Hunter Lawrence 450?

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Dirt.Squirt 3/22/2022 6:45pm
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Hate stupid vague ass posts like this
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wide open wally 3/22/2022 7:38pm
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Mavetism wrote:
He was btw still 17 by that time, only a couple weeks before his 18th birthday I think. Unreal that he basically had the speed to...
He was btw still 17 by that time, only a couple weeks before his 18th birthday I think. Unreal that he basically had the speed to pass Andrew Short that night for the win but he didn't go for it.. It was on the 350 right?
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He was on a 350.
Bacon_n_Egg'r wrote:
Marvin also did 4 races on the 350 in 2012, including a 4th place in the Daytona mudder. https://vault.racerxonline.com/rider/marvin-musquin/races I thought McElrath also did East Rutherford...
Marvin also did 4 races on the 350 in 2012, including a 4th place in the Daytona mudder.

https://vault.racerxonline.com/rider/marvin-musquin/races

I thought McElrath also did East Rutherford on a 350 with TLD-KTM, but the Vault shows him on a 450 back in 2015.

In 2013, Tomac did 4 east races on the 450. Malcolm rode a TLD Honda 450 at Daytona in 2013, J-Mart had that one Daytona in 2017 and 3 races in 2018 but I'm struggling to think of more. HRC has in the past used Craig, Seely and Wil Hahn to fill in on the 450.

In fact in recent times Honda really has been the manufacturer to move guys up more than anyone else. So maybe there is truth in this Hunter conspiracy.
Dungey also did 3 450 races at 18 in 2008.
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I am of the opinion the Lawrence brothers need to put on some muscle mass from weight lifting before making the jump to the 450 class full time
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Johnny Ringo wrote:
The last time an 18 year old moved up and raced the premier class in Seattle it went horribly wrong..[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/03/22/539534/s1200_254E15B1_D216_41A5_B5C6_5F3606BD977F.jpg[/img]
The last time an 18 year old moved up and raced the premier class in Seattle it went horribly wrong..

Mavetism wrote:
He was btw still 17 by that time, only a couple weeks before his 18th birthday I think. Unreal that he basically had the speed to...
He was btw still 17 by that time, only a couple weeks before his 18th birthday I think. Unreal that he basically had the speed to pass Andrew Short that night for the win but he didn't go for it.. It was on the 350 right?
If I am not mistaken I think I remember a 15 year old Roczen pass Short on the 250 at Thunder Valley, and a bunch of other guys like Townley for example

I was wrong, he had turned 16 that year Tongue
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tobz 3/23/2022 3:05am
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Hunter needs a new number font...
It’s horrible, right? That font doesn’t belong on number plates.
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Gary Duck wrote:
Hunter needs a new number font...
tobz wrote:
It’s horrible, right? That font doesn’t belong on number plates.
Horrible is the correct description
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vansnxtweek489 3/23/2022 4:27am
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Ozy wrote:
I am of the opinion the Lawrence brothers need to put on some muscle mass from weight lifting before making the jump to the 450 class...
I am of the opinion the Lawrence brothers need to put on some muscle mass from weight lifting before making the jump to the 450 class full time
Marvin disagrees.
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quadzrulebro 3/23/2022 4:48am
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Will he get slice from Roczens 3M$ check?
After 6 years of that pay check without a single championship to show for it, I’d say the Steve Astephen has earned his slice of that pie. The Pulp Show with Steve on it was a great insight on how that whole system works. I was floored when Astephen revealed the he was able to eliminate the injury clause from the contract.
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What age was Ken Roczen when he raced a 350 at Daytona in 2011 during his MX2 title year?
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Juck wrote:
Stirring the pot still or is he actually moving up? What do you reckon?[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/03/22/539582/s1200_Screenshot_20220323_113643.jpg[/img]
Stirring the pot still or is he actually moving up? What do you reckon?
Thats the older style triple clamps / number plate / front fender.
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A lot of 250 riders will ride 450 outdoors instead of heavily modded 250s
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r103 wrote:
What age was Ken Roczen when he raced a 350 at Daytona in 2011 during his MX2 title year?
16.
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tek14 wrote:
Will he get slice from Roczens 3M$ check?
quadzrulebro wrote:
After 6 years of that pay check without a single championship to show for it, I’d say the Steve Astephen has earned his slice of that...
After 6 years of that pay check without a single championship to show for it, I’d say the Steve Astephen has earned his slice of that pie. The Pulp Show with Steve on it was a great insight on how that whole system works. I was floored when Astephen revealed the he was able to eliminate the injury clause from the contract.
Assuming the wrap up is where it was talked about?
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tek14 wrote:
Will he get slice from Roczens 3M$ check?
quadzrulebro wrote:
After 6 years of that pay check without a single championship to show for it, I’d say the Steve Astephen has earned his slice of that...
After 6 years of that pay check without a single championship to show for it, I’d say the Steve Astephen has earned his slice of that pie. The Pulp Show with Steve on it was a great insight on how that whole system works. I was floored when Astephen revealed the he was able to eliminate the injury clause from the contract.
4DAIVIPAI2K5 wrote:
Assuming the wrap up is where it was talked about? [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/03/23/539753/s1200_Screenshot_20220323_191513_Pocket_Casts.jpg[/img]
Assuming the wrap up is where it was talked about?
I believe episode 408 was Stephen talking about how much Kenny gets paid and laughs at other agents for not getting their guys the best deals.
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Are we movimg into an era where 250 guys will rode 450 on opposite coasts and 450 guys will ride 250 if the moneys there? It seems like it.
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Gives Hunter a little warm up/experience if Australia picks him for Team Oz at MXON. I think they are both slam dunks for Team Oz.
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Hunter & Chase 450 SX/MX 2023
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captmoto wrote:
Gives Hunter a little warm up/experience if Australia picks him for Team Oz at MXON. I think they are both slam dunks for Team Oz.
Lawrence brothers r 2 fastest aus riders currently, they r automatic pics .
Beaton,Webster,clout, Evans r in the mix for the 3 rd rider....
My team Lawrence bros n Evans
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captmoto wrote:
Gives Hunter a little warm up/experience if Australia picks him for Team Oz at MXON. I think they are both slam dunks for Team Oz.
bowl wrote:
Lawrence brothers r 2 fastest aus riders currently, they r automatic pics . Beaton,Webster,clout, Evans r in the mix for the 3 rd rider.... My team...
Lawrence brothers r 2 fastest aus riders currently, they r automatic pics .
Beaton,Webster,clout, Evans r in the mix for the 3 rd rider....
My team Lawrence bros n Evans
Def the lawrence brothers and whoever has the best season of beaton and Evans. It would be cool If the whole aus team was on factory hrc. It might be a little unaustralian but the gear and bike could be Aussie flag themed red white and blue rather then the typical green and gold.
It's also been disappointing we havnt been going I would have liked to see jett vs vialle.
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captmoto wrote:
Gives Hunter a little warm up/experience if Australia picks him for Team Oz at MXON. I think they are both slam dunks for Team Oz.
bowl wrote:
Lawrence brothers r 2 fastest aus riders currently, they r automatic pics . Beaton,Webster,clout, Evans r in the mix for the 3 rd rider.... My team...
Lawrence brothers r 2 fastest aus riders currently, they r automatic pics .
Beaton,Webster,clout, Evans r in the mix for the 3 rd rider....
My team Lawrence bros n Evans
mx313 wrote:
Def the lawrence brothers and whoever has the best season of beaton and Evans. It would be cool If the whole aus team was on factory...
Def the lawrence brothers and whoever has the best season of beaton and Evans. It would be cool If the whole aus team was on factory hrc. It might be a little unaustralian but the gear and bike could be Aussie flag themed red white and blue rather then the typical green and gold.
It's also been disappointing we havnt been going I would have liked to see jett vs vialle.
All HRC Aussie team makes sense, let’s hope they all stay healthy.
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block75 3/25/2022 1:35am
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I would go both Lawrence Bros and Webster on the other 450 at MXoN. This weekend will really see how good Webster is on his 450 debut at Wonthaggi
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block75 wrote:
I would go both Lawrence Bros and Webster on the other 450 at MXoN. This weekend will really see how good Webster is on his 450...
I would go both Lawrence Bros and Webster on the other 450 at MXoN. This weekend will really see how good Webster is on his 450 debut at Wonthaggi
I believe a 8th in mxgp is ahead of winning aus mx. Unless the winner is extremely dominant. Should be interesting. Clout seems to be a little off in preseason races. I don't think he has won a overall. Tanti looks like he is getting stronger. Ferris and Waters I think have lost there edge, they will still be fast and competing for wins but I don't think the will be great every weekend like they were in 2018.
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block75 wrote:
I would go both Lawrence Bros and Webster on the other 450 at MXoN. This weekend will really see how good Webster is on his 450...
I would go both Lawrence Bros and Webster on the other 450 at MXoN. This weekend will really see how good Webster is on his 450 debut at Wonthaggi
I get where you’re coming from, and Webster is impressive, but Evans, and Beaton as reserve, have the edge for me with racing the same euro’s they’ll face at MXdN, on a regular basis.
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If I had to pick a team for the MXoN now I'd probably go with the Lawrence bros and Evans but that could definitely change.

There's a lot of unknowns with Aussie riders right now, such as if/how quickly Evans can get back to his previous form, how good Webster is going to be, how much better can Beaton get on the 450 in his rookie year, are there any other Aussies in our domestic series that are gonna step it up this year, etc.

We haven't even seen either of the Lawrence bros ride a 450 yet and there's a lot of solid 450 riders to choose from so even though they're both well established on the 250 putting either on the 450 is a bit of a gamble if we don't see them race it first.
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Thisusernameisavailable 3/25/2022 2:34am
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kpiper wrote:
Why would he move to the 450 for Seattle?

Hunter should stay in the 250 class for 2023. Jett should move to the 450 for 2023.
Puzzling why you've got so many down-votes! This makes good sense!

Jett is gonna wrap up the SX, then he's gonna clean up outdoors, so what's left to prove in '23? If Jett stays in 250s for '23. the season will be a yawner.

Whereas Hunter, he can take over where Jett left off and win for Honda in the 250s in '23.
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Johnny Ringo 3/25/2022 6:07am
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kpiper wrote:
Why would he move to the 450 for Seattle?

Hunter should stay in the 250 class for 2023. Jett should move to the 450 for 2023.
Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
Puzzling why you've got so many down-votes! This makes good sense! Jett is gonna wrap up the SX, then he's gonna clean up outdoors, so what's...
Puzzling why you've got so many down-votes! This makes good sense!

Jett is gonna wrap up the SX, then he's gonna clean up outdoors, so what's left to prove in '23? If Jett stays in 250s for '23. the season will be a yawner.

Whereas Hunter, he can take over where Jett left off and win for Honda in the 250s in '23.
I get downvoted every time I say Jett should move up next year. Maybe vital just likes sandbaggers?
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captmoto 3/25/2022 7:53am
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CPR wrote:
I get where you’re coming from, and Webster is impressive, but Evans, and Beaton as reserve, have the edge for me with racing the same euro’s...
I get where you’re coming from, and Webster is impressive, but Evans, and Beaton as reserve, have the edge for me with racing the same euro’s they’ll face at MXdN, on a regular basis.
The Lawrence Bros. have Euro and Red Bud experience and it's a lot cheaper for Oz since they and their equipment are already here.
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kpiper 3/25/2022 8:29am
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kpiper wrote:
Why would he move to the 450 for Seattle?

Hunter should stay in the 250 class for 2023. Jett should move to the 450 for 2023.
Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
Puzzling why you've got so many down-votes! This makes good sense! Jett is gonna wrap up the SX, then he's gonna clean up outdoors, so what's...
Puzzling why you've got so many down-votes! This makes good sense!

Jett is gonna wrap up the SX, then he's gonna clean up outdoors, so what's left to prove in '23? If Jett stays in 250s for '23. the season will be a yawner.

Whereas Hunter, he can take over where Jett left off and win for Honda in the 250s in '23.
Jett should move up in 2023 without a doubt. You are 100% right.

It will actually hurt his overall career to stay 250 for another year.
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kpiper 3/25/2022 8:32am
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Johnny Ringo wrote:
I get downvoted every time I say Jett should move up next year. Maybe vital just likes sandbaggers?
Seems like some silly notion that a 19-year-old can't ride a 450??? WTH.

There must be a ton of non-racers (or girls) that comment here.
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