Deegan bike claimed? Everyone, please stop now

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DonM ACTUALLY spends ALL DAY arguing with different people on Vital! Check his post history… one after the other after the other. You can tell School...
DonM ACTUALLY spends ALL DAY arguing with different people on Vital!

Check his post history… one after the other after the other.

You can tell School is out for summer!
Pot meet kettle….
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8/10/2022 8:53pm
star doesn't want random people to know what exactly is going on inside their motors, pays the dude to stop the claim... seems pretty straight forward to me. if this were the pw50 class, then it would actually look fishy.
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8/10/2022 9:00pm
It would make so much sense if Harris was involved in this. This thread is golden!
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8/10/2022 9:05pm
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All this talk about this kid from Don M. and ML. So we all know know press for MX are scared to expose any real press...
All this talk about this kid from Don M. and ML. So we all know know press for MX are scared to expose any real press because the mx community is so small and press can easily be shunned. I’m not sure why this is a surprise to anyone.
I really don’t care any way the ball rolls but to see these media types chime in with their 2 cents when they have a hard time asking a difficult question to a rider is quite funny. Real life, am and pro riders are pampered and have the upper hand on the media. The sport is small and media is scared.
It’s funny to think that we will ever get the real story. If we did, the person that exposed it will get black balled.
DonM wrote:
First of all I’m not swap and Bullshit, ML has reached out to talk to the kid and his family and they haven’t responded as of...
First of all I’m not swap and Bullshit, ML has reached out to talk to the kid and his family and they haven’t responded as of yet(albeit through the engine builder who is obviously Kooksey’s source)…but then he could just make shit up or only talk to one source like Kooksey…
Honestly I don’t give two craps who you are. Facts are the moto industry media are scared as much as this kid is.
This kid has spent x amount of time perfecting his craft, only to be (speculated) to be threatened by big wigs in the industry. Once that black cloud is over your head the rain doesn’t stop and the erosion continues. That’s fact weather you want to hear it or not.
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8/10/2022 9:11pm
No mention of Donnie luce from yamaha calling the dealership In Canada and telling the owner they would no longer be a yamaha shop if the claim happened. That’s a bad look on yamaha If you ask me.
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DonM wrote:
First of all I’m not swap and Bullshit, ML has reached out to talk to the kid and his family and they haven’t responded as of...
First of all I’m not swap and Bullshit, ML has reached out to talk to the kid and his family and they haven’t responded as of yet(albeit through the engine builder who is obviously Kooksey’s source)…but then he could just make shit up or only talk to one source like Kooksey…

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8/10/2022 9:39pm Edited Date/Time 8/10/2022 9:48pm
Money wrote:
No mention of Donnie luce from yamaha calling the dealership In Canada and telling the owner they would no longer be a yamaha shop if the...
No mention of Donnie luce from yamaha calling the dealership In Canada and telling the owner they would no longer be a yamaha shop if the claim happened. That’s a bad look on yamaha If you ask me.
If anyone looked at Rallye Motoplex they would see a very large dealership that not only deals in motorcycles they also deal in boats, watercraft, and sleds. They aren't your local Yamaha only dealership. I'm sure if someone called them threatening to pull a dealership (I count 18 different dealer lines they sale) they would laugh and tell them to standby to get sued (especially over something they played no part in).
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nornevrder wrote:
All this talk about this kid from Don M. and ML. So we all know know press for MX are scared to expose any real press...
All this talk about this kid from Don M. and ML. So we all know know press for MX are scared to expose any real press because the mx community is so small and press can easily be shunned. I’m not sure why this is a surprise to anyone.
I really don’t care any way the ball rolls but to see these media types chime in with their 2 cents when they have a hard time asking a difficult question to a rider is quite funny. Real life, am and pro riders are pampered and have the upper hand on the media. The sport is small and media is scared.
It’s funny to think that we will ever get the real story. If we did, the person that exposed it will get black balled.
Don M isn't Donn Maeda. And as I've stated multiple times in here, I've passed on that I'm more than happy to talk to the kid and his family to get their side. I'm not going to just run with the story I was given by a source who got it from the engine guy, not even the family or kid. And the source itself has made some pretty crazy accusations before that were unfounded, so I'm not going to start a shit show unless someone wants to step up and talk.

Similar to the Butler Brother saga. Lots of behind the scenes stories but no one will go on record officially about it. Until then, I'm just slinging slander on behalf of someone who won't come forward.

Yes, sometimes we run stories on rumors or private sources but I at least try to fact check them.

The little bit of digging I did between other parties involved and even a couple who sorta saw what happened from a far had literally the exact opposite to say as to what's been said by the accusing source. Beyond that, the primary source for this story (Harris) has basically been black balled from this site for his past business dealings and interactions. So I don't hold much faith in his side.

This is me trying to be somewhat of what someone would consider a real journalist...I get yelled at weekly for stuff I already write or say, I don't care about that stuff very much. But I'm not going to sling accusations for a party or parties that seem to have an agenda and want someone else to be the mouth piece and not take responsibility for their claims, accusations, and story. In my book, that's very irresponsible and not professional, at all.

(Also...again, I claim my job to be Content Director/Creator...I don't proclaim to be a journalist by trade)
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Okay so the engine builder wanted the secret sauce (this is called IP in the real world I think) about how Star specifically makes their 250’s into rocket ships. Probably a combo of the ecu, cam profile and who knows what else. He was willing to pay 17k doll hairs. Tried doing it through an amateur with an axe to grind with the Deegans. Said amateur then got paid o-, sorry, I meant said amateur decided then to do a U-turn and cancel it. That’s all there is to it folks. 🤫

I find it hard to believe that Star would allow their engine package to be looked at by an engine builder. I’m sure it’s that special engine package that brings them some of the best amateurs and pros. (Remember the whole Thrasher saga) It’s hilarious that some people desperately want this to be a massive deal and others think this is nothing and we should all move along (and quickly). I look forward to someone from mx sports eventually coming on here to tell us all a nice story about how this was just a big ol’ “misunderstanding”
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8/10/2022 11:18pm
Anyone that really knows what the details were, isn't talking. Move along Nancy Boys...except for Bjorn645 - as an outsider looking in, I think he's got it.
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I can’t be bothered to read through fifteen pages.

Cliff notes please.
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The kid is one of our local racers. Raced 450 C at LL last year. They put so much intimidation on them in the dark wooded pits that they dropped it. They called the dealer that he rides for threatening to have their Yamaha Franchise taken away. They family have not received a penny from Star.
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Money wrote:
No mention of Donnie luce from yamaha calling the dealership In Canada and telling the owner they would no longer be a yamaha shop if the...
No mention of Donnie luce from yamaha calling the dealership In Canada and telling the owner they would no longer be a yamaha shop if the claim happened. That’s a bad look on yamaha If you ask me.
dkurtd wrote:
If anyone looked at Rallye Motoplex they would see a very large dealership that not only deals in motorcycles they also deal in boats, watercraft, and...
If anyone looked at Rallye Motoplex they would see a very large dealership that not only deals in motorcycles they also deal in boats, watercraft, and sleds. They aren't your local Yamaha only dealership. I'm sure if someone called them threatening to pull a dealership (I count 18 different dealer lines they sale) they would laugh and tell them to standby to get sued (especially over something they played no part in).
It happens. Another local Yamaha dealer that has KTM as well has its franchise pulled over bad blood between the owner and the Yamaha rep.
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Swordfish typed."They called the dealer that he rides for threatening to have their Yamaha Franchise taken away. "

If there's any truth to that statement, then Yamaha Corporation should be punished like in Formula 1. Maybe all Yamaha factory riders "sit out" this Saturday at Unadilla. The "Punishment" must be more severe than the crime. We'll never know the truth and I'm suprised this thread is still here.
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I just can't believe people give that much of a fuck about a bunch of hippies riding dirtbikes on a shit hole track in Tennessee.
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If he did try the claim the bike . What was the point when your best finish is 14th. That bike is going to make you...
If he did try the claim the bike . What was the point when your best finish is 14th. That bike is going to make you win! LOL

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8/11/2022 5:26am
So once again something huge and shady goes down in the moto world, and the only one who will actually report on it, is Cooksey….
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Would be interesting if a journalist from outside the industry looked into this story...
So funny that a majority of the people here believe the "fake news narrative" but will believe that Weege is going to report anything to paint a major player in his bosses multiple business ventures in a bad light
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8/11/2022 6:22am Edited Date/Time 8/11/2022 6:27am
So once again something huge and shady goes down in the moto world, and the only one who will actually report on it, is Cooksey….
Problem is most are not reporting because nothing has been 100% proven or confirmed by anyone involved. Cooksey has no facts and he is just going off what he has heard. He does this a lot and that's why some are not fans of him. Yes, some of it may be true but also it could be 100% false. If Star, Yamaha, Schofield Family, Engine Builder, anyone close to the situation came out and said what happened everyone would be reporting on it. Like ML512 said he wants to hear facts before reporting more on it.

This thread should be called "Silly Season: Deegan Bike Claimed" Because 95% of this thread is speculation.
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Who ever gets the kid on the record wins.
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The only part I’m really interested in hearing about, if it actually happened, is how Cotter and Deegan got to the kid before he got to the AMA official. The rest, to me, is inconsequential.
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Plead the 5th.
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bvm111 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/08/11/563593/s1200_7EC6008F_8683_4AE0_8A18_23FE6E2503BB.jpg[/img]

https://youtu.be/mphg2feuAPo

I watch a lot of this
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8/11/2022 7:36am Edited Date/Time 8/11/2022 7:38am
So once again something huge and shady goes down in the moto world, and the only one who will actually report on it, is Cooksey….
This is not accurate. Everyone has talked about it on their shows, social media, and other avenues, but until the people who claimed the bike tell their side, it is all speculation. Cooksey is doing nothing but sharing things he heard like a teenage girl in the locker room.....or National Enquirer etc. He could be right, or not, since he only "heard" things. Entertaining? Yes. Factual? Not yet anyway.

The media you are condemning have all reached out to that family to hear their side. They cannot force them to just like the Butler Bros garbage with Baggett and their demise during SX. If nobody is talking, what do you expect them to do?

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8/11/2022 7:56am
olds cool wrote:
The only part I’m really interested in hearing about, if it actually happened, is how Cotter and Deegan got to the kid before he got to...
The only part I’m really interested in hearing about, if it actually happened, is how Cotter and Deegan got to the kid before he got to the AMA official. The rest, to me, is inconsequential.
That part is categorically untrue! I was in the room the whole time when Deegen was there and nothing happened there was no intimidation whatsoever. I was also there right after the kid brought the protest up and the reason the kid was in the room without his father is because his father wasn’t there. Derek Harris wanted in the room but was not allowed because he was not the parent or guardian. That is absolutely positively firsthand because I was in the room

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olds cool wrote:
The only part I’m really interested in hearing about, if it actually happened, is how Cotter and Deegan got to the kid before he got to...
The only part I’m really interested in hearing about, if it actually happened, is how Cotter and Deegan got to the kid before he got to the AMA official. The rest, to me, is inconsequential.
SlowOldGuy wrote:
That part is categorically untrue! I was in the room the whole time when Deegen was there and nothing happened there was no intimidation whatsoever. I...
That part is categorically untrue! I was in the room the whole time when Deegen was there and nothing happened there was no intimidation whatsoever. I was also there right after the kid brought the protest up and the reason the kid was in the room without his father is because his father wasn’t there. Derek Harris wanted in the room but was not allowed because he was not the parent or guardian. That is absolutely positively firsthand because I was in the room

And there you have it...but most on here will still believe the Kooksey/Harris version...looks like Harris took advantage of this kids innocence to get his hands on a Star bike...
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DonM wrote:
And there you have it...but most on here will still believe the Kooksey/Harris version...looks like Harris took advantage of this kids innocence to get his hands...
And there you have it...but most on here will still believe the Kooksey/Harris version...looks like Harris took advantage of this kids innocence to get his hands on a Star bike...
Lmao bro for someone so irritated with conjecture you sure do love to fill in a lot of blanks yourself…
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olds cool wrote:
The only part I’m really interested in hearing about, if it actually happened, is how Cotter and Deegan got to the kid before he got to...
The only part I’m really interested in hearing about, if it actually happened, is how Cotter and Deegan got to the kid before he got to the AMA official. The rest, to me, is inconsequential.
SlowOldGuy wrote:
That part is categorically untrue! I was in the room the whole time when Deegen was there and nothing happened there was no intimidation whatsoever. I...
That part is categorically untrue! I was in the room the whole time when Deegen was there and nothing happened there was no intimidation whatsoever. I was also there right after the kid brought the protest up and the reason the kid was in the room without his father is because his father wasn’t there. Derek Harris wanted in the room but was not allowed because he was not the parent or guardian. That is absolutely positively firsthand because I was in the room

DonM wrote:
And there you have it...but most on here will still believe the Kooksey/Harris version...looks like Harris took advantage of this kids innocence to get his hands...
And there you have it...but most on here will still believe the Kooksey/Harris version...looks like Harris took advantage of this kids innocence to get his hands on a Star bike...
So that one comment means it’s a closed case? That answers all the questions?
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