Herlings injury update and AMA motocross possibilty

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4/21/2022 8:19am
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Red Bud was tamed down for Red Bud ??? I was there and it was the exact same track with a new start. It rained pretty...
Red Bud was tamed down for Red Bud ??? I was there and it was the exact same track with a new start.
It rained pretty much the whole time if that is what you call tamed down. But I always figured that to be part of the racing right ? Would you consider 100 degrees and dusty in the summer this year if Herlings was to be here tamed down ??
Only commenting on Red Bud for MXON. I was there too, the rain was definitely a spoiler for that race. But to say that the track...
Only commenting on Red Bud for MXON.

I was there too, the rain was definitely a spoiler for that race. But to say that the track was the same as the national was, isn’t fair. The track was prepared quite differently for the MXON. This was mentioned several times be the riders and others who attended the race.

Regardless of the prep, our guys should have been better !
davis224 wrote:
I think the biggest "prep" issue is that they expected lines to form like the national, but there were only a handful of AMA guys riding...
I think the biggest "prep" issue is that they expected lines to form like the national, but there were only a handful of AMA guys riding, and a ton of GP riders. So the lines formed way differently than Red Bud has ever been, more long flowing lines rather than pivot and gas it. Not much you can do about that.
This is exactly what I saw and you could see the US based riders struggle with it every lap...It was what impressed me most about the way the GP riders rode...Can't wait for this year and hopefully it will be dry...
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Marcello10 wrote:
The main italian motocross magazine just published an article saying Herlings has received the green light from his doctor to start riding again, now of course...
The main italian motocross magazine just published an article saying Herlings has received the green light from his doctor to start riding again, now of course it all depends on how his foot will feel on the bike but it’s still a good sign.

He’s 37 days away from the gate drop, fingers crossed he makes it!

https://www.motocross.it/2022/04/21/herlings-torna-in-sella/
This presumes all of the other logistical issues and what not have been sorted out? I would love to see this happen, but besides his health and fitness, surely there are still some other issues that could keep this from happening (contracts, etc.)? Anyone have more detail on that side of this?
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Well… that’s a different perspective and I don’t disagree with it. But they also ripped it deeper than they do for the national and with the...
Well… that’s a different perspective and I don’t disagree with it. But they also ripped it deeper than they do for the national and with the rain, it created a completely different race track.
Again… not much you can do about that either.

To be clear, the euros are clearly faster in the mud and the front runners of MXGP have gotten faster over the years. They made all the AMA guys look silly in that race.
Solid take on the MXoN. On the silly subject why was Barcia running a tube at the MXoN when mousse tubes have been the program for outdoors at all the Nationals. Barcia is an excellent mud rider and that flat really hurt the US.
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Marcello10 wrote:
The main italian motocross magazine just published an article saying Herlings has received the green light from his doctor to start riding again, now of course...
The main italian motocross magazine just published an article saying Herlings has received the green light from his doctor to start riding again, now of course it all depends on how his foot will feel on the bike but it’s still a good sign.

He’s 37 days away from the gate drop, fingers crossed he makes it!

https://www.motocross.it/2022/04/21/herlings-torna-in-sella/
Finally some good news!
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A 'retired' Tony Cairoli, with next to no MX experiences in the States, will run with or ahead of ET, DF and all other contenders for the four rounds he is supposed to do.

Awesome, High Point is #4. He'll probably win there.

If he's at or near the points lead after four rounds, hopefully he'll continue onwards.
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Mick 22 wrote:
A 'retired' Tony Cairoli, with next to no MX experiences in the States, will run with or ahead of ET, DF and all other contenders for...
A 'retired' Tony Cairoli, with next to no MX experiences in the States, will run with or ahead of ET, DF and all other contenders for the four rounds he is supposed to do.

Awesome, High Point is #4. He'll probably win there.

If he's at or near the points lead after four rounds, hopefully he'll continue onwards.
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4/23/2022 10:22am
Mick 22 wrote:
A 'retired' Tony Cairoli, with next to no MX experiences in the States, will run with or ahead of ET, DF and all other contenders for...
A 'retired' Tony Cairoli, with next to no MX experiences in the States, will run with or ahead of ET, DF and all other contenders for the four rounds he is supposed to do.

Awesome, High Point is #4. He'll probably win there.

If he's at or near the points lead after four rounds, hopefully he'll continue onwards.
4 motos.
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Mick 22 wrote:
A 'retired' Tony Cairoli, with next to no MX experiences in the States, will run with or ahead of ET, DF and all other contenders for...
A 'retired' Tony Cairoli, with next to no MX experiences in the States, will run with or ahead of ET, DF and all other contenders for the four rounds he is supposed to do.

Awesome, High Point is #4. He'll probably win there.

If he's at or near the points lead after four rounds, hopefully he'll continue onwards.
Easy killer
Obvious troll.
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Mick 22 wrote:
A 'retired' Tony Cairoli, with next to no MX experiences in the States, will run with or ahead of ET, DF and all other contenders for...
A 'retired' Tony Cairoli, with next to no MX experiences in the States, will run with or ahead of ET, DF and all other contenders for the four rounds he is supposed to do.

Awesome, High Point is #4. He'll probably win there.

If he's at or near the points lead after four rounds, hopefully he'll continue onwards.
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-MAVERICK- wrote:
Obvious troll.
And clueless lol
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Will everyone genuinely be surprised if he’s running up front? I won’t.
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Will everyone genuinely be surprised if he’s running up front? I won’t.
Let's put it this way...if our guys can't beat him early on after coming back from an injury then it's gonna be a long Summer.

Our guys almost have to beat Jeffrey early on for confidence and since he is coming back from an injury he shouldn't be up to speed like they have been from racing every weekend.
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4/23/2022 12:19pm
Marcello10 wrote:
The main italian motocross magazine just published an article saying Herlings has received the green light from his doctor to start riding again, now of course...
The main italian motocross magazine just published an article saying Herlings has received the green light from his doctor to start riding again, now of course it all depends on how his foot will feel on the bike but it’s still a good sign.

He’s 37 days away from the gate drop, fingers crossed he makes it!

https://www.motocross.it/2022/04/21/herlings-torna-in-sella/
Hopefully he'll come over and race himself into shape; don't see why he can't take it easy the first few rounds if he's still not up to strength. Damn I hope it happens.
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From Racerhead:

The bad news is that while we get Cairoli, we probably are not going to see “The Bullet” Jeffrey Herlings after all, as it sounds like #84 will need more time to get his fractured heel sorted.
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4/23/2022 12:51pm Edited Date/Time 4/23/2022 12:51pm
-MAVERICK- wrote:
From Racerhead: [Quote]The bad news is that while we get Cairoli, we probably are not going to see “The Bullet” Jeffrey Herlings after all, as it...
From Racerhead:

The bad news is that while we get Cairoli, we probably are not going to see “The Bullet” Jeffrey Herlings after all, as it sounds like #84 will need more time to get his fractured heel sorted.
I think there’s still a good level of uncertainty around this situation. He’s saying he won’t come over because he’ll need more time to get his heel fixed and at the same time motocross.it heard from Mattighofen that he’s been cleared to ride, I’d like to hear about their sources. Maybe just an interview with Smeets or Gruebel this weekend in Kegums could clear the air
4/23/2022 1:33pm
-MAVERICK- wrote:
From Racerhead: [Quote]The bad news is that while we get Cairoli, we probably are not going to see “The Bullet” Jeffrey Herlings after all, as it...
From Racerhead:

The bad news is that while we get Cairoli, we probably are not going to see “The Bullet” Jeffrey Herlings after all, as it sounds like #84 will need more time to get his fractured heel sorted.
Boo!
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-MAVERICK- wrote:
From Racerhead: [Quote]The bad news is that while we get Cairoli, we probably are not going to see “The Bullet” Jeffrey Herlings after all, as it...
From Racerhead:

The bad news is that while we get Cairoli, we probably are not going to see “The Bullet” Jeffrey Herlings after all, as it sounds like #84 will need more time to get his fractured heel sorted.
Anybody else here ever had fractured heals? Unfortunately those things take a looooooonnnnnnnngggggg time to heel.
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Heels are a very harsh injury, even tho you get cleared you feel like your foot is trashed and can’t put much stress on it and that’s how it will feel until you get the subtailor joint fused. That’s how that injury works. So however he feels now is how it’s going to be and that is a bit of going threw it and learning you have to deal with that pain.
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CPR wrote:
Anybody else here ever had fractured heals? Unfortunately those things take a looooooonnnnnnnngggggg time to heel.
I had. I know.
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Marcello10 wrote:
The main italian motocross magazine just published an article saying Herlings has received the green light from his doctor to start riding again, now of course...
The main italian motocross magazine just published an article saying Herlings has received the green light from his doctor to start riding again, now of course it all depends on how his foot will feel on the bike but it’s still a good sign.

He’s 37 days away from the gate drop, fingers crossed he makes it!

https://www.motocross.it/2022/04/21/herlings-torna-in-sella/
According to google translator, and provided it is accurate, it looks like he did not get a full green light to start riding again, more like just a test:

The track awaits him next week: finally for him and for all fans of this sport. There is still time to dust off the helmet and clean up the boots and then the five-time world champion could go back to what for him represents normality: riding a motocross bike. The news gathered in the Mattighofen offices speaks of a clearance from the medical team for a test on the saddle from which it will be understood whether the Dutch champion will be able to resume training on a motorcycle continuously.
It is clear that if the outcome of the test were to be positive, the hypothesis of seeing the KTM officer at the start of the Pala race at the end of May could become concrete.
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If Herlings does ride the Nationals odds are he will get hurt before completing the series.

He is great but he is injury prone and ET, CS, DF, AC, JA, and even KR (at times) will push him hard.
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Marcello10 wrote:
The main italian motocross magazine just published an article saying Herlings has received the green light from his doctor to start riding again, now of course...
The main italian motocross magazine just published an article saying Herlings has received the green light from his doctor to start riding again, now of course it all depends on how his foot will feel on the bike but it’s still a good sign.

He’s 37 days away from the gate drop, fingers crossed he makes it!

https://www.motocross.it/2022/04/21/herlings-torna-in-sella/
line-up wrote:
According to google translator, and provided it is accurate, it looks like he did not get a full green light to start riding again, more like...
According to google translator, and provided it is accurate, it looks like he did not get a full green light to start riding again, more like just a test:

The track awaits him next week: finally for him and for all fans of this sport. There is still time to dust off the helmet and clean up the boots and then the five-time world champion could go back to what for him represents normality: riding a motocross bike. The news gathered in the Mattighofen offices speaks of a clearance from the medical team for a test on the saddle from which it will be understood whether the Dutch champion will be able to resume training on a motorcycle continuously.
It is clear that if the outcome of the test were to be positive, the hypothesis of seeing the KTM officer at the start of the Pala race at the end of May could become concrete.
Yeah I’m Italian, of course for green light I meant that they probably gave him the ok to start riding again after evaluating his foot and a few scans, not that in their opinion he wouldn’t have felt any pain or problems riding, since he hadn’t been on the bike yet it’s obvious how they couldn’t have known that
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Marcello10 wrote:
The main italian motocross magazine just published an article saying Herlings has received the green light from his doctor to start riding again, now of course...
The main italian motocross magazine just published an article saying Herlings has received the green light from his doctor to start riding again, now of course it all depends on how his foot will feel on the bike but it’s still a good sign.

He’s 37 days away from the gate drop, fingers crossed he makes it!

https://www.motocross.it/2022/04/21/herlings-torna-in-sella/
line-up wrote:
According to google translator, and provided it is accurate, it looks like he did not get a full green light to start riding again, more like...
According to google translator, and provided it is accurate, it looks like he did not get a full green light to start riding again, more like just a test:

The track awaits him next week: finally for him and for all fans of this sport. There is still time to dust off the helmet and clean up the boots and then the five-time world champion could go back to what for him represents normality: riding a motocross bike. The news gathered in the Mattighofen offices speaks of a clearance from the medical team for a test on the saddle from which it will be understood whether the Dutch champion will be able to resume training on a motorcycle continuously.
It is clear that if the outcome of the test were to be positive, the hypothesis of seeing the KTM officer at the start of the Pala race at the end of May could become concrete.
Marcello10 wrote:
Yeah I’m Italian, of course for green light I meant that they probably gave him the ok to start riding again after evaluating his foot and...
Yeah I’m Italian, of course for green light I meant that they probably gave him the ok to start riding again after evaluating his foot and a few scans, not that in their opinion he wouldn’t have felt any pain or problems riding, since he hadn’t been on the bike yet it’s obvious how they couldn’t have known that
Herlings is not taking any risks with this foot injury.
He recently said that the neck injury that cost him another title was because he couldn't put weight on his foot properly and deliberately took it easy to save the foot.
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Easy killer
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Obvious troll.
mxb2 wrote:
And clueless lol
Very good.

For you non-troll, clued-in geniuses.

Here is my top eleven of the world's current fastest MX'ers. Why 11? Why not?

Yours might vary, and I do not give a shit. Opinions are opinions, and feces are feces.

I'm looking forward to seeing a couple of Euros on orange bikes if/when they come to Mount Morris.


Herlings
Gajser
Roczen
Tomac
Ferrandis
Anderson
Sexton
Cianciarulo
Renaux
Febvre
Prado

AC 222 fits somewhere in between 3 and 11, but he's retired, so not listed.
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Very unprofessional that a big company like ktm has not done a single update of herlings injuries in 3 months........😬😬😬
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Herlings is going to ride a bike this week according to MX Vice. If that is true, i think we'll have the answer to whether he is heading to USA or not.
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4/25/2022 6:04am
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Obvious troll.
mxb2 wrote:
And clueless lol
Mick 22 wrote:
Very good. For you non-troll, clued-in geniuses. Here is my top eleven of the world's current fastest MX'ers. Why 11? Why not? Yours might vary, and...
Very good.

For you non-troll, clued-in geniuses.

Here is my top eleven of the world's current fastest MX'ers. Why 11? Why not?

Yours might vary, and I do not give a shit. Opinions are opinions, and feces are feces.

I'm looking forward to seeing a couple of Euros on orange bikes if/when they come to Mount Morris.


Herlings
Gajser
Roczen
Tomac
Ferrandis
Anderson
Sexton
Cianciarulo
Renaux
Febvre
Prado

AC 222 fits somewhere in between 3 and 11, but he's retired, so not listed.
How do u even come up with a result like this.
U say "current" so either herlings an febvre should be way down or ranked based of last years results. in the last 5 rounds herlings was fastest but febvre was clearly 2nd and gasjer was a fair way back.
So I don't know how you come up with herlings 1, gasjer 2 and febvre 10th.

Not to mention Kenny infront of ferrandis.
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mxb2 wrote:
And clueless lol
Mick 22 wrote:
Very good. For you non-troll, clued-in geniuses. Here is my top eleven of the world's current fastest MX'ers. Why 11? Why not? Yours might vary, and...
Very good.

For you non-troll, clued-in geniuses.

Here is my top eleven of the world's current fastest MX'ers. Why 11? Why not?

Yours might vary, and I do not give a shit. Opinions are opinions, and feces are feces.

I'm looking forward to seeing a couple of Euros on orange bikes if/when they come to Mount Morris.


Herlings
Gajser
Roczen
Tomac
Ferrandis
Anderson
Sexton
Cianciarulo
Renaux
Febvre
Prado

AC 222 fits somewhere in between 3 and 11, but he's retired, so not listed.
mx313 wrote:
How do u even come up with a result like this. U say "current" so either herlings an febvre should be way down or ranked based...
How do u even come up with a result like this.
U say "current" so either herlings an febvre should be way down or ranked based of last years results. in the last 5 rounds herlings was fastest but febvre was clearly 2nd and gasjer was a fair way back.
So I don't know how you come up with herlings 1, gasjer 2 and febvre 10th.

Not to mention Kenny infront of ferrandis.
X2. Kroc isnt better than dylan or eli.
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mxb2 wrote:
And clueless lol
Mick 22 wrote:
Very good. For you non-troll, clued-in geniuses. Here is my top eleven of the world's current fastest MX'ers. Why 11? Why not? Yours might vary, and...
Very good.

For you non-troll, clued-in geniuses.

Here is my top eleven of the world's current fastest MX'ers. Why 11? Why not?

Yours might vary, and I do not give a shit. Opinions are opinions, and feces are feces.

I'm looking forward to seeing a couple of Euros on orange bikes if/when they come to Mount Morris.


Herlings
Gajser
Roczen
Tomac
Ferrandis
Anderson
Sexton
Cianciarulo
Renaux
Febvre
Prado

AC 222 fits somewhere in between 3 and 11, but he's retired, so not listed.
mx313 wrote:
How do u even come up with a result like this. U say "current" so either herlings an febvre should be way down or ranked based...
How do u even come up with a result like this.
U say "current" so either herlings an febvre should be way down or ranked based of last years results. in the last 5 rounds herlings was fastest but febvre was clearly 2nd and gasjer was a fair way back.
So I don't know how you come up with herlings 1, gasjer 2 and febvre 10th.

Not to mention Kenny infront of ferrandis.
Febvre and Prado behind Renaux but they're all behind Anderson Huh
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4/25/2022 10:04am Edited Date/Time 4/25/2022 10:06am
Mick 22 wrote:
Very good. For you non-troll, clued-in geniuses. Here is my top eleven of the world's current fastest MX'ers. Why 11? Why not? Yours might vary, and...
Very good.

For you non-troll, clued-in geniuses.

Here is my top eleven of the world's current fastest MX'ers. Why 11? Why not?

Yours might vary, and I do not give a shit. Opinions are opinions, and feces are feces.

I'm looking forward to seeing a couple of Euros on orange bikes if/when they come to Mount Morris.


Herlings
Gajser
Roczen
Tomac
Ferrandis
Anderson
Sexton
Cianciarulo
Renaux
Febvre
Prado

AC 222 fits somewhere in between 3 and 11, but he's retired, so not listed.
mx313 wrote:
How do u even come up with a result like this. U say "current" so either herlings an febvre should be way down or ranked based...
How do u even come up with a result like this.
U say "current" so either herlings an febvre should be way down or ranked based of last years results. in the last 5 rounds herlings was fastest but febvre was clearly 2nd and gasjer was a fair way back.
So I don't know how you come up with herlings 1, gasjer 2 and febvre 10th.

Not to mention Kenny infront of ferrandis.
Juck wrote:
Febvre and Prado behind Renaux but they're all behind Anderson Huh
Correct. IMO, #21 is the second fastest American MX'er, at least until we see what #23 and #92 do this summer.


Another opinion. When he is 'ON', #94 is the fastest guy in the world. He hasn't been on very much since devastating injuries, but he has shown signs even recently, so he gets one more try at it and we'll all see how he does. It wouldn't surprise me much at all if he's faster than everyone else on the track.


Looking forward to the Nationals. Supercross doesn't do much for me, but that's just me.


TG 243 is looking great this year, as usual. Was hoping he'd come back to the US, but like the Bullet this year (maybe), this won't happen except under certain circumstances.
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4/25/2022 1:28pm Edited Date/Time 4/25/2022 1:42pm
I dunno if that has been stated in here yet but Paul Perebijnos stated on the ‘Renthal Reaction’ podcast today that Herlings has no interest in racing the GP’s this year and REALLY wants to come race in the states and be in a championship hunt this year and that the decision would be made sometime in April.

But also that it’s almost to the point of no return of making it happen since he’s at the mercy of his injury and the healing process. So… fingers crossed that the test ride goes well and he can get cleared!

I know that’s been the floating story but it gave me a little bit of hope when I heard it put in those terms.
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