Nicholas Lapucci to race a two-stroke in MXGP

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When was the last time someone raced two stroke in MXGP class?

"At the end of last year it was announced that Nicholas Lapucci would be making the move up to the MXGP World Championship with the Maddii Fantic Racing team he won the EMX250 title with. The initial plan was for Lapucci to race a 450cc four stroke but it’s now been confirmed that the Italian will line up with a 250cc two stroke in the MXGP world championship.

It’ll be pretty cool to see how Lapucci performs on the two-stroke against the four-strokes. The Italian hasn’t had the best of off-seasons as he picked up an injury but still raced the International Italian series. He might not be fully fit for the opening round but he’ll continue to improve as the season progresses.

“Two strokes land to MXGP World Championship. We’re glad to announce that Nicholas Lapucci will compete in the MXGP World Championship on the Factory Fantic XX250. The great successes achieved pushed us in this exciting adventure, making two-strokes lovers even more thrilled of this new chapter. Can’t wait to let ourselves be totally overwhelmed by the strong enthusiasm of 2022 world championship”, Fantic stated on social media."

https://gatedrop.com/nicholas-lapucci-to-race-a-two-stroke-in-mxgp
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The last rider to race whole MX1 on 2smoke was Cedric Soubeyras on Sarholz KTM. 2009 i guess???
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tek14 2/15/2022 12:17am
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He is tiny rider and 450 seemed to hard task for him. Tuned 2-stroke could give him decent results on some rounds.
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roninho 2/15/2022 1:15am
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I think Rick Satink did Lierop on a 2stroke in 2013 and finished 10th overall
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Muscle-Milk-KTM 2/15/2022 1:27am
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Lewis Gregory rode a 2 stroke at Matterley Basin in 2015.
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Derpin' DJ 2/15/2022 3:19am
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Cool, as long as he is doing it for the right reasons, and not just for social media
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Derpin' DJ wrote:
Cool, as long as he is doing it for the right reasons, and not just for social media
Exposure and making money isn’t the right reason… so what is?
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Muscle-Milk-KTM 2/15/2022 4:52am
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Muscle-Milk-KTM wrote:
Lewis Gregory rode a 2 stroke at Matterley Basin in 2015.
To the person who downvoted me, man up & explain why my statement was wrong.
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NSP139 2/15/2022 6:02am
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Can he race a 300cc in mxgp?
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JMX82 2/15/2022 6:25am
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NSP139 wrote:
Can he race a 300cc in mxgp?
Only 250 two stroke's are allowed
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Bearuno 2/15/2022 6:37am
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NSP139 wrote:
Can he race a 300cc in mxgp?
No.

We can't have even a 'squared up' 250 2T (292cc) , going up against the 450s.

It's pathetic, these handicap rules that still exist in the MX2, MXGP and US SX and Outdoors, just pathetic.

At least EMX250, that he won, has equivalency, yet, there are still the 2x and 1.75x capacity advantages in the World Championships Classes. It's bloody bizarre to have such rules still in place.

I'm surprised at this announcement that Lapucci is using a 250 2t, but, if he prefers it over a 450, well, good luck to him. He's going to need it, as much as a fan of him, Team Fantic Maddi and Jan Witteveen as I am.
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Alan Dove 2/15/2022 6:55am
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Derpin' DJ wrote:
Cool, as long as he is doing it for the right reasons, and not just for social media
What are 'the right reasons'?
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bayodome 2/15/2022 7:21am
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I was surprised to see that decision. But I also saw a couple vids of him prepping on the XX450 and he didn't look very comfortable (but I think the conditions were a little muddy in the video so that may have been a factor).

Lapucci is crazy fast on that 250 so I'm sure he'll have some decent showings once he's completely healed up. However I also believe he'll very quickly realize what James Stewart did back in 2005...250 two-strokes are simply no match for 450 four-strokes when it comes to racing.

Nicholas' perfect bike might be a 350 but he's unfortunately on the wrong manufacturer at the moment for that option.
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Falcon 2/15/2022 8:45am
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It sucks that this argument is still a thing... 450s have a ridiculous power advantage, and they have for years. Yet, there's no adjustment from any of the sanctioning bodies. I'm not arguing for equal-displacement racing, but let's find the proper equivalency and go with that. CLEARLY, equivalency is not allowing four strokes to have nearly double the displacement in the premier class, nor exactly double in the 250F class. They don't even have to get the formula exactly right; just get closer.
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themrtoad 2/15/2022 8:47am
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Hell yeah. Points on the board would be a great result. I will certainly cheer for him👍
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Dirt_Dawg 2/15/2022 9:37am
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Well thats a dumb move. Just saying
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Muscle-Milk-KTM wrote:
To the person who downvoted me, man up & explain why my statement was wrong.
I gave you the 2nd down vote for getting your panties in a wad over a down vote.
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Janko630 2/15/2022 1:44pm
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2 strokes sure do get a disproportionate amount of media coverage for riders placing outside the top-10 though....
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NLMB150 2/15/2022 1:48pm
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Kid is a legend tho, I watch him ride and he the real deal. I want to go back to a 250 2 stroke after watching him ride. I wish they had them fabrics over here in America. I would buy one so fast. They sickkkk
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Roczoff 2/15/2022 4:01pm
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Did he have anything to say about JT's sister?
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Roczoff wrote:
Did he have anything to say about JT's sister?
Took me a second to get this, but that's hilarious!
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Muscle-Milk-KTM wrote:
Lewis Gregory rode a 2 stroke at Matterley Basin in 2015.
Lewis was definitely a good 2 stroke rider! 2015 to 2017 were probably the best years of EMX300 with Lewis, Yentel Martens, Kenny Vendueren, Mike Kras, Brad Anderson,…
I know Lewis and Bob at GL12 and he was doing everything to grow that championship. Once Bob left the GP’s that championship went completely downhill…
I’m curious of what Lapucci can do in MX1! Last year at the international of Italy he was doing really good in the super finals and this year Tondel is riding really good on that bike too. I think he can score some points here and there on his best tracks once he is fully healed up.
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colintrax wrote:
I gave you the 2nd down vote for getting your panties in a wad over a down vote.
I appreciate your honesty.
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NSP139 wrote:
Can he race a 300cc in mxgp?
Bearuno wrote:
No. We can't have even a 'squared up' 250 2T (292cc) , going up against the 450s. It's pathetic, these handicap rules that still exist in...
No.

We can't have even a 'squared up' 250 2T (292cc) , going up against the 450s.

It's pathetic, these handicap rules that still exist in the MX2, MXGP and US SX and Outdoors, just pathetic.

At least EMX250, that he won, has equivalency, yet, there are still the 2x and 1.75x capacity advantages in the World Championships Classes. It's bloody bizarre to have such rules still in place.

I'm surprised at this announcement that Lapucci is using a 250 2t, but, if he prefers it over a 450, well, good luck to him. He's going to need it, as much as a fan of him, Team Fantic Maddi and Jan Witteveen as I am.
Honda says NO.
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NSP139 wrote:
Can he race a 300cc in mxgp?
JMX82 wrote:
Only 250 two stroke's are allowed
Curious what the politics are stopping 300cc two strokes from MXGP? Allowing 300cc in both MXGP and Lucas Oil Nationals would be a breath of fresh air for the sport of MX.
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NSP139 wrote:
Can he race a 300cc in mxgp?
JMX82 wrote:
Only 250 two stroke's are allowed
Leave Us To wrote:
Curious what the politics are stopping 300cc two strokes from MXGP? Allowing 300cc in both MXGP and Lucas Oil Nationals would be a breath of fresh...
Curious what the politics are stopping 300cc two strokes from MXGP? Allowing 300cc in both MXGP and Lucas Oil Nationals would be a breath of fresh air for the sport of MX.
Unfortunately it's the Japanese manufacturers that don't produce them anymore and they still have a lot of pull
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Leave Us To 2/18/2022 1:01pm
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JMX82 wrote:
Only 250 two stroke's are allowed
Leave Us To wrote:
Curious what the politics are stopping 300cc two strokes from MXGP? Allowing 300cc in both MXGP and Lucas Oil Nationals would be a breath of fresh...
Curious what the politics are stopping 300cc two strokes from MXGP? Allowing 300cc in both MXGP and Lucas Oil Nationals would be a breath of fresh air for the sport of MX.
NSP139 wrote:
Unfortunately it's the Japanese manufacturers that don't produce them anymore and they still have a lot of pull
Excellent point. KTM, Husky, Gas Gas make 300cc two strokes and Yamaha's GYTR catalog could include 300cc kit. Be mind blowing if Suzuki would dust off their two stroke molds and jigs to produce 2 strokes again.

We need 300cc two strokes injected into MX before electric bikes take over. ICE's demise is coming so let's have our fun now.
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