Brennan Schofield interview about his Deegan bike claim!

KiwiBermRailer 8/12/2022 9:02pm
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This is a prime example of why the rule is in place!

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“I think I'd like to hold off judgment on a thing like that, sir, until all the facts are in...” Gen. “Buck” Turgidson
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m121c 8/12/2022 9:09pm
8/12/2022 9:09pm
Im not really shocked Star is in the middle of this, seems like they are always at the center of some unethical BS.

My question is, if the dealership was threatened and there was all this pressure, why push the story out after the claim was pulled back? Yamaha/Star would have just as much reason to retaliate whether you get the bike, or expose them while trying.

Might as well went through with it, then tell the story. If they were going to do something, they will do it regardless. Atleast then you get a bad ass bike.
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lappedrider 8/12/2022 9:12pm
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Crazy. 3 adults in a room with a minor for 5 minutes isn’t any better than 2 adults in a room with a minor for 30. Either way this went down, it’s just wrong.
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Money 8/12/2022 9:12pm
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Someone should get ahold of someone at star
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I think the only real journalist in this entire sport right now is ML. Thank you for letting the truth stand and not cower to these corporations or to DC. Always stand for the truth. Even if you lose friends and make enemies. I will stand firmly with you sir.
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He lost his sponsors today.
That sucks, I'm sure it's the dealer trying to do damage control at this point.
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dkurtd 8/12/2022 9:31pm
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Dirt.Squirt wrote:
Yeah idk what the deal was with walker. And why that’s not a bigger deal on all of this. The guy could have approached his customer...
Yeah idk what the deal was with walker. And why that’s not a bigger deal on all of this. The guy could have approached his customer literally any other way and it would have been a better outcome
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Maybe Luce got to Walker before Walker could get to Brennan and then the good ole boys club comes into play. Walker decides to drop any...
Maybe Luce got to Walker before Walker could get to Brennan and then the good ole boys club comes into play. Walker decides to drop any loyalty he has with Brennan to stay on the inside.

Matt looks like crap on this.
Matt is nothing but a loudmouth that wants to keep lining his pockets and he can do that better from the inside than sticking by Brennan and being on the outside. It says a lot about his character if you ask me.
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KurtJ99 8/12/2022 9:36pm
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Listening to the video, Brennan was told “you know you can’t get spare parts that motor”, suggesting it was a Star pro -not amateur-spec motor.
It’s a pisser that everyone got in the way. Really the claim should be confidential, irrevocable with the bike impounded immediately (sorry if you race two classes bring two bikes).
They are just going to change the rules now. It was nice Brennan said the AMA was good to him, but they will be pressured to change the rules.
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bite_the_curb 8/12/2022 9:37pm
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alot of people in the moto community are white trash losers and completely unprofessional
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KurtJ99 wrote:
Listening to the video, Brennan was told “you know you can’t get spare parts that motor”, suggesting it was a Star pro -not amateur-spec motor. It’s...
Listening to the video, Brennan was told “you know you can’t get spare parts that motor”, suggesting it was a Star pro -not amateur-spec motor.
It’s a pisser that everyone got in the way. Really the claim should be confidential, irrevocable with the bike impounded immediately (sorry if you race two classes bring two bikes).
They are just going to change the rules now. It was nice Brennan said the AMA was good to him, but they will be pressured to change the rules.
Even the am spec motor you wouldn’t be able to get parts for off the shelf. The am spec motor is still going to have piston, valves, cams etc that were built by a vendor to their specifications.
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wisey 8/12/2022 9:42pm
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Defamed 😂

Edit: why would the kid have a star bike in hand and retract the claim if they were not threatening? Just to go on a video to defame them.😂
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KurtJ99 wrote:
Listening to the video, Brennan was told “you know you can’t get spare parts that motor”, suggesting it was a Star pro -not amateur-spec motor. It’s...
Listening to the video, Brennan was told “you know you can’t get spare parts that motor”, suggesting it was a Star pro -not amateur-spec motor.
It’s a pisser that everyone got in the way. Really the claim should be confidential, irrevocable with the bike impounded immediately (sorry if you race two classes bring two bikes).
They are just going to change the rules now. It was nice Brennan said the AMA was good to him, but they will be pressured to change the rules.
ML512 wrote:
Even the am spec motor you wouldn’t be able to get parts for off the shelf. The am spec motor is still going to have piston...
Even the am spec motor you wouldn’t be able to get parts for off the shelf. The am spec motor is still going to have piston, valves, cams etc that were built by a vendor to their specifications.
Guaranteed you could take that motor to Jamie at TD and he would be able to make or order whatever you would need to maintain it.
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SlowOldGuy 8/12/2022 9:50pm
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slowgti wrote:
Any bets on a rule change before the LL qualifiers start next year?
I will take all of the action available on no changes for Lorettas next year. It would not surprise me to see the AMA rule match the Lorettas rule. 30% over retail doesnt make sense in the 4 stroke era

Lol
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Sirskeetsalot 8/12/2022 9:50pm
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m121c wrote:
Im not really shocked Star is in the middle of this, seems like they are always at the center of some unethical BS. My question is...
Im not really shocked Star is in the middle of this, seems like they are always at the center of some unethical BS.

My question is, if the dealership was threatened and there was all this pressure, why push the story out after the claim was pulled back? Yamaha/Star would have just as much reason to retaliate whether you get the bike, or expose them while trying.

Might as well went through with it, then tell the story. If they were going to do something, they will do it regardless. Atleast then you get a bad ass bike.
Brennan messed up. He had the royal flush in his hand and folded.

He should have told Walker and the Luce to fuck off, taken the claimed bike, and warned everyone involved that if anything happened to his sponsors, he would have his engine guy live stream the tear down of that motor piece by piece for everyone to evaluate.

If it's a factory works motor in that bike, they would all be fucked.

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ML512 8/12/2022 9:52pm
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KurtJ99 wrote:
Listening to the video, Brennan was told “you know you can’t get spare parts that motor”, suggesting it was a Star pro -not amateur-spec motor. It’s...
Listening to the video, Brennan was told “you know you can’t get spare parts that motor”, suggesting it was a Star pro -not amateur-spec motor.
It’s a pisser that everyone got in the way. Really the claim should be confidential, irrevocable with the bike impounded immediately (sorry if you race two classes bring two bikes).
They are just going to change the rules now. It was nice Brennan said the AMA was good to him, but they will be pressured to change the rules.
ML512 wrote:
Even the am spec motor you wouldn’t be able to get parts for off the shelf. The am spec motor is still going to have piston...
Even the am spec motor you wouldn’t be able to get parts for off the shelf. The am spec motor is still going to have piston, valves, cams etc that were built by a vendor to their specifications.
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Guaranteed you could take that motor to Jamie at TD and he would be able to make or order whatever you would need to maintain it.
The head and piston could easily be digitized, cam spec measured out, etc.

A few components could be ridiculously expensive to copy…particularly the transmission components of the ratios are different. Potentially if a rumor holds up I heard about cam gears, crank drive gear, and cam chain being changed…that could get very pricey as well...

Crank / rod is done by crank works but they’re very loyal to the team. They wouldn’t reproduce for another customer.

But that’s exactly why Star wouldn’t want this out there wether it was an or pro Spec. The mechanical components could very easily be copied. But that’s on them for bringing a combination to a race they aren’t comfortable with losing.

Only true mystery that would never be uncovered is the ECU mapping. It would be totally locked and the only way to modify the Vortex would be to basically wipe it / re-upload the firmware.
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jbrown15 8/12/2022 10:06pm
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ML512 wrote:
Even the am spec motor you wouldn’t be able to get parts for off the shelf. The am spec motor is still going to have piston...
Even the am spec motor you wouldn’t be able to get parts for off the shelf. The am spec motor is still going to have piston, valves, cams etc that were built by a vendor to their specifications.
109 wrote:
Guaranteed you could take that motor to Jamie at TD and he would be able to make or order whatever you would need to maintain it.
ML512 wrote:
The head and piston could easily be digitized, cam spec measured out, etc. A few components could be ridiculously expensive to copy…particularly the transmission components of...
The head and piston could easily be digitized, cam spec measured out, etc.

A few components could be ridiculously expensive to copy…particularly the transmission components of the ratios are different. Potentially if a rumor holds up I heard about cam gears, crank drive gear, and cam chain being changed…that could get very pricey as well...

Crank / rod is done by crank works but they’re very loyal to the team. They wouldn’t reproduce for another customer.

But that’s exactly why Star wouldn’t want this out there wether it was an or pro Spec. The mechanical components could very easily be copied. But that’s on them for bringing a combination to a race they aren’t comfortable with losing.

Only true mystery that would never be uncovered is the ECU mapping. It would be totally locked and the only way to modify the Vortex would be to basically wipe it / re-upload the firmware.
The suspension, wheels, exhaust and ECU would probably make it worth for people to claim these top amateur kids bikes. I mean what is Mitch charging for the suspension that Ryder D’s bike had on it at LL’s.
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slowgti wrote:
Any bets on a rule change before the LL qualifiers start next year?
SlowOldGuy wrote:
I will take all of the action available on no changes for Lorettas next year. It would not surprise me to see the AMA rule match...
I will take all of the action available on no changes for Lorettas next year. It would not surprise me to see the AMA rule match the Lorettas rule. 30% over retail doesnt make sense in the 4 stroke era

Lol
If you changed the rules, then your boy Tim wouldn't get to intimidate 17-year olds in the back room of the MXSports trailer. And you would just stand there and let it happen.
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placing blame in the wrong areas. who lets their kid take "their" so called $17k cash into there to claim a bike. no dad in their right mind would even remotely think thats a good idea. I'm not buying the " i wrenched on bikes for $17k story.

look the bike shoulda been claimed. i love the rule. and it should be in play.....but a lot of this isn't adding up.i want to know where i can wrench on bikes for a few months throw $17k cash together and Smile ....and even better yet talk my parents into letting me "claim a factory" bike. Smile there is an alternative motive to this whole thing and to believe there isn't is naive.
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jbrown15 wrote:
The suspension, wheels, exhaust and ECU would probably make it worth for people to claim these top amateur kids bikes. I mean what is Mitch charging...
The suspension, wheels, exhaust and ECU would probably make it worth for people to claim these top amateur kids bikes. I mean what is Mitch charging for the suspension that Ryder D’s bike had on it at LL’s.
Star am bike suspension is just production forks and shock with a PSF1 fork cartridge slid in the fork tubes...and of course setup for the rider.
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seth505 8/12/2022 10:19pm
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Geeeeeez, if all of this/most of this is true then it's so sad but I'm not surprised. Not a fan of cancel culture, but from my personal perspective, fuck Yamaha, fuck Walker and fuck anyone else who tries to strong arm a minor who is just following rules that were made by someone else.
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Motocross riders are the worst ! Their main bike dream is to "get sponsored" - Which means get shit for free. Now Yamaha are running a...
Motocross riders are the worst !
Their main bike dream is to "get sponsored" - Which means get shit for free.
Now Yamaha are running a program. Advertising if you will. Star racing. Star racing have been doing very well and doing good for Yamaha the very reason for this incident. Everyone wants a YZ250F now and thinks it is the best. Now a rider that also races and is sponsored by Yamaha wants to threaten that program because he is Jealous and it is a problem because Yamaha is over zealous testing running "works" bike etc in their program. Never the less it is how everything is funded bike sales advertising the sport etc. It is amazing how most people on this thread want to take down Yamaha who are part of keeping the very sport they partake in down. If a Dumb AS jealous kid wants to but for no reason than own selfish motives. I want to ride a Star racing bike , but I am not good enough but so I will pull a legal stunt . The every one get mad when Yamaha pulls a legal stunt to protect their program which everyone in the sport indirectly benefits from. Everyone rushes to support the selfish entity against that which supports the sport more broadly. I want to sponsored I want free stuff . BUT where does the money come from ? It comes from the industry that makes money and has enough money to support racing and sponsorship. Destroy the industry and guess what less racing less sponsorship. My worst is when riders who are sponsored do not behave professionally. They are being paid. By trashing or threatening the very brand that supports them. Thereby making it worse for everyone else who want to race get sponsored etc etc.
Like I said from an industry stand point Motocross riders are the worst customers to deal with because their big dream is give me free stuff while we bad mouth you trying to make a living or success of a business. Road racers are not like that at all ! They are happy to pay and are grateful for services. It is just how it is. This thread just proves these points.
Trying to read this gave me brain damage
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FHKRacingZ 8/12/2022 10:26pm
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Well Deegan better go pro now..Cause we all know he will show up with a generic practice engine if he stays AM.

I will pay the full claim amount plus 5k to anybody who competes against him and gets me his Star bike at an amateur race. Anybody interested feel free to DM me..

Was a Deegan fan prior to this, not so much now..Time to give them some of their own medicine, you ain’t the only person with money buddy..
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Janus9 8/12/2022 10:26pm
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Fuck Yamaha, Fuck Star, and Fuck Deegan........

Done with all of them.
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jbrown15 8/12/2022 10:27pm
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Star am bike suspension is just production forks and shock with a PSF1 fork cartridge slid in the fork tubes...and of course setup for the rider.
Really? The pictures on Deegan’s Instagram show his bike has Kite hubs and black billet lugs on his forks? Didn’t think the suspension was stock.

Would still be worth it to claim the bike though.
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WhipMeister 8/12/2022 10:29pm
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I haven't watched all of it yet. But my advice to Brennan after about half of it would have been, once the AMA said it's your bike quit talking to anyone. Your only commentary from that point forward is "where's my bike?". Like not an F in word.
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dboivin wrote:
placing blame in the wrong areas. who lets their kid take "their" so called $17k cash into there to claim a bike. no dad in their...
placing blame in the wrong areas. who lets their kid take "their" so called $17k cash into there to claim a bike. no dad in their right mind would even remotely think thats a good idea. I'm not buying the " i wrenched on bikes for $17k story.

look the bike shoulda been claimed. i love the rule. and it should be in play.....but a lot of this isn't adding up.i want to know where i can wrench on bikes for a few months throw $17k cash together and Smile ....and even better yet talk my parents into letting me "claim a factory" bike. Smile there is an alternative motive to this whole thing and to believe there isn't is naive.
What’s it even matter where the cash came from, or whether there were alterior motives?
At the end of the day he followed the rules, end of story.
What happened after the claim is where the real story is at.
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dboivin wrote:
placing blame in the wrong areas. who lets their kid take "their" so called $17k cash into there to claim a bike. no dad in their...
placing blame in the wrong areas. who lets their kid take "their" so called $17k cash into there to claim a bike. no dad in their right mind would even remotely think thats a good idea. I'm not buying the " i wrenched on bikes for $17k story.

look the bike shoulda been claimed. i love the rule. and it should be in play.....but a lot of this isn't adding up.i want to know where i can wrench on bikes for a few months throw $17k cash together and Smile ....and even better yet talk my parents into letting me "claim a factory" bike. Smile there is an alternative motive to this whole thing and to believe there isn't is naive.
Thats kinda the part thats not sitting well with me. "I didnt have $11,000 at regionals but I scraped up $17,000 in time for LL." Little thin. But I still think the kid is believable. He had conviction when he spoke. Cant coach that. And DC trying to discount the kid's story by saying they only had the 17 year old in the room for 5 mins makes DC look like a real POS .....in my opinion.,
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dboivin wrote:
placing blame in the wrong areas. who lets their kid take "their" so called $17k cash into there to claim a bike. no dad in their...
placing blame in the wrong areas. who lets their kid take "their" so called $17k cash into there to claim a bike. no dad in their right mind would even remotely think thats a good idea. I'm not buying the " i wrenched on bikes for $17k story.

look the bike shoulda been claimed. i love the rule. and it should be in play.....but a lot of this isn't adding up.i want to know where i can wrench on bikes for a few months throw $17k cash together and Smile ....and even better yet talk my parents into letting me "claim a factory" bike. Smile there is an alternative motive to this whole thing and to believe there isn't is naive.
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What’s it even matter where the cash came from, or whether there were alterior motives? At the end of the day he followed the rules, end...
What’s it even matter where the cash came from, or whether there were alterior motives?
At the end of the day he followed the rules, end of story.
What happened after the claim is where the real story is at.
These are exactly my thoughts on the money questions. Even if the money came from someone else (which Schofield said it did not), there is nowhere in the rules that state the claimant must provide his/her own money with bank statements or pay stubs to back it up as their own.

The rules are the rules. People are grasping at straws trying to make it look like Schofield did something wrong - or 'played dirty', like Brian Deegan flat out said in the LL wrap up video - are clearly misinformed and incorrect.
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ML512 8/12/2022 10:42pm
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ML512 wrote:
Star am bike suspension is just production forks and shock with a PSF1 fork cartridge slid in the fork tubes...and of course setup for the rider.
jbrown15 wrote:
Really? The pictures on Deegan’s Instagram show his bike has Kite hubs and black billet lugs on his forks? Didn’t think the suspension was stock. Would...
Really? The pictures on Deegan’s Instagram show his bike has Kite hubs and black billet lugs on his forks? Didn’t think the suspension was stock.

Would still be worth it to claim the bike though.
Star doesn’t run billet lugs on any other their bikes. Yamaha’s come with a black anodized lug stock.
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