Tell me about the failed 02 MXdesNations at Competition Park

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Sunhouse 7/25/2018 12:16am
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Typical of MXA to blame Dorna for it.
On a positive note, it marked the end of mx’s biggest groupie: McCassey
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Robgvx 7/25/2018 12:32am
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Sunhouse wrote:
Typical of MXA to blame Dorna for it.
On a positive note, it marked the end of mx’s biggest groupie: McCassey
Dorna (GL) were promoters. They chose the venues.
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scott_nz 7/25/2018 12:49am
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Sunhouse wrote:
Typical of MXA to blame Dorna for it.
On a positive note, it marked the end of mx’s biggest groupie: McCassey
no it didnt,

he was still hanging around in 2005 in Ernee,

and dorna deserved a shit ton of the blame, they gave the race to a track that was not built yet, with a promotor that had no experience, i bet he must have cut one hell of a cheque,
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make1go 7/25/2018 1:48am
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AZRider wrote:
Lived in San Diego at the time and used to ride Comp Park during the week at night. The World Cup at Glen Helen was where...
Lived in San Diego at the time and used to ride Comp Park during the week at night. The World Cup at Glen Helen was where I saw Chad Reed pass Tim Ferry and knew CR was legit. At the time the only person consistently faster than Captain America Ferry was the GOAT himself. That Australian team was probably one of the best shots at a MXDN podium they ever had and it didn't happen.

Reed, Byrne, and Ando were legit then.
they are legit now, 2 still involved decades later, and 1 rip..
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Sunhouse wrote:
Typical of MXA to blame Dorna for it.
On a positive note, it marked the end of mx’s biggest groupie: McCassey
Robgvx wrote:
Dorna (GL) were promoters. They chose the venues.
Yes, and McCassey and crew sold it in as the track would be more than ready come September. As far as I understand, they sold it in as being doable, and the public screamed for a US event. I don’t see how that is primarily Dorna’s fault. They tried but were screwed over by the organisers being inexperienced and full of words, and very little action. It is my impression from reading all the different stories about it through the years anyway
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Sunhouse 7/25/2018 2:51am
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Sunhouse wrote:
Typical of MXA to blame Dorna for it.
On a positive note, it marked the end of mx’s biggest groupie: McCassey
scott_nz wrote:
no it didnt, he was still hanging around in 2005 in Ernee, and dorna deserved a shit ton of the blame, they gave the race to...
no it didnt,

he was still hanging around in 2005 in Ernee,

and dorna deserved a shit ton of the blame, they gave the race to a track that was not built yet, with a promotor that had no experience, i bet he must have cut one hell of a cheque,
As a manlover or hangaround? I haven’t seen a pictures of the guy in years, probably since TP left the sport.

Many tracks are not built before the event is given. Zolder didn’t exist whn it was given a GP, the Dutch stadium GP doesn’t exist before GP time. I have no issues with a travk not existing before being awarded the race per se. The other organisers seem to make it work, but McCassey & Co couldn’t and that is IMO their fault, and not necessarily Dorna’s
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Robgvx 7/25/2018 3:03am
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Sunhouse wrote:
Typical of MXA to blame Dorna for it.
On a positive note, it marked the end of mx’s biggest groupie: McCassey
Robgvx wrote:
Dorna (GL) were promoters. They chose the venues.
Sunhouse wrote:
Yes, and McCassey and crew sold it in as the track would be more than ready come September. As far as I understand, they sold it...
Yes, and McCassey and crew sold it in as the track would be more than ready come September. As far as I understand, they sold it in as being doable, and the public screamed for a US event. I don’t see how that is primarily Dorna’s fault. They tried but were screwed over by the organisers being inexperienced and full of words, and very little action. It is my impression from reading all the different stories about it through the years anyway
I’m sure they did sell it to Luongo as it would be ready.

But take a step back for a second. Why award the biggest, most important race of the year to a track that didnt’t exist, on the strength of a promise?

We know the answer of course.
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Robgvx wrote:
Dorna (GL) were promoters. They chose the venues.
Sunhouse wrote:
Yes, and McCassey and crew sold it in as the track would be more than ready come September. As far as I understand, they sold it...
Yes, and McCassey and crew sold it in as the track would be more than ready come September. As far as I understand, they sold it in as being doable, and the public screamed for a US event. I don’t see how that is primarily Dorna’s fault. They tried but were screwed over by the organisers being inexperienced and full of words, and very little action. It is my impression from reading all the different stories about it through the years anyway
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I’m sure they did sell it to Luongo as it would be ready. But take a step back for a second. Why award the biggest, most...
I’m sure they did sell it to Luongo as it would be ready.

But take a step back for a second. Why award the biggest, most important race of the year to a track that didnt’t exist, on the strength of a promise?

We know the answer of course.
Because that is how showbiz works. Compare it to a festival, they are required to be ready with artist, infrastructure, etc.
Zolder, Dutch GP, all sx tracks are built in time for the event. I don’t see how this is any different tbh
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Because that is how showbiz works. Compare it to a festival, they are required to be ready with artist, infrastructure, etc. Zolder, Dutch GP, all sx...
Because that is how showbiz works. Compare it to a festival, they are required to be ready with artist, infrastructure, etc.
Zolder, Dutch GP, all sx tracks are built in time for the event. I don’t see how this is any different tbh
Yes but they used exsisting promoters at all the events you listed , they learned thier lesson thankfully ,
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AZRider wrote:
Lived in San Diego at the time and used to ride Comp Park during the week at night. The World Cup at Glen Helen was where...
Lived in San Diego at the time and used to ride Comp Park during the week at night. The World Cup at Glen Helen was where I saw Chad Reed pass Tim Ferry and knew CR was legit. At the time the only person consistently faster than Captain America Ferry was the GOAT himself. That Australian team was probably one of the best shots at a MXDN podium they ever had and it didn't happen.

Reed, Byrne, and Ando were legit then.
make1go wrote:
they are legit now, 2 still involved decades later, and 1 rip..
All three are still here.

RIP: Sharkie - Andrew McFarlane.
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I seem to remember folks on the forums, here and motodrive, both saying it was a terrible decision and it would never work WAY before race time rolled around. I WAS a stupid idea to commit that race like they did. If it had been promised in rural Texas or some place like that where it actually could have been accomplished would have been different.
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The events of 9/11 were still pretty raw and fresh in everyone’s consciousness. I recall being somewhat surprised they would continue with the event so soon after that (regardless of all the other issues), and there was no way any US riders were going to travel overseas for an alternative event.
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Weird? I posted the pic last night....gone now? Anyways....


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dutch_rider 7/25/2018 8:42am
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Robgvx wrote:
And who was VP of Dorna when Competition Park got the MXdN?

I’ll give you a clue. He’s Italian.
Do you mean the Italian maffia? oh wait.....Whistling
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Robgvx 7/25/2018 8:49am
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Robgvx wrote:
And who was VP of Dorna when Competition Park got the MXdN?

I’ll give you a clue. He’s Italian.
dutch_rider wrote:
Do you mean the Italian maffia? oh wait.....Whistling
Yup. Little known fact maybe.
Jeremy Macbeth 7/25/2018 9:07am
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Sunhouse wrote:
Typical of MXA to blame Dorna for it.
On a positive note, it marked the end of mx’s biggest groupie: McCassey
http://xgames.espn.com/xgames/action/fmx/article/4209891/hello-my-name-…

Interviewer: My most prized possessions are:
McCassey: Hands down the Lord...

Good grief, the douche even refers to The Lord as one of his possessions.
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I went out there once 2 months prior to the MXoN for a local race with my friend Eric Sherman.

Between motos, we all looked around (GuyB was there too) at that crappy sand pit from hell and wondered how they were going to turn it into a world class track in less than 60 days.

16 years later I am still amazed that the FIM allowed that track to host any event, it wasn't really even a track, more like a vacant lot...

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Robgvx 7/25/2018 11:27am
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Brent wrote:
I went out there once 2 months prior to the MXoN for a local race with my friend Eric Sherman. Between motos, we all looked around...
I went out there once 2 months prior to the MXoN for a local race with my friend Eric Sherman.

Between motos, we all looked around (GuyB was there too) at that crappy sand pit from hell and wondered how they were going to turn it into a world class track in less than 60 days.

16 years later I am still amazed that the FIM allowed that track to host any event, it wasn't really even a track, more like a vacant lot...
Wasn’t the FIM’s call.
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Rab 7/25/2018 11:51am
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I remember riding that track as a kid. crazy to think they would host a des nations there lol.
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SteveUrchin 7/25/2018 12:54pm
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The original Comp park had a lake & flat track!
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ando wrote:
The events of 9/11 were still pretty raw and fresh in everyone’s consciousness. I recall being somewhat surprised they would continue with the event so soon...
The events of 9/11 were still pretty raw and fresh in everyone’s consciousness. I recall being somewhat surprised they would continue with the event so soon after that (regardless of all the other issues), and there was no way any US riders were going to travel overseas for an alternative event.
Wasn’t 9/11 the year before. 2001
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ando wrote:
The events of 9/11 were still pretty raw and fresh in everyone’s consciousness. I recall being somewhat surprised they would continue with the event so soon...
The events of 9/11 were still pretty raw and fresh in everyone’s consciousness. I recall being somewhat surprised they would continue with the event so soon after that (regardless of all the other issues), and there was no way any US riders were going to travel overseas for an alternative event.
Tonynz wrote:
Wasn’t 9/11 the year before. 2001
Yep.
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It was pretty tragic, all the tribe people were allowed to ride for free. One guy had a wreck a few days before and sadly passed...
It was pretty tragic, all the tribe people were allowed to ride for free. One guy had a wreck a few days before and sadly passed. The tribe felt it was bad mojo and pulled the plug.
I liked the track a lot.

Comp park Jim was a regular poster on proride st the time
If that’s the case that’s pathetic things like that happen in bikes.
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I also heard about the native american kid that had an accident at the track and how that was a key domino in the collapse of...
I also heard about the native american kid that had an accident at the track and how that was a key domino in the collapse of the event (in addition to the inadequate preparation of the facility).

I rode a practice day at that track in late 1997, I think the track had barely opened up. Ryan Hughes was there and rode a modded KX80 with an XR100 engine in preparation for Langtown. He was flying! Also signed some autographs in the pits for some kids. Seemed pretty cool.

Now I can't even remember where that track was exactly. Can anyone point me to the location?
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33°47'04.6"N 116°55'15.7"W was the "newer" Comp Park (Had the Des Nations & Go Kart Track among two other tracks) 33°49'06.3"N 117°00'02.6"W was the older Comp Park...
33°47'04.6"N 116°55'15.7"W was the "newer" Comp Park (Had the Des Nations & Go Kart Track among two other tracks)
33°49'06.3"N 117°00'02.6"W was the older Comp Park. (I believe the original.. Had a Skate Park, Dirt Oval, and 2-3 Tracks)

I'll have to dig through old film boxes. Both locations were quite fun. Will always remember DV12 riding the main track at the older competition park, or older FMX rider Trevor Vines showing up and signing posters/passing out stickers to the kids.
I remember the oval. The tracks were big too. They had a freestyle park as well for a bit with ramps
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Hate Glen Helen all you want but it always has had its heart in running a race for the people and has take chances and lost a lot of money. It was a great last minute event but times have changes for everyone.
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scott_nz 5/18/2022 10:18am
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Hate Glen Helen all you want but it always has had its heart in running a race for the people and has take chances and lost...
Hate Glen Helen all you want but it always has had its heart in running a race for the people and has take chances and lost a lot of money. It was a great last minute event but times have changes for everyone.
Speaking of glen helen and the mxdn. It was said it was going to be there when they were running gps there , any inside info on why that didn’t happen ?
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disforcfc 5/18/2022 10:45am
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Robgvx wrote:
And who was VP of Dorna when Competition Park got the MXdN?

I’ll give you a clue. He’s Italian.
dutch_rider wrote:
Do you mean the Italian maffia? oh wait.....Whistling
Robgvx wrote:
Yup. Little known fact maybe.
Fill me in
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disforcfc 5/18/2022 10:53am
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Sunhouse wrote:
Typical of MXA to blame Dorna for it.
On a positive note, it marked the end of mx’s biggest groupie: McCassey
Jeremy Macbeth wrote:
http://xgames.espn.com/xgames/action/fmx/article/4209891/hello-my-name-…

Interviewer: My most prized possessions are:
McCassey: Hands down the Lord...

Good grief, the douche even refers to The Lord as one of his possessions.
Damn so he ain’t gone I love ethika but now that I know it’s his fml lol
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