Sexton shouldn’t be allowed to race Arlington

soggy wrote:

Big difference is Those doctors work for the nfl team. Chase’s doctor works for chase.

RaceFace58 wrote:

What does that mean? Chase (ahem Honda) is going to find a Dr. who is going to err on the side of racing. He was already...

What does that mean? Chase (ahem Honda) is going to find a Dr. who is going to err on the side of racing. He was already out cycling Monday which isn’t what you should be doing BEFORE going through the protocol, if indeed concussed. I was just reading how Bubba got Ko’d in 2016 and his Doc’s cleared him to race the following week and he had to pull off the track as he was suffering blurred vision. I would bet Chase will be out there this week and I would also bet he suffered a concussion.

kiwifan wrote:

why did you guys always take a negative approach, just because YOU do not think he should race then Honda or Chase or both must be...

why did you guys always take a negative approach, just because YOU do not think he should race then Honda or Chase or both must be finding a doctor so he can race....why state that opinion in such a massively negative light. Cannot you be a slightest bit reasonable or positive? or do you all live your lives so negatively?

for all your experts/caring people here know Honda and/or Chase want the best doctor possible to ensure he IS ok to race!! FFS

RaceFace58 wrote:

What does that mean? Chase (ahem Honda) is going to find a Dr. who is going to err on the side of racing. He was already...

What does that mean? Chase (ahem Honda) is going to find a Dr. who is going to err on the side of racing. He was already out cycling Monday which isn’t what you should be doing BEFORE going through the protocol, if indeed concussed. I was just reading how Bubba got Ko’d in 2016 and his Doc’s cleared him to race the following week and he had to pull off the track as he was suffering blurred vision. I would bet Chase will be out there this week and I would also bet he suffered a concussion.

kiwifan wrote:

why did you guys always take a negative approach, just because YOU do not think he should race then Honda or Chase or both must be...

why did you guys always take a negative approach, just because YOU do not think he should race then Honda or Chase or both must be finding a doctor so he can race....why state that opinion in such a massively negative light. Cannot you be a slightest bit reasonable or positive? or do you all live your lives so negatively?

for all your experts/caring people here know Honda and/or Chase want the best doctor possible to ensure he IS ok to race!! FFS

RaceFace58 wrote:

First of all I don’t think he shouldn’t race. All I’m saying is I doubt he would sit no matter what they found. You though acting...

First of all I don’t think he shouldn’t race. All I’m saying is I doubt he would sit no matter what they found. You though acting as if Honda is some kind of bastion for all that is good…..they are in my opinion the most cutthroat team going. For informational purposes look how MC’s and RC’s time with Honda ended. They both made Honda eat shit for years after but at the same time neither was pleased with how they were treated at the end.

RaceFace58 wrote:

First of all I don’t think he shouldn’t race. All I’m saying is I doubt he would sit no matter what they found. You though acting...

First of all I don’t think he shouldn’t race. All I’m saying is I doubt he would sit no matter what they found. You though acting as if Honda is some kind of bastion for all that is good…..they are in my opinion the most cutthroat team going. For informational purposes look how MC’s and RC’s time with Honda ended. They both made Honda eat shit for years after but at the same time neither was pleased with how they were treated at the end.

kiwifan wrote:

why did you guys always take a negative approach, just because YOU do not think he should race then Honda or Chase or both must be...

why did you guys always take a negative approach, just because YOU do not think he should race then Honda or Chase or both must be finding a doctor so he can race....why state that opinion in such a massively negative light. Cannot you be a slightest bit reasonable or positive? or do you all live your lives so negatively?

for all your experts/caring people here know Honda and/or Chase want the best doctor possible to ensure he IS ok to race!! FFS

RaceFace58 wrote:

First of all I don’t think he shouldn’t race. All I’m saying is I doubt he would sit no matter what they found. You though acting...

First of all I don’t think he shouldn’t race. All I’m saying is I doubt he would sit no matter what they found. You though acting as if Honda is some kind of bastion for all that is good…..they are in my opinion the most cutthroat team going. For informational purposes look how MC’s and RC’s time with Honda ended. They both made Honda eat shit for years after but at the same time neither was pleased with how they were treated at the end.

DonM wrote:

You need to listen to the podcast I posted above so you can be more informed regarding the facts on how SX/MX handles concussions. Lots of...

You need to listen to the podcast I posted above so you can be more informed regarding the facts on how SX/MX handles concussions. Lots of speculation in this thread without knowledge…

RaceFace58 wrote:

First of all I don’t think he shouldn’t race. All I’m saying is I doubt he would sit no matter what they found. You though acting...

First of all I don’t think he shouldn’t race. All I’m saying is I doubt he would sit no matter what they found. You though acting as if Honda is some kind of bastion for all that is good…..they are in my opinion the most cutthroat team going. For informational purposes look how MC’s and RC’s time with Honda ended. They both made Honda eat shit for years after but at the same time neither was pleased with how they were treated at the end.

DonM wrote:

You need to listen to the podcast I posted above so you can be more informed regarding the facts on how SX/MX handles concussions. Lots of...

You need to listen to the podcast I posted above so you can be more informed regarding the facts on how SX/MX handles concussions. Lots of speculation in this thread without knowledge…

RaceFace58 wrote:

Well I know Doc Bodnar isn’t the one person who decides as I’ve seen you put a few times now. But I guess you aren’t aware...

Well I know Doc Bodnar isn’t the one person who decides as I’ve seen you put a few times now. But I guess you aren’t aware of what happened between MC and Honda. Certainly my take on Honda is far from ridiculous. You’re allowed to disagree but MC was not happy with them at all when he left based on how they treated him. Because he took their money later on doesn’t for a second change that they pissed him off when he went left.

zachsmotoing wrote:

After that hit and seeing him struggle to move afterwards he obviously had a injury to his brain . I felt like I was watching a...

After that hit and seeing him struggle to move afterwards he obviously had a injury to his brain . I felt like I was watching a UFC fighter after getting tkoed. Seeing his post I think he is gonna race but I feel like someone shouldn’t allow him weather that’s the team or the series idk…

Hank_Thrill wrote:

This reminds me so much of James Stewart's 2011 Daytona endo thread. Anybody else remember that one?

zachsmotoing wrote:

After that hit and seeing him struggle to move afterwards he obviously had a injury to his brain . I felt like I was watching a...

After that hit and seeing him struggle to move afterwards he obviously had a injury to his brain . I felt like I was watching a UFC fighter after getting tkoed. Seeing his post I think he is gonna race but I feel like someone shouldn’t allow him weather that’s the team or the series idk…

Grimm Reefer 420 wrote:

You guys do realize him and honda are going to do what they want right?

sandtrack315 wrote:

Lots of armchair neuroscientists and neurologists on vital, but no one here knows he has a concussion. 1. If you watch the crash, his head does...

Lots of armchair neuroscientists and neurologists on vital, but no one here knows he has a concussion.

1. If you watch the crash, his head does make it over the take off, and he rolls pretty well, so no sudden stop. It's not obvious that he had a lot of force applied to his skull.

2. Yeah, he was flustered after the crash, but the guy was panicking that he was going from winning to last place, his heart rate was just at 180 for 20 minutes. This is expected.

If it's me, I take an extra week off. I am not in the championship, and it's just one race. However, I get why, having passed all the tests and feeling great on the bike, he'd want to race.

We really need accelerometers on the helmets. We could study which helmets work the best, and we'd be able to give this information to neurologists to make more informed decisions about how must rest the rider needs after a hit.

Grimm Reefer 420 wrote:

You guys do realize him and honda are going to do what they want right?

DonM wrote:

Ummm….no they’re not…They are going to do what the docs decide…listen to the podcast above and you will fully understand the process…It’s not Chase’s or Honda’s...

Ummm….no they’re not…They are going to do what the docs decide…listen to the podcast above and you will fully understand the process…It’s not Chase’s or Honda’s decision….blown away by how uninformed the moto community is on the concussion protocols in place….

toroP wrote:

So if Chase is uninjured, why didn’t he get up and behave normally, get up quickly, notice the bike is fucked?
Does he have any injury?

Sully22 wrote:

Speaking of James… anyone hear Bubba talk about the Sexton crash/ incident on his recent podcast? 😳 Edit: interesting listen around the 27:00 min mark. Listen...

Speaking of James… anyone hear Bubba talk about the Sexton crash/ incident on his recent podcast? 😳

Edit: interesting listen around the 27:00 min mark. Listen for yourself… Bubba brings up/ compares it to his Daytona crash but says he doesn’t think he was as bad as chase. says chase was basically knocked out standing up… uses the term koo koo for coco puffs. Mentions something about chase probably waking up around the time the medic was preventing him from getting on his bike.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/4Hl6o4HqKQSlaBO9logG7H?si=XGFQzttGRnGc…

RaceFace58 wrote:

What does that mean? Chase (ahem Honda) is going to find a Dr. who is going to err on the side of racing. He was already...

What does that mean? Chase (ahem Honda) is going to find a Dr. who is going to err on the side of racing. He was already out cycling Monday which isn’t what you should be doing BEFORE going through the protocol, if indeed concussed. I was just reading how Bubba got Ko’d in 2016 and his Doc’s cleared him to race the following week and he had to pull off the track as he was suffering blurred vision. I would bet Chase will be out there this week and I would also bet he suffered a concussion.

kiwifan wrote:

why did you guys always take a negative approach, just because YOU do not think he should race then Honda or Chase or both must be...

why did you guys always take a negative approach, just because YOU do not think he should race then Honda or Chase or both must be finding a doctor so he can race....why state that opinion in such a massively negative light. Cannot you be a slightest bit reasonable or positive? or do you all live your lives so negatively?

for all your experts/caring people here know Honda and/or Chase want the best doctor possible to ensure he IS ok to race!! FFS

RaceFace58 wrote:

First of all I don’t think he shouldn’t race. All I’m saying is I doubt he would sit no matter what they found. You though acting...

First of all I don’t think he shouldn’t race. All I’m saying is I doubt he would sit no matter what they found. You though acting as if Honda is some kind of bastion for all that is good…..they are in my opinion the most cutthroat team going. For informational purposes look how MC’s and RC’s time with Honda ended. They both made Honda eat shit for years after but at the same time neither was pleased with how they were treated at the end.

Magoofan wrote:

I lol'd


As for racing after going down hard. What would Rex Staten do?

EDIT: Some of you youngsters might need to look that one up.

toroP wrote:

So if Chase is uninjured, why didn’t he get up and behave normally, get up quickly, notice the bike is fucked?
Does he have any injury?

davis224 wrote:

He's said before he gets overly emotional in those situations, and his heart rate was about 190 before he crashed and it no doubt spiked.

cr12500 wrote:

What a stupid take, Don. We've seen years of sports teams shoving their athletes out there while hurt to get hurt even worse. How many stories...

What a stupid take, Don. We've seen years of sports teams shoving their athletes out there while hurt to get hurt even worse. How many stories of CTEs leading to violence have we heard about in the NFL? How many motocrossers have had their careers cut short from injuries and suffered long-term effects or drug issues due to ignoring? None of us are doctors but it doesn't take much to see when someone has had their bell rung. He's probably under a lot of pressure from himself and others to bounce back after throwing away a win like that. No one wants to see someone do permanent damage to themselves over a couple of races that won't salvage his championship hopes anyway. Don't be naive.

DonM wrote:

You’re misunderstanding my position…I’m not saying that he should be allowed to race or not, what I’m saying is that the professional doctors are more qualified...

You’re misunderstanding my position…I’m not saying that he should be allowed to race or not, what I’m saying is that the professional doctors are more qualified to make that decision and have an opinion than a group of people on a message board who may or may not have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night…the naive ones art the people that think they are qualified because they saw it on TV…The Dr’s that will make the call do not have a vested interest on whether he races or not, only in what’s best for his health…

zachsmotoing wrote:

Not saying you’re right or wrong but couldn’t chase just go to different doctors till he found one to clear him ? I would say obviously...

Not saying you’re right or wrong but couldn’t chase just go to different doctors till he found one to clear him ? I would say obviously go with the professional opinion but I’m not sure the professional opinion is the right opinion because I do think a doctor could have other interest rather then just his health . Are there doctors that clear u basically no matter what just like there are doctors that will give u trt or painkillers as long as they get your business??? Just a lot of questions if u ask me And as a fan of chases I don’t think the risk out weights the reward obviously I’m not in his shoes though

neysbo wrote:

Looks like he passed the concussion protocol and was cleared to race .

neysbo wrote:

Looks like he passed the concussion protocol and was cleared to race .

aeffertz wrote:

/thread

I’m sure next week’s debate stemming from tomorrow’s race will be just as fun as this one.