Nico Izzi ?? (Update: Nico Returns to Racing in 2022)

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nytsmaC 8/6/2022 10:14pm
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Jesse318pnw wrote:
I enjoyed the interview but you guys bring up good points on the depth of his remorse. Serious question, if motocross crashes have led to pills...
I enjoyed the interview but you guys bring up good points on the depth of his remorse. Serious question, if motocross crashes have led to pills that led to harder drugs that destroyed your life and others multiple times, is it smart to immediately jump on a bike where the risk of another injury and another need for pain pills is off the charts?
Or is it just “deal with that when it happens”?
jbrow125 wrote:
That crossed my mind as well. His brain will always crave something, the bike can likely fill that need for him. Hopefully he doesn't get hurt...
That crossed my mind as well. His brain will always crave something, the bike can likely fill that need for him. Hopefully he doesn't get hurt, or can sustain the aftermath if/when he does. It's also likely his talent allowing him to make some money with bikes. Beats taco bell, safeway, or pouring concrete. Who knows, just my thoughts.
Nothing wrong with pouring concrete. Motocross racing hasn’t worked out well for him so far, maybe changing his life would break the cycle.
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jbrow125 wrote:
I agree with the notion that the big amateur contracts shouldn't exist. Spread it out. Stop giving everything to a select few. Seems to have gotten...
I agree with the notion that the big amateur contracts shouldn't exist. Spread it out. Stop giving everything to a select few. Seems to have gotten better lately, no? How many actually produce? Ahh, different topic. Moving on.

One thing I did find funny was how SMILEY Don was to be around Izzy. How he was proud to be bros with JLaw. I'm all for second chances, but I'm sidestepping the dudes I know like that anytime I can. I would not be pumped, nor say so, that my buddy who beat the shit out of his girl, was out of prison finally.

I grew up with a guy nearly just like Izzy. He bounced in and out of jail. No, didn't have any big $ moto deals nor even a bike. I found him passed out in the front lawn at a party probably 20 years ago. I woke him up and took him home with me. I knew his older bro and sisters. I did not sleep a wink that night that he was there. Knew him well enough, trusted him zero. He died this year from a stroke at about 45 yrs old. I liked him. Did not trust him, and no, not a good person. But damn he was a likeable guy.
I had a friend like that. Chances are if you hung out with him you was going to do something stupid, probably get into trouble and you knew better but the guy knew how to have a good time and was fun to raise a little hell with. Wow, that was a long ass run-on sentence.
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cable wrote:
"my dad was gnarly". thats an understatement. italian concrete/construction guy..in the detroit area.. read into that how you want.
Polski934 wrote:
I worked a summer for him building manholes, it was ridiculous. After a while he would let me off work to take Nico riding. I believe...
I worked a summer for him building manholes, it was ridiculous. After a while he would let me off work to take Nico riding. I believe he is down south now though. Surprised he got as far as he did with the way he screamed at him.
He is just outside albany ga. I believe the land was originally nicos. I hired nario to work with my grandson a couple times here in alabama. Last i talked to him his wife was sickely. He was having to care for her as well.
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Ah, you mean people who try to help them, because they care. That's horrible. People don't magically get straight because you turn your back on them...
Ah, you mean people who try to help them, because they care.

That's horrible.

People don't magically get straight because you turn your back on them. That generally makes things even worse.

Yes. I fully understand that your world view has punishment righting all wrongs, and that if Izzy only had it bad enough, he'd find a path to righteousness. Guess what? That path wasn't in his upbringing. It's not in his quiver.
Chris_Buehler wrote:
No one gets magically straight, no matter what. But it definitely doesn't help when friends and family co-sign their bullshit. It usually takes everyone turning their...
No one gets magically straight, no matter what. But it definitely doesn't help when friends and family co-sign their bullshit. It usually takes everyone turning their back on them to hit rock bottom and change. And I speak from experience
Currently doing that for a close family member. Really hard to convince my parents they are just enabling him. Working on it though..

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ML512 wrote:
I personally know the ex-husband of that lady...took him in, gave him bikes to ride, paying his way...and Izzi banged his wife, broke up the family...
I personally know the ex-husband of that lady...took him in, gave him bikes to ride, paying his way...and Izzi banged his wife, broke up the family and more...

On the bright side, the guy got re-married and seems to have moved onto a much better life.
Reidmoto wrote:
Shea Bentley also ran off with a guys wife who was paying him to train their kids. Not to mention all of his drug problems.
The one time i talked to him at Monster Mountain about working with my grandson he definitely appeared to have that wierd tic still with him. I dont know his story well but ive heard a few things about some drugs. Certainly looked to have left a mark on the guy.
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lostboy819 wrote:
Drugs are not a disease.
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You're correct, addiction is.
UpTiTe wrote:
I’m one of the few that actually like most of your post, mostly because you’ve been around for so long and I’m used to it, but...
I’m one of the few that actually like most of your post, mostly because you’ve been around for so long and I’m used to it, but I strongly disagree here.

You can’t go to the dr and pick up a prescription of cancer.
I like your posts as well because you don't care what others think, and pretty much say what you want, whether it goes against the grain or not. You are correct that you can't go to a doctor and pick up a prescription for cancer. But you can't cure addiction with a prescription either. Prescriptions are band-aids to a much deeper health issue. Saying addiction is a disease is not a get out of jail free card to responsibility. Addicts need to be held accountable in order to get the help they need. But to say it is a simply a matter of will power and moral aptitude is misguided and sets the addict up for failure.
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That's weird take. You are basically saying that you need to be strung out to compete...

I see it the other way. Basically kids spending their. whole life in RV doing only mx with 0 social skills are more prone to wannabe friends who drag them into it just to be cool.

Personally at this point i'm burnt to cheer for Nico to get his shit together as i did multiple times before. I will not take part in a "jailpool" because it is known that his mom reads post about him even here and it is really low blow. I wish Nico can walk the line. Instead of the group of yes man i would recommend him to have a long chat with someone like Erik "Smelly" Sandin someone who acknowledges the bad he himself done and the aftermath. Nico is addict that is never gonna change but with a shitton of work EVERY day he can avoid being junkie and being good person for the rest of his life.
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Richy 8/9/2022 12:47am
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This guy's an absolutely fucking moron, all his replies so far have just been pointless and baseless negative bullshit, don't know who they were before their last account got clipped, but I wouldn't waste your energy 👍

* EDIT: Not aimed at J Sloan, the guy's post has been deleted and presumably his account also *
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NorCalRedRyder 8/9/2022 2:12am
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jbrow125 wrote:
I agree with the notion that the big amateur contracts shouldn't exist. Spread it out. Stop giving everything to a select few. Seems to have gotten...
I agree with the notion that the big amateur contracts shouldn't exist. Spread it out. Stop giving everything to a select few. Seems to have gotten better lately, no? How many actually produce? Ahh, different topic. Moving on.

One thing I did find funny was how SMILEY Don was to be around Izzy. How he was proud to be bros with JLaw. I'm all for second chances, but I'm sidestepping the dudes I know like that anytime I can. I would not be pumped, nor say so, that my buddy who beat the shit out of his girl, was out of prison finally.

I grew up with a guy nearly just like Izzy. He bounced in and out of jail. No, didn't have any big $ moto deals nor even a bike. I found him passed out in the front lawn at a party probably 20 years ago. I woke him up and took him home with me. I knew his older bro and sisters. I did not sleep a wink that night that he was there. Knew him well enough, trusted him zero. He died this year from a stroke at about 45 yrs old. I liked him. Did not trust him, and no, not a good person. But damn he was a likeable guy.
gharmon wrote:
I had a friend like that. Chances are if you hung out with him you was going to do something stupid, probably get into trouble and...
I had a friend like that. Chances are if you hung out with him you was going to do something stupid, probably get into trouble and you knew better but the guy knew how to have a good time and was fun to raise a little hell with. Wow, that was a long ass run-on sentence.
Ya we all have had a friend or two like that....or have been that friend. Lol I was a shitshow in my early to mid 20's. But I had a lot of fun doing it. You only live once.
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NorCalRedRyder 8/9/2022 2:17am
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UpTiTe wrote:
I’m one of the few that actually like most of your post, mostly because you’ve been around for so long and I’m used to it, but...
I’m one of the few that actually like most of your post, mostly because you’ve been around for so long and I’m used to it, but I strongly disagree here.

You can’t go to the dr and pick up a prescription of cancer.
Agreed. I don't understand all the hate he gets and enjoy a majority of his posts.
NorCalRedRyder 8/9/2022 2:28am
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Last Braaap wrote:
That's weird take. You are basically saying that you need to be strung out to compete... I see it the other way. Basically kids spending their...
That's weird take. You are basically saying that you need to be strung out to compete...

I see it the other way. Basically kids spending their. whole life in RV doing only mx with 0 social skills are more prone to wannabe friends who drag them into it just to be cool.

Personally at this point i'm burnt to cheer for Nico to get his shit together as i did multiple times before. I will not take part in a "jailpool" because it is known that his mom reads post about him even here and it is really low blow. I wish Nico can walk the line. Instead of the group of yes man i would recommend him to have a long chat with someone like Erik "Smelly" Sandin someone who acknowledges the bad he himself done and the aftermath. Nico is addict that is never gonna change but with a shitton of work EVERY day he can avoid being junkie and being good person for the rest of his life.
Exactly. Tons of people have issues like Nico, it's just not put in the public eye of our (niche sport). I know people who have done way worse things and are dead or in jail now. One of the most beautiful girls I've been with is now turning tricks at a sleazy motel and has the worst case of meth mouth I've ever seen. She has 3 beautiful girls and the Dad just got out of jail after doing a 7 year bid for stealing power and growing weed. They lost everything. House, cars, toys, bank accounts etc. She never drank or even smoked weed when I dated her days ago. Now she's a full blown junkie and her mugshot looks like a 65 year old lady. Very sad. I'm pulling for Nico.
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NorCalRedRyder wrote:
Exactly. Tons of people have issues like Nico, it's just not put in the public eye of our (niche sport). I know people who have done...
Exactly. Tons of people have issues like Nico, it's just not put in the public eye of our (niche sport). I know people who have done way worse things and are dead or in jail now. One of the most beautiful girls I've been with is now turning tricks at a sleazy motel and has the worst case of meth mouth I've ever seen. She has 3 beautiful girls and the Dad just got out of jail after doing a 7 year bid for stealing power and growing weed. They lost everything. House, cars, toys, bank accounts etc. She never drank or even smoked weed when I dated her days ago. Now she's a full blown junkie and her mugshot looks like a 65 year old lady. Very sad. I'm pulling for Nico.
Needs before and after photos of her.
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mb60 wrote:
Good for him if that is the case. Drugs are a disease that does not descriminate. If he is on the right path and has a...
Good for him if that is the case. Drugs are a disease that does not descriminate. If he is on the right path and has a grip on things then moto on brother. I have never been addicted so I can't throw stones at someone that was.
lostboy819 wrote:
Drugs are not a disease.
Drugs aren't a disease, but addiction is...You ignorant fucktard.
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mb60 wrote:
Good for him if that is the case. Drugs are a disease that does not descriminate. If he is on the right path and has a...
Good for him if that is the case. Drugs are a disease that does not descriminate. If he is on the right path and has a grip on things then moto on brother. I have never been addicted so I can't throw stones at someone that was.
lostboy819 wrote:
Drugs are not a disease.
redrider400 wrote:
Drugs aren't a disease, but addiction is...You ignorant fucktard.
I think the greater point, is addiction is self imposed
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blockhead17 8/9/2022 9:48am
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I thought Izzi was good to go on and talk about his darkest moments, it couldn’t have been easy to put yourself out these like that..
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Just a thought, "Scummy" Morrison seems to have fought his addiction head-on and won. He puts sobriety at the forefront of his entire life, when I followed him on social he mentioned sobriety in almost everything he posted, it was basically the force behind who he is now. With the experiences I and others around me have had with addiction, I can see how it takes that kind of focus and determination to keep that shit at bay. He may be an example of someone who turned it around and continues to do it right - the fire to stay sober has to be stronger than the temptation to bend. Hope Nico finds a way to feed that fire.
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mb60 wrote:
Good for him if that is the case. Drugs are a disease that does not descriminate. If he is on the right path and has a...
Good for him if that is the case. Drugs are a disease that does not descriminate. If he is on the right path and has a grip on things then moto on brother. I have never been addicted so I can't throw stones at someone that was.
lostboy819 wrote:
Drugs are not a disease.
redrider400 wrote:
Drugs aren't a disease, but addiction is...You ignorant fucktard.
How do you catch addiction? I want to steer clear.
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Kyle978 8/9/2022 12:31pm
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How do you catch addiction? I want to steer clear.
The first step is a very clear decision - the artificial rush you get from drugs is a lot easier and more cuddly than facing reality day-to-day.

That part seems to get overlooked when it comes to "contracting" this "disease".

I've been down this road myself multiple times. It's a choice.
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Roczoff wrote:
Ah, you mean people who try to help them, because they care. That's horrible. People don't magically get straight because you turn your back on them...
Ah, you mean people who try to help them, because they care.

That's horrible.

People don't magically get straight because you turn your back on them. That generally makes things even worse.

Yes. I fully understand that your world view has punishment righting all wrongs, and that if Izzy only had it bad enough, he'd find a path to righteousness. Guess what? That path wasn't in his upbringing. It's not in his quiver.
Chris_Buehler wrote:
No one gets magically straight, no matter what. But it definitely doesn't help when friends and family co-sign their bullshit. It usually takes everyone turning their...
No one gets magically straight, no matter what. But it definitely doesn't help when friends and family co-sign their bullshit. It usually takes everyone turning their back on them to hit rock bottom and change. And I speak from experience
gharmon wrote:
Currently doing that for a close family member. Really hard to convince my parents they are just enabling him. Working on it though..
The longer they enable him, the longer he's in active addiction and the chances of an overdose go up every day. The only help they should be giving him is sending him to treatment. It's not easy to take a hard line with a family member but I would most likely be dead today had my family not cut me off. I hope everything works out
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J. Sloan 8/9/2022 2:29pm
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Kyle978 wrote:
The first step is a very clear decision - the artificial rush you get from drugs is a lot easier and more cuddly than facing reality...
The first step is a very clear decision - the artificial rush you get from drugs is a lot easier and more cuddly than facing reality day-to-day.

That part seems to get overlooked when it comes to "contracting" this "disease".

I've been down this road myself multiple times. It's a choice.
It’s a choice until it’s not. Then it’s a disease.
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Kyle978 wrote:
The first step is a very clear decision - the artificial rush you get from drugs is a lot easier and more cuddly than facing reality...
The first step is a very clear decision - the artificial rush you get from drugs is a lot easier and more cuddly than facing reality day-to-day.

That part seems to get overlooked when it comes to "contracting" this "disease".

I've been down this road myself multiple times. It's a choice.
J. Sloan wrote:
It’s a choice until it’s not. Then it’s a disease.
It’s still a choice.

Ask the people who got clean what they did. They made the choice to never be that person again.
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Tbteam wrote:
How do you catch addiction? I want to steer clear.
Kyle978 wrote:
The first step is a very clear decision - the artificial rush you get from drugs is a lot easier and more cuddly than facing reality...
The first step is a very clear decision - the artificial rush you get from drugs is a lot easier and more cuddly than facing reality day-to-day.

That part seems to get overlooked when it comes to "contracting" this "disease".

I've been down this road myself multiple times. It's a choice.
100% accurate. The "Disease Concept" of addiction is mostly bullshit, drummed up in the late 80's & early 90's as a way of getting the government to fund thousands of treatment centers & rehabs across America, and to pay for the certification of millions of CADAC (Certified Alcohol/Drug Addiction Counselors) during that time.

Addicts become addicts because of frequency of use. Most start using a substance habitually because it allows them to self-medicate feelings...and their inability to deal with life on lifes terms like those who do it without having to rely on a chemical or substance daily. The feeling one gets when one becomes addicted, both psychologically & physically gets to be "normal" for them, no matter how jacked up it makes them and how abnormal they appear to those around them.

The "Disease Concept" took all the responsibility away from the addict for destructive behavior or criminal activity. They "can't help it". I got sober by taking responsibility for my life...and with a lot of help from God above. It's what I still do every day! I choose to deal with life, be responsible for my life & be a productive human...without numbing myself with alcohol and dope.

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GuyB once said "Nothing good happens after 10 pages", Well, this turd in the punchbowl didn't make it past 8.

Somebody, please flush it before it stinks up the rest of the forum!
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Reidmoto wrote:
Shea Bentley also ran off with a guys wife who was paying him to train their kids. Not to mention all of his drug problems.
Speaking of Shae Bentley I saw this on fb today 😂😂 funny but not funny.

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"It's not a sickness... It's a weakness!" ~ Tommy Lasorda, referring to Darryl Strawberry
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Laughing at the people who blame him for sleeping with the wife, she had a choice to make also.
She sure did. But if any of my buddies wives or girl friends are hitting on me I'm saying no thanks. Don't care how long of a drought you are in, have more respect for yourself and your friends than that. If she truely isn't happy and it's meant to be let them break up first.
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J. Sloan 8/11/2022 7:31am
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Tbteam wrote:
"It's not a sickness... It's a weakness!" ~ Tommy Lasorda, referring to Darryl Strawberry
You should probably stick to what the research says and what experts say instead of Lasorda.
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J. Sloan wrote:
You should probably stick to what the research says and what experts say instead of Lasorda.
Researchers and experts never have an agenda?
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byke 8/11/2022 8:47am
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I think people dislike the fact that the word "disease" has no differentiation in how it happened. Gonorrhea is a disease that usually comes from being an irresponsible idiot. Then you have some poor 4yo kid over at St Jude's with cancer in their brain and it's not from anything they did. Yet, they are the same, both "victims" of a disease. Do you have any idea what that kid and their family would give to be a victim of a disease of choice where all they had to do was stop a behavior? The differences between actual victims and victims by choice is like being on different planets. People don't really like that they fall into the same category and it's totally understandable. We just need a new word, maybe it's dumbsease. Nico has a very serious dumbsease.
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