Mike alessi crash today?

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Radical 11/7/2021 8:41pm
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I read all of the comments on the Instagram post. It seems they ran 30+pro with a vet C class.
That doesn't make sense.

Also, it was mentioned that in Alessi's post, it was evident that he shifted from right to center, expecting that spot to be clear.

If the slower rider doesn't slow down abruptly, and keeps his line, it's the faster rider's responsibility to go around him safely. There isn't any other way. A slower rider would love to ride faster, but obviously can't.

In the Vet classes, I haven't had a problem riding with faster riders, but to put me (50+ novice) in with pros is probably not the best idea, if the pros are going full steam.
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moto67e 11/7/2021 8:51pm
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Radical wrote:
I read all of the comments on the Instagram post. It seems they ran 30+pro with a vet C class. That doesn't make sense. Also, it...
I read all of the comments on the Instagram post. It seems they ran 30+pro with a vet C class.
That doesn't make sense.

Also, it was mentioned that in Alessi's post, it was evident that he shifted from right to center, expecting that spot to be clear.

If the slower rider doesn't slow down abruptly, and keeps his line, it's the faster rider's responsibility to go around him safely. There isn't any other way. A slower rider would love to ride faster, but obviously can't.

In the Vet classes, I haven't had a problem riding with faster riders, but to put me (50+ novice) in with pros is probably not the best idea, if the pros are going full steam.
That wasn't 50 Nov, It was the 50+ 125 Pro class.
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PTshox 11/7/2021 8:58pm
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Link to vid?
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moto67e 11/7/2021 8:59pm
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PTshox wrote:
Link to vid?
It's in the first post
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Ugh. That was heavy. Hope the other dude is OK.
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PTshox 11/7/2021 10:08pm
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PTshox wrote:
Link to vid?
moto67e wrote:
It's in the first post
It doesn't work on my end... thus why I ask. It's kinda blacked out.
Anyone else have this problem?
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spimx wrote:
I wonder what practice that was? If you are on track with pros maybe keep your head on strait.
wm741 wrote:
It was a race. They threw a C class on the second gate of the A class is what I’ve heard.
I assumed it was a practice day too. So stupid to have them on together…
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Some people shouldn't be on a public track unless they know and understand the very basics of track riding etiquette. Both are insanely lucky to be healthy after that, and i would've been furious if i would've been Alessi.

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So guy was paralyzed for while but got feeling back later. I wouldnt call that "he was ok or he wasnt hurt" by any mean. Good that he lived to walk another day.
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Motofinne wrote:
Some people shouldn't be on a public track unless they know and understand the very basics of track riding etiquette. Both are insanely lucky to be...
Some people shouldn't be on a public track unless they know and understand the very basics of track riding etiquette. Both are insanely lucky to be healthy after that, and i would've been furious if i would've been Alessi.

Apparently it's even worse, and it's part of a race. Or two races.
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Promotor had a nice pay day though so I’m sure he’s happy and will continue to have mixed gates..
Ales I said he was lapping 60secs a lap quicker than some people in the race, wtf there is no way that should be allowed. Would think with how sue happy Californians are one of these promotors would have been done by now
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luke11 wrote:
Promotor had a nice pay day though so I’m sure he’s happy and will continue to have mixed gates.. Ales I said he was lapping 60secs...
Promotor had a nice pay day though so I’m sure he’s happy and will continue to have mixed gates..
Ales I said he was lapping 60secs a lap quicker than some people in the race, wtf there is no way that should be allowed. Would think with how sue happy Californians are one of these promotors would have been done by now
Mixing classes with that much difference in speed is borderline criminal.

That being said your own personal safety needs to be your primary concern and not leave it up to others. Mike Alessi is still one of the fastest 50-100 riders in the world, if you look down the line and you know you're not in that zip code get the hell out of the line.
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vtec_ 11/8/2021 6:11am
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after doing track days with my car, its almost comical how unprofessional/disorganized moto is when it comes to practice and racing.
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Markopolo400 11/8/2021 7:25am
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I was moto 3 of the day yesterday, this happened in Moto 4, and I was on the gate with my buddy when it happened. Coming over the finish line was blind, you cant see the landing where the other guy was and Mike was at warp speed and definitely couldn't see the rider in front of him, so non of the blame should be on him.

It had to have been a +50 125 Pro rider, I got done with my moto, went back to the truck, dropped off my bike and walked back down to the start before it happened. The skill level range in +50 pro was very very large.

I hope that dude is ok.
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davistld01 11/8/2021 7:36am
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Wow!! That messed my stomach all up watching the collision. The guy who got hit never saw it coming, and Mike had nowhere to go to avoid the crash! I put the blame, if there is any, on the race organizers. The slow guy should have never been on the same track as the pros. Damn!
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LouisianaMotocross 11/8/2021 8:40am
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What TF was that dude doing putting around in the middle of the track?
Boomslang wrote:
That dude was looking sideways and it also appears that he was waving to someone on the stands. Plain studity. Not Mike's fault.
I think he was holding his hand up to let the rider behind him(Mike) know that he was not at race speed. No way MA noticed it tho. On practice days this is pretty common but on race day you are expecting people to be at speed.
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wreckitrandy 11/8/2021 8:46am
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Motogoof wrote:
Alessi just gets on his bike and fucks off.
Nice
jeffro503 wrote:
What did you want him to do? Also , why was that dude going super slow , in the middle of the track during a race...
What did you want him to do? Also , why was that dude going super slow , in the middle of the track during a race?
I hope that dude is ok. But God damn , you gotta get out of the way if someone is coming up on you in mach 5.
Exactly. You don't roll jumps down the middle of the track.
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luke11 wrote:
Promotor had a nice pay day though so I’m sure he’s happy and will continue to have mixed gates.. Ales I said he was lapping 60secs...
Promotor had a nice pay day though so I’m sure he’s happy and will continue to have mixed gates..
Ales I said he was lapping 60secs a lap quicker than some people in the race, wtf there is no way that should be allowed. Would think with how sue happy Californians are one of these promotors would have been done by now
McG194 wrote:
Mixing classes with that much difference in speed is borderline criminal. That being said your own personal safety needs to be your primary concern and not...
Mixing classes with that much difference in speed is borderline criminal.

That being said your own personal safety needs to be your primary concern and not leave it up to others. Mike Alessi is still one of the fastest 50-100 riders in the world, if you look down the line and you know you're not in that zip code get the hell out of the line.
So the first supercross futures race was held at Doublin Gap a couple weeks ago. Happened to glance at the gate and saw a bike I happened to see out with the C class practice and the rider absolutely belonged in that practice. Thought to myself there’s no way he’s going off the gate with those guys. Yup. He did, and literally almost got taken out when he got lapped in 2 laps. The guy that day had no business being out there and should’ve known it. It’s not on the track owners, flaggers, or anyone else at that point. Self awareness unfortunately is going the way of the dodo.
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RonSkj 11/8/2021 8:56am
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To say the promoter or anyone else is at fault, is just stupid. The only one at fault was the rider that decided to not ride at race pace. From this video, there's no way to judge how fast the guy is capable of riding, as it's obvious he was just riding slow for what ever reason. Like Jason Anderson getting landed on at the motocross de nations. Who's fault was that?
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Gary Duck 11/8/2021 9:12am
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I have a funny feeling all the people bitching about 800 would change their tune if they realized how much money was on the line for him in that race. Track workers were attending to the downed rider and Mike had a job to do. #Shutthefuckupkeyboardwarriors #downvotebuttonbelow
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BigBoreFan58 11/8/2021 9:20am
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Look on the bright side. They all signed the liability waiver.
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LungButter 11/8/2021 9:23am
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Never change Glen Helen....

What a shit show.
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scott_nz 11/8/2021 9:23am
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RonSkj wrote:
To say the promoter or anyone else is at fault, is just stupid. The only one at fault was the rider that decided to not ride...
To say the promoter or anyone else is at fault, is just stupid. The only one at fault was the rider that decided to not ride at race pace. From this video, there's no way to judge how fast the guy is capable of riding, as it's obvious he was just riding slow for what ever reason. Like Jason Anderson getting landed on at the motocross de nations. Who's fault was that?
The promoter has a responsibility not to put classes with lap times so different together , but Glen Helen is not world renowned for their safety practices are they
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luke11 wrote:
Promotor had a nice pay day though so I’m sure he’s happy and will continue to have mixed gates.. Ales I said he was lapping 60secs...
Promotor had a nice pay day though so I’m sure he’s happy and will continue to have mixed gates..
Ales I said he was lapping 60secs a lap quicker than some people in the race, wtf there is no way that should be allowed. Would think with how sue happy Californians are one of these promotors would have been done by now
McG194 wrote:
Mixing classes with that much difference in speed is borderline criminal. That being said your own personal safety needs to be your primary concern and not...
Mixing classes with that much difference in speed is borderline criminal.

That being said your own personal safety needs to be your primary concern and not leave it up to others. Mike Alessi is still one of the fastest 50-100 riders in the world, if you look down the line and you know you're not in that zip code get the hell out of the line.
cwel11 wrote:
So the first supercross futures race was held at Doublin Gap a couple weeks ago. Happened to glance at the gate and saw a bike I...
So the first supercross futures race was held at Doublin Gap a couple weeks ago. Happened to glance at the gate and saw a bike I happened to see out with the C class practice and the rider absolutely belonged in that practice. Thought to myself there’s no way he’s going off the gate with those guys. Yup. He did, and literally almost got taken out when he got lapped in 2 laps. The guy that day had no business being out there and should’ve known it. It’s not on the track owners, flaggers, or anyone else at that point. Self awareness unfortunately is going the way of the dodo.
The promoter needs to be aware in these situations also. Pull the guy off the track and offer a refund. Agree with you the dude needs to be aware of his/her abilities also and not put themselves in that position.
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stremme12 11/8/2021 9:47am
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Maybe Mr.Info can chime in.
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Forty 11/8/2021 10:06am
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The language is in the doc signed at the entry to the track, again at sign up and at our riders meetings they tell you to assess the track, your machine, and your self to confirm you're comfortable with racing today, if not go now to sign up for a full refund and put your bike in the truck.

The gap between fast A riders and people that shouldn't be in a competition is bigger now than ever before and it is creating situations like these, rolling a blind jump during a competition is a bad idea. It should be common knowledge but it's not.

I don't know, maybe I'm old. This accident aside it seems riders aren't learning the craft anymore, not just the basic riding skills but the trackside behavior and safety also.

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LungButter 11/8/2021 10:13am
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scott_nz wrote:
The promoter has a responsibility not to put classes with lap times so different together , but Glen Helen is not world renowned for their safety...
The promoter has a responsibility not to put classes with lap times so different together , but Glen Helen is not world renowned for their safety practices are they
Sooner or later the wrong somebody will get killed there and their lawyers will get the place shut down.

That will be a sad day for American MX and a huge hit to the Industry in SoCal but it doesn't seem avoidable at this point, they just don't seem to grasp at all how to group people together on the track in a safe manner.

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sumdood 11/8/2021 10:24am
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stremme12 wrote:
Maybe Mr.Info can chime in.
Pretty sure Mr. Info is now Mr. No Info

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