/Time 8/16/2022 5:48am
Kris Creeper Keefer, Haha. Guys a douche. Always been a facade the laid back soul-rider dude attitude. He’s Full Insecure mini-dad that’s over-torqued his axle nut 1nm too much. Ignorance comes easy to him.
Pulp Puppet Show.
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8/15/2022 9:50pm
dv12.com wrote:
What is there to talk about? Kid showed up with $17k to claim a bike. He should've left with it no question asked... On to Budds...
What is there to talk about? Kid showed up with $17k to claim a bike. He should've left with it no question asked...

On to Budds Creek, people...
Excatly! It’s so cut and dry!

Move on.
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8/15/2022 10:23pm
Guys, I have listened up to and through the Matt Walker interview. I don't see that he let Yamaha off the hook, he simply interviewed Donny and there are major discrepancies between what many have said happened. Matt Walker didn't mention threatening to assault Harris for example. Based on what Matt and others said, the "pressure" came from the shop owner Chris, not Yamaha anyway. The whole thing is a shit show and it sounds like the kid is definitely not sharing the whole story.....like the fact Burkeen was in there with Cotter the whole time etc.
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8/15/2022 11:08pm
So according to Brennan in his interview with ML he said that
Donnie agreed to get him two motors and that he could go down to the Goat farm and ride a factory bike, then Donnie shook his dad’s hand. And now they’ve been ghosted by Donnie?
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The bottom line is "You can't bite the hand that feeds you"
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8/16/2022 2:14am Edited Date/Time 8/16/2022 2:16am
Guys, I have listened up to and through the Matt Walker interview. I don't see that he let Yamaha off the hook, he simply interviewed Donny...
Guys, I have listened up to and through the Matt Walker interview. I don't see that he let Yamaha off the hook, he simply interviewed Donny and there are major discrepancies between what many have said happened. Matt Walker didn't mention threatening to assault Harris for example. Based on what Matt and others said, the "pressure" came from the shop owner Chris, not Yamaha anyway. The whole thing is a shit show and it sounds like the kid is definitely not sharing the whole story.....like the fact Burkeen was in there with Cotter the whole time etc.
How did shop owner Chris even find out? The fact that a sit down occurred at all is inappropriate. Yamaha should have never been in the room with the kid. That is a shakedown and meant to intimidate.

And it was effective. Yamaha has now put the word out that if you claim, you will be blackballed. They have directly interfered with the AMA officiating to make the claim rule ineffective. So now they and the other factories can do whatever they want.
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Guys, I have listened up to and through the Matt Walker interview. I don't see that he let Yamaha off the hook, he simply interviewed Donny...
Guys, I have listened up to and through the Matt Walker interview. I don't see that he let Yamaha off the hook, he simply interviewed Donny and there are major discrepancies between what many have said happened. Matt Walker didn't mention threatening to assault Harris for example. Based on what Matt and others said, the "pressure" came from the shop owner Chris, not Yamaha anyway. The whole thing is a shit show and it sounds like the kid is definitely not sharing the whole story.....like the fact Burkeen was in there with Cotter the whole time etc.
I haven't listened yet, but was fine with all their takes on the Unadilla review show. Did they change their tune or is everyone here blowing things out of proportion because they aren't out for blood?
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jbrown15 wrote:
So according to Brennan in his interview with ML he said that Donnie agreed to get him two motors and that he could go down to...
So according to Brennan in his interview with ML he said that
Donnie agreed to get him two motors and that he could go down to the Goat farm and ride a factory bike, then Donnie shook his dad’s hand. And now they’ve been ghosted by Donnie?
Well, Donny just told ML that he had to remain at the Ranch to work the atv or side by side championship(s), so he wasn't free to follow up promptly. That seems reasonable.

Maybe I'm wrong, but Luce struck me as sincere in saying he was going to wangle some Yamaha help for Brennan, crate motors or whatever.

It first seemed strange Luce wouldn't know offhand who Brennan was if the kid won 450C in his first time at LL's, last year. But Luce staying another week or two to work more races pointed up how many riders he has to deal with, and how many have probably been coming for years and been impact players, which would crowd out a grown newbie's win last year.
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8/16/2022 3:11am
Holy shit, listing now. Stamp it by pulp, kids lying.
DerickYZ wrote:
Kid is definitely lying, that’s a fact.
Lying about what exactly?

Was Brennan lying about putting a claim in and not getting the bike?

Because that’s all that matters.
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8/16/2022 3:52am
DonM wrote:
How so? Because the guests he asked questions to may or may not have been honest? I’m holding off judgment until I listen to all of...
How so? Because the guests he asked questions to may or may not have been honest? I’m holding off judgment until I listen to all of ML’s videos….so if the video’s of ML’s with the same players answer the same questions the same does that mean he loses credibility too?
To me it’s beginning to appear that the innocent bystander engine builder wasn’t honest either….
End of the day as JT said that the rule is flawed if everybody is afraid to use the rule so what good is the rule? This is an industry issue that I don’t know how it gets fixed…
I agree about the engine builder. Smells.
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8/16/2022 4:11am
Sounds like Yamapulps pr was somewhat successful from the comments
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My thoughts as much as it doesn’t matter.

The kid might have done it as an FU to the Deegans if there was bad blood. He’s allowed too tho, so whatever.

The engine builder probably wanted to see inside so would likely have supported it. YouTube views, business etc

Sounds like indeed the dealer might have freaked out unnecessarily so as he has been described as a serious dude.

Walker seems to have given some advice about being potentially black balled, which sounds like it tracks with his career experiences.

Yamaha officially probably ain’t aware of much at the time but Lucce or whatever his name is would probably rather have avoided it as would Star.

At no time should a minor (assumably a minor?) be interrogated or questioned or even alone with a race official or the Deegans, that audience should not have been granted at all. Seems a serious lapse of judgement by Cotter there, that’s my main issue with it all.

I do think that last point was under-described on the show - but Steve/JT don’t have kids and even tho he said he’d be there, Keefer’s parenting style seems more like he expects his boy to own his shit. Either way, you ain’t talking to my kid without me there, because whether you think it or not, that’s threatening by nature of seniority.

I don’t think Matthes was licking blue balls so to speak - his line about dragging it through the mud seemed more about the whole thing, after the event, interviews etc. Either way, it’s better that he is interviewing or getting each take than just ranting as has been done elsewhere.

And bottom line the kid should have the bike. The rule should be in place and contrary to what some have said, I think it makes sense the value is low because isn’t that more of a deterrent?
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8/16/2022 4:22am Edited Date/Time 8/16/2022 4:25am
Holy shit, listing now. Stamp it by pulp, kids lying.
DerickYZ wrote:
Kid is definitely lying, that’s a fact.
CPR wrote:
Lying about what exactly?

Was Brennan lying about putting a claim in and not getting the bike?

Because that’s all that matters.
The situation sucks but bottom line: Brennen didn’t get get the bike because he backed out of the claim.

It’s was ultimately he and his dads decision to not have the bike in their possession right now.
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8/16/2022 4:39am
I haven't listened yet and may not waste 5 hours listening to that.
I could be wrong.
However, for the life of me I do not see Matthes throwing MX-Sports or Yamaha under the bus over claimgate.
He probably tried to do some damage control.
I'd assume he would have their backs considering those companies were his livelihood for quite a while(I think most folks would if in the same boat). After his factory wrenching career for Yamaha he went to work for DC/Racer-X. He even did some live pit reporting during the old MX nationals audio only webcasts for Mx-Sports etc.
I'm sure most in the sport know his history before the whole pulp thing became very successful.


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8/16/2022 5:20am Edited Date/Time 8/16/2022 5:24am
Been a pulp fan since day one. I’ve even donated things to Steve like jerseys and memorabilia for the studio. However, lost a ton of respect for Steve and Keefer. It’s obvious there bought and paid for by Yamaha. Keefer saying it’s a “unsaid rule not to claim a bike or you will be blackballed” is all I needed to hear. Wow dude! You really changed my opinion of you, and how much of a “soul rider” you claim to be is bullshit. Just like Washington DC the motocross industry is corrupt and in somebody’s pocket. You guys call yourselves journalists but your far from it! At least JT$ kept it real. Otherwise a pathetic excuse of a show
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MX114 wrote:
Been a pulp fan since day one. I’ve even donated things to Steve like jerseys and memorabilia for the studio. However, lost a ton of respect...
Been a pulp fan since day one. I’ve even donated things to Steve like jerseys and memorabilia for the studio. However, lost a ton of respect for Steve and Keefer. It’s obvious there bought and paid for by Yamaha. Keefer saying it’s a “unsaid rule not to claim a bike or you will be blackballed” is all I needed to hear. Wow dude! You really changed my opinion of you, and how much of a “soul rider” you claim to be is bullshit. Just like Washington DC the motocross industry is corrupt and in somebody’s pocket. You guys call yourselves journalists but your far from it! At least JT$ kept it real. Otherwise a pathetic excuse of a show
Why donate to the studio, those guys have access to the riders,pits anytime they want lol.
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8/16/2022 5:45am Edited Date/Time 8/16/2022 5:47am
Chicken licks. Why Deegan can't keep his tongue in his mouth in the ad at the top the page. Is that a Bro thing Bro, yea no?

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