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It sounded like the power flattened out on the high speed straights - I'm wondering if its power limited in those tests. Assuming its running a similar torque at the rear to the Alta, with roughly twice the power it should be able to maintain that torque twice as long.
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Yes, ICE bikes with gearboxes have their own intrinsic value. However, if e-bikes were the norm, it’s difficult to imagine a scenario where today’s bikes would find a place in the market. A machine that’s more difficult to ride, requires frequent maintenance, and generates significant dBs would be a tough sell.
Am I the only dummy here that does not what is "slippery-fingers’ cell holders"? I tried googling it and nothing. And what does the a pressure relief system do? What pressure does it relief? Why is there pressure?
Alta battery is 5.8 kWH and this thing has 6kWH how can this thing be so much more efficient?
I am not a hater just interested in tech
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Have you heard of Fox Racing? Because they have some pretty solid credentials.
The problem isn't that these people have poor credentials, the problem is the crushing debt created by pipedream startup costs and the fact that these investors want to see returns on their investment. That model doesn't work for something like an electric dirt bike as a main product, because it's a niche within a niche. The only way this works is if the investors are satisfied with not making much money, or if the manufacturer makes a bunch of money from other products to help sustain a product that's just not a big money maker. Thinking that electric dirt bikes are going to be some huge corporate cash cow is delusions of grandeur.
The Genova approach is totally fine, you take the money from something profitable to fund something that's not very profitable, and you do it because you love it.
Took it to the Mountaineer GNCC this year just to see if I could make it the distance in the AM race as this course is a bit tighter and slower than most GNCC courses. I lead the first lap in my class and was able to just finish the 2 hour race with about 15% left on my second battery coming in 4th.
Battery capacity on the stark is about the same as what i have now with my sur ron, obviously power delivery is much different but if somebody like chi can manufacture an aftermarket battery for it the range could get interesting.
I think 8 to 10 kwh is what will be needed to go enduro racing or a 3 hour gncc without a battery swap.
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1/3 of the pictures, posts, memes and videos across Facebook instagram and youtube is about this bike and company
Of course that opinion of yours is worth every cent you were paid for it.........!
Personally I am hoping that the tech advances as quickly as possible, giving the ability to reduce the price enough so that bikes can be sold with up to 3 battery packs at a time for closer to a full day of riding. Probably just in time for my future grandkids to start riding, I would guess.
Tip: it hasn’t. The Karens will just find some other aspect to attack (land erosion, dust, etc).
The people who are trying to kill this sport will keep trying to kill this sport. You keep giving them inches that add to miles.
You want one? Awesome, go for it. But it won’t save a damn thing.
P.s. I think Johnny already mentioned this but is the same crowd that seems to harp on 450s constantly for being too powerful seriously cheering a bike with 20 more hp (that isn’t rpm dependent mind you)? Lmao
But anyhoo, I think the problem you might be having with the how/why of this company (Stark) is that you've got a Silicon Valley outlook, an outlook that the average Swede (or Spaniard) would likely find a bit peculiar. Unlike start-up companies in NorCal, most planet Earth people would be happy just to be part of a solidly-built, innovative business that makes a solidly-built, innovative product. They don't feel the need to become barely-pubescent billionaires because globally speaking (and I know this might seem shocking to a Californian like yourself) billionaires are not widely envied. Yes, I'll admit, people might want their money, but very few people would actually want to BE Jeff Bezos or Mark Zuckerberg or Jack Dorsey, because they seem like strange, creepy people in dire need of round-the-clock therapy and better hair stylists.
Alta failed, not because it produced an inferior product or their bike received poor marketplace response (like Cannonade suffered from), but because it's production facilities were located in the WORST place imaginable (Silicon Valley), causing a "burn rate" that was completely unsustainable. Investors bailed, not because the bike sucked, but because they quickly realized it would be easier to produce a profitable bike in an active volcano than in the outskirts of San Fran.
Will the Stark Varg succeed? I believe it will, and that belief stems from my impression that the company's mission statement seems NOT to be centered around the MONEY or the STOCK PRICE, but around the BIKE. The little details (the footpegs, the chain adjusters, the stronger yet lighter plastic, the more efficient motor) speak to this focus quite eloquently (for those who care to notice, E.G. someone like myself, and early-adapter who is buying a grey one).
Ask anyone who owns a track. Noise is HUGE, noise is CENTRAL, noise is ELEMENTAL, to any and all focus and intent regarding the prevention of, or curtailment of, motocross tracks. Erosion is a fall-back complaint, I'll grant you that, but it's like comparing a raccoon to a lion. The former might piss you off and ruin your day, yes, true, but the latter will EAT you.
Without noise, no one even knows where we are, and of those who do, few would care, as we're on private land and our motors are no longer creating what they currently view as a "public nuisance."
Get. A. Clue.
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