Larry Wards pro ama Noleen / Sizzler Yz250

11/17/2019 7:02pm
Banana_oil wrote:
Pwk carb is not stock on yz250 right?
From what I have been told, the makuni carbs were oem for for this bike.
11/17/2019 7:14pm
SLOWTIME wrote:
So sick. Good rescue
Thanks. It was killing me seeing that bike dying outside in the weather uncovered. Now I just need to find all the missing parts.
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11/17/2019 10:07pm
What’s your other question? I am pretty sure I answered them to the best of my knowledge. I was told they were changed every race. I don’t know if that’s true or not. Everytime it’s inspected it gets a sticker, from what I am told. I am not sure what you are suggesting about the sticker not being in the correct spot. The stickers look to be about a 1/8” to a 1/16” from the picture I posted. Ever picture I found it’s right in the same area.
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11/17/2019 10:10pm
Noleen can confirm this with the right people. Don't let a kid that answers the phone run you off.

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11/18/2019 1:33am
mb60 wrote:
Noleen can confirm this with the right people. Don't let a kid that answers the phone run you off.
Your right, Maybe I can get the to rebuild it. Do you know if they still do motors? The website had no mention of motor work, that I saw.
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11/18/2019 6:35am
I’m sure the person who slapped the tech stickers on the frames weren’t doing it with any sort of finesse. Matthes has told stories of parts being left off of race bikes, and not being noticed while passing tech. Foot pegs, axle nuts, etc.

It’s funny that paradigm is arguing it’s placement might be off a few MM. get real.Woohoo
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11/18/2019 12:04pm
mb60 wrote:
Noleen can confirm this with the right people. Don't let a kid that answers the phone run you off.
Your right, Maybe I can get the to rebuild it. Do you know if they still do motors? The website had no mention of motor work...
Your right, Maybe I can get the to rebuild it. Do you know if they still do motors? The website had no mention of motor work, that I saw.
I would see if can speak to or email Clark Jones ? He should be able to give you some insight on what you are looking at.
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11/18/2019 3:45pm Edited Date/Time 11/18/2019 3:49pm
Slowtime243

Yadayadayadayada do the thumbs down regarding your posts open your eyes at all?

The dude has a cool piece of history, and you have missed the boat.

Carry on.
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11/19/2019 8:33am

Great read. My first brand new bike was a 98 YZ250. Everything Noleen developed for the rear suspension was incorporated into the later year bikes. I was a big Tim Ferry fan since he rode the 98 for team Noleen, the red white and blue graphics and Noleen had won the pipe shootout that year. I ended up having Noleen do the motor, suspension and had their nickel pipe. The bike ripped! I didn't realize how good it was till I replaced it with my first woods bike a 01 KTM 250 EXC and then rode them back to back. The only thing that sucked was the rubber bumper forks. LOL



Still looking for the Mag test of his bike that picture is from.....
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11/19/2019 12:54pm
As someone who is currently "mid" way through a refurbish on a 94, this is always a good thing to see! Please restore this beauty. Mine has been slow going just because of funds and schedule but I can't wait to get it up and running. I plan on doing some vintage mx classes with it, so I'm focused more on affordable and good condition used parts as opposed to a show room build. As someone mentioned above, my bike was mostly stock and had a Mikuini TMX on it.

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11/19/2019 3:37pm
How many times are you going to edit your post to be more witty? From your last sentence, it’s obvious you have no interest in this find. Woohoo

Ps: why do you put barnett before all your text? Are you talking to yourself?
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12/2/2019 4:01pm
Pretty random,I was on a road trip this weekend and stopped in this huge tourist trap on I95 called south of the border and they had a pretty big mx bike collection and there was a Noleen sizzler.

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12/3/2019 3:30am
What about pictures of the other bikes there in that collection?
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12/3/2019 5:54am
I stop in at SoB on the way home from Florida every year so my brother can get fireworks...where are the bikes located? They have a track also correct?
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12/3/2019 6:56am
I’m not sure about a track when I stopped it was pretty dark.The bikes were in a building on the left side when you pull in,It was just past a fireworks building and the building just before it said something about a shark on display.What drew me inside was a sign in the window that said mx gear for sale and then I saw the bike collection.I ran in pretty quick being the mrs..and the dogs were in the car...
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12/27/2021 11:31am
wfoyz250 wrote:
Restore it! That's a piece of MX history that can never be duplicated.
I believe this is the one I owned when stationed at Edwards AFB, did you find it in Tucson? I was told it was a Big Bird practice bike when I bought it, had all the goodies. Is there still a N etched in the cylinder? The Olins shock was on it when I had it.
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1/5/2022 6:14pm
The PWK carb is correct for '95 (4MX is the designation for the '95s). I talked to Clark a couple of years ago about my '95 and he told me they didn't use the long rod kit so you wont see a spacer under the cylinder - I found a NOS kit a few years ago and was looking forward to putting it on but probably wont now.
1/13/2022 2:23pm
sandman768 wrote:
Wonder what the numbers on the head are? Possible head volume? Tear that engine apart, let’s see more!
I'd say it's a 20.6cc head. That would be about right for those bikes.
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Had a 96 YZ 250 with their complete motor treatment. Best 250 2t I've ever ridden.
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I got my 98 back from my college roommate I sold it to in 01. I'm in process of gathering parts and soon I'll crack into the motor they did for me in 99. Still looking for a Noleen pipe for it since the one I had on it got smashed woods racing.

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1/29/2022 4:07am
Throttle jockey told me they still have the templates and can redo the graphics upon request.
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1/26/2023 12:39pm
wfoyz250 wrote:
Restore it! That's a piece of MX history that can never be duplicated.
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I believe this is the one I owned when stationed at Edwards AFB, did you find it in Tucson? I was told it was a Big...
I believe this is the one I owned when stationed at Edwards AFB, did you find it in Tucson? I was told it was a Big Bird practice bike when I bought it, had all the goodies. Is there still a N etched in the cylinder? The Olins shock was on it when I had it.

Are you Kenny Hall's buddy I sold my Larry Ward Noleen bike to? I sold it to a friend of a friend who was stationed at Edwards Air Force Base back in 97 or so. My bike was a 1994 Larry Ward race bike, everything on it was exactly as it was when taken out of service for the 95 season #11 plates with AMA tech stickers and all (I still have the front number plate with the #11 and tech inspection sticker) EXEPT...the only thing that Noleen switched out was the cylinder because the 94 cylinders where preferred so mine got a take off Noleen ported 95 cylinder. Noleen ran ATF instead of gear oil in the gearbox too and it indeed had an ohlins shock a Noleen pipe and the Noleen linkage. I swapped out the front "Sizzler" fender and #11 plates when I was racing it but gave all that exept the fron plate to the new owner. The rear hub was marked "Lewis" because parts where swaped from the team bikes often (Kyle Lewis). I lived in Rosamond when I owned it and so did Kyle Lewis and I would run across Kyle riding in the same areas often and would follow his lead the best I could (Props To Kyle skills from another planet) Clark Jones personally handled all the DMV paperwork for me because it was never put into the DMV system as it came straight from Yamaha and no title was originally issued I was told, and yes the engine and frame both  had VIN numbers. I remember the pink slip showed year firs sold as a couple years later than the actual year because that. I loved the bike and it fit me well because I am 6'2" and It was still set up for ward when I got it. One thing that stood out to me was that the rear brakes pedal was set VERY low exactly like I set mine up for a better forward position in the berms and it wad a thin cable from the brake pedal going to the frame. I kick myself in the ass for selling it but needed a new bike to race and was mostly a Kawasaki rider those days anyway......would love to hear where it ended up!........Donnie Pines 

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1/26/2023 12:51pm

Hey!! It has passed down through 5 people from Kenny. I was friends with 4 of them. Nobody knew who had raced the bike. They all knew it was a pro bike but that’s all. I have been looking for years to find the right parts to build it back to original. This one has a low front break and the hole for the cable. It has round holes drilled in the air box. The other ones I have seen has slots cut. 

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1/26/2023 5:27pm

I am not usually a fan of old threads being brought back to life but wow, this one is an exception!  Glad the OP finally got the real history of this..umm..piece of moto history!  I hope you can track down all the parts you need and show us a great restoration project.  Hope this ends even better than one of those Hallmark movies my wife watches when she’s not watching HGTV!

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1/26/2023 7:00pm

Forgot to mention, Noleen did NOT run the long rod kit and if I recall the crankshaft pin was tig welded and then balanced. The engine ran really good and I ran it on VP-c12. I have a few old pictures of it when I owned it. I am not clear on if the OP understood what I was saying to be clear I was responding to RD-Reeds comment about buying it when stationed at Edwards Air Force Base. I was asking if he was Kenny hall's friend and if he was the guy I sold it to back in the day.

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1/26/2023 9:46pm

10A541E1-15C3-4753-AA20-C56A47899AAFStill have the front plate 🤙🏻

 

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1/27/2023 12:33am

Thats awesome! Were the other plastics in bad shape when you sold the bike ? I think the first guy that bought it got ride of them. He didn’t give them to my buddy that brought it, I believe my friend picked it up from the guy you sold it too In 2003 2004 ish. I should send it back up the chain to see if he still has any of them. The purple plastics have been hard for me to locate. Where are you located ? 

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1/27/2023 12:21pm

I'm in (Quartz Hill Ca, (W Lancaster) I took the original plastics number plates and front fender off for a few reasons #1 to preserve the before I hammered them and #2 I had to run my own race number. #3 I didn't want to come off as a poser or to be riding practice at LACR or Glen Helen and people watching me thinking I was Larry Ward riding like a Pud !!! I could hold my own pretty good but not at that level, I actually got the bike to race it 👉 The plastics went  to the person I sold it to in perfect condition. 

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2/1/2023 10:37am
Action69 wrote:
Pretty random,I was on a road trip this weekend and stopped in this huge tourist trap on I95 called south of the border and they had...
Pretty random,I was on a road trip this weekend and stopped in this huge tourist trap on I95 called south of the border and they had a pretty big mx bike collection and there was a Noleen sizzler.

Larry lived about 20 min from SOB so he may have given or sold it to them.

2/13/2023 9:38am

Here’s a pic of Larry riding to get you motivated to finish your build. It’s from Gary Semic,s book pro Mx riding techniques 5B3C91BC-38BE-4446-837E-6FAA528B8749

 

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