Downsides of Having a Home Track

Mr. Ted
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Neighbors complain about anything . Erosion. Grass control. Water . Equipment useage. Oh and freeloaders. Everyone wants to ride but nobody wants to help maintain. Pluses...
Neighbors complain about anything . Erosion. Grass control. Water . Equipment useage. Oh and freeloaders.
Everyone wants to ride but nobody wants to help maintain.
Pluses, Friends that do help , ride anytime , know the track like the back of our hands, walk outside and go ride. How bad ass is that?
And if you can swing some sort of lighting setup!! Night riding is legit the best thing ever.
I did knock myself out one time a d woke up covered in ants. That kinda sucked.
The reality of it is you will have to maintain the track but the real work was always the areas not actually on the riding area. I mean like the infields and side of the jumps and areas between jumps.
Erosion control is absolutely a pain in the ass.
As the dirt gets pounded into a fine powder it just runs away in the rain.
Constant moving the soil back where you want it is a challenge.
The watering for a good days riding is arguably the most annoying thing. It makes the grass grow worse and aids in runoff as well.
Overall it’s worth it. I mean you will have times where you think no way man I’m done.
Then a few buddies show up and you have the most amazing day just ripping around your own track at your own property.
You make the rules, you are the king of the castle.
What he said. We have a decent track that was our son's practice track until he passed away in December. We opened it up for anyone to ride. Donations only. Time, effort or money. But you have plenty of people that feel free to bring their 4 kids, friends and spectators for the whole weekend and drop 2 bucks in the jar. Maintenance is the hardest part, as JBone mentioned unless you can afford to buy equipment. We have a guy that loves to ride and also has a landscaping business so he owns a skidsteer who built the track and every couple of months comes by to repack jump faces and groom for a reasonable fee. But it's the weekly work that gets trying. We have been getting a fair amount of rain, so the runoff across our driveway, weed control, and watering on dry days becomes a chore. It's worth it for us because it's therapy for us to hear the bikes and we've met a lot of great people that help support the track. Plus it's nice to go outside and jump on my bike and ride for however long I feel like it. I would do it all over again!
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AngryBear
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9/19/2021 5:06pm Edited Date/Time 9/19/2021 5:09pm
mingham97 wrote:
Looks like dreamland? [embed][/embed]
Looks like dreamland?

vtec_ wrote:
dreamland is in FL i believe, not NC
FolkLoar wrote:
This is the old JGR track.. Look at the name of listing agent
the video is dreamland, renzland's place. its in the FL panhandle, between tallahasse and jacksonville, very much in the middle of nowhere.

the listing is a diff place, the old jgr track
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zippytech
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9/19/2021 5:11pm
I have the tools and the track already built, what about INS, that is where I am stuck!
willbilly
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9/19/2021 5:21pm
It doesn’t matter how careful you are. If someone gets injured that person’s insurance will sue to cover their loss. I have seen it happen multiple times. Never could understand why my “buddy” would sue our track. Found out that they sued in his name. Part of the insurance contract.
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Neighbors complain about anything . Erosion. Grass control. Water . Equipment useage. Oh and freeloaders. Everyone wants to ride but nobody wants to help maintain. Pluses...
Neighbors complain about anything . Erosion. Grass control. Water . Equipment useage. Oh and freeloaders.
Everyone wants to ride but nobody wants to help maintain.
Pluses, Friends that do help , ride anytime , know the track like the back of our hands, walk outside and go ride. How bad ass is that?
And if you can swing some sort of lighting setup!! Night riding is legit the best thing ever.
I did knock myself out one time a d woke up covered in ants. That kinda sucked.
The reality of it is you will have to maintain the track but the real work was always the areas not actually on the riding area. I mean like the infields and side of the jumps and areas between jumps.
Erosion control is absolutely a pain in the ass.
As the dirt gets pounded into a fine powder it just runs away in the rain.
Constant moving the soil back where you want it is a challenge.
The watering for a good days riding is arguably the most annoying thing. It makes the grass grow worse and aids in runoff as well.
Overall it’s worth it. I mean you will have times where you think no way man I’m done.
Then a few buddies show up and you have the most amazing day just ripping around your own track at your own property.
You make the rules, you are the king of the castle.
mingham97 wrote:
Cheers for the comprehensive response. Does it work to have a "tip jar" for those wanting to come out and ride? I.e. $10 to go towards...
Cheers for the comprehensive response. Does it work to have a "tip jar" for those wanting to come out and ride? I.e. $10 to go towards expenses?
I kinda want labor more than money😂 I have two friends that are like family I would never ask them for a penny because one guy...
I kinda want labor more than money😂
I have two friends that are like family I would never ask them for a penny because one guy brings a skid steer a few times a year and one dude is a grass cutting guy and has in the past had a crew come by and knock the grass down when I wasn’t home. That was a great surprise.
But those guys that just want to show up and ride I will ask for like hey man pour some of that gas into my mower or something like along those lines.
You have to be super careful about asking for money to ride and also who comes.
I don’t want a lawsuit if some squid cases a jump and breaks his ankles.
I’m so afraid of lawyers and losing everything that i won’t let many come really.
I downloaded a waiver from the AMA and also got an umbrella policy for my property. I haven't had any issues yet. I also do it as a donation only because I don't want to be accused of running a business, which I'm not, and have someone try and shut me down due to business code. But I live in county, not town area. I only have 7 acres and neighbors aren't too close. Only 1 complaint in 3 years. But we also try to be respectful of the neighborhood and not be rude and ride 24/7.
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motomike894
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I built one at my house few years ago after we bought it only on about two acres and I have zero way to maintain it other then using a skidsteer few times year to change soemthing and reface stuff, eventually I will own a tracked skidsteer or a tractor with loader etc but I can still go out back after work ride for little bit and enjoy it, I have couple decent jumps so keeps it somewhat entertaining lol




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DJAKE
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I kinda want labor more than money😂 I have two friends that are like family I would never ask them for a penny because one guy...
I kinda want labor more than money😂
I have two friends that are like family I would never ask them for a penny because one guy brings a skid steer a few times a year and one dude is a grass cutting guy and has in the past had a crew come by and knock the grass down when I wasn’t home. That was a great surprise.
But those guys that just want to show up and ride I will ask for like hey man pour some of that gas into my mower or something like along those lines.
You have to be super careful about asking for money to ride and also who comes.
I don’t want a lawsuit if some squid cases a jump and breaks his ankles.
I’m so afraid of lawyers and losing everything that i won’t let many come really.
I went full squid on my home track and broke both of my legs! To the op, I would say it's worth it, just be careful with who you let ride on it. One person can ruin it all for you.
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Adam43
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9/19/2021 8:52pm
There can be a lot of hassles. But overall, I cannot imagine that I would have stayed involved in this sport for 25+ years without our tracks.

Everyone and their dog will have an opinion of how your track should be. Just remember to build it for yourself first and foremost, to your taste and skill level.

People will come and go. Most won't help, ever. Some will be absolutely invaluable. The bulk of the work will always fall to you, so it's important to set it up in a way that keeps you enthusiastic and engaged.
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SCAM124
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9/20/2021 7:28am
I think it depends largely on what your expectations are for what your home is.

As mentioned by some folks already:
--There is erosion depending on terrain.
--There are weeds that are hard to control and knock down (sides of jumps/berms)
--Dust and dust control. Watering sucks unless you plan/have a good system to do it with minimal help.
--Equipment is cool but you have to maintain it. Shit breaks. Shit needs to get fixed. Almost constantly.
--Not mention where all that equipment sits (barn/building/sheds/lean-to). This goes back up to where I mentioned expectations on appearances. Anywhere your working on this stuff is greasy, oily, messy. Implements everywhere, Chains, brush hogs, cultivators, discs, 3pt attachments, watering trailers, fuel stations, etc . It's all hard to hide and keep maintained enough that it doesn't look like a equipment yard.
--Visitors/friends of friends/riders that maybe you don't necessarily want an intimate look into your personal shit.

I myself used to dream of having a track in my backyard. After operating a track myself (with my buddies) and having friends with tracks in their backyard...I'm now of the opinion that my track needs to be a mile down the road...lol. Or big enough property that it's separated pretty well from the residence.

Go for it tho!!
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murph783
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I built one at my house few years ago after we bought it only on about two acres and I have zero way to maintain it...
I built one at my house few years ago after we bought it only on about two acres and I have zero way to maintain it other then using a skidsteer few times year to change soemthing and reface stuff, eventually I will own a tracked skidsteer or a tractor with loader etc but I can still go out back after work ride for little bit and enjoy it, I have couple decent jumps so keeps it somewhat entertaining lol




That looks super fun
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Tracktor
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9/20/2021 11:18am
I have a "backyard track" actually it's my second property with one. I don't have any issues with neighbors but that can be a big one. Same with county regs but I'm hidden away so you can't really see anything without trespassing.

A home track done right takes a ton of maintenance & $$. It's quite a bit of work to keep it prepped even with the right equipment. I have a Case 450 dozer, a 4wd tractor & an older skiddy. You get more seat time in the equipment than riding if you are main prep guy but I enjoy it.

My personal biggest downside is probably unusual - Since i keep track well-prepped and am a stickler for flow it doesn't end up being a goo "hardcore" training place for racing. Most tracks in the NW have shitty prep, improperly built jumps & little in the way of flow. So anytime my boys go race they have to get used to riding tracks that aren't as well built. I ended up having to make some alternate lines that were purposely jacked up and rougher to emulate what they race on. I can't bring myself to build bad jumps though. It's all for fun anyway so doesn't really matter.........
38special
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9/20/2021 11:29am
I had a backyard track for a half-dozen years and it was just too much money and time to do the upkeep like I wanted. Not to mention I had no way of watering. Paying $30-$40 to go out on a Wednesday night to a prepped track with other riders started to look MIGHTY good....

If I did it again, it would be more of a riding area than a track per se. A place to practice drills and just ride around, versus trying to keep up a legitimate track.
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Skerby
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9/21/2021 8:01am
I had a track about a 1/8th mile from my house growing up. Goddam dream scenario, old man didnt ride anymore but he was happy to maintain the track for my brother and I.
TK40_FC
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38special wrote:
I had a backyard track for a half-dozen years and it was just too much money and time to do the upkeep like I wanted. Not...
I had a backyard track for a half-dozen years and it was just too much money and time to do the upkeep like I wanted. Not to mention I had no way of watering. Paying $30-$40 to go out on a Wednesday night to a prepped track with other riders started to look MIGHTY good....

If I did it again, it would be more of a riding area than a track per se. A place to practice drills and just ride around, versus trying to keep up a legitimate track.
I think you hit the nail on the head with that last part. If you have to space for it, a track that is fast, has good flow and uses just some natural terrain and elevation to provide good jumping opportunities sounds like the most fun to me. I always like riding more when it feels like you can let your mind relax and really hammer the throttle without too much concern for all the what if's that typically come along with moto. Might be boring to some, but it's just riding and having fun to me. Always a good day when your bike and bones go home in one piece.
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mxtech1
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9/21/2021 2:36pm
Downside is that it adds a lot of hours of maintenance to your weekly routine. Mowing, trimming weeds, cultivating, fixing ruts and washouts primarily.

I wouldn't call it "work" because I always enjoyed doing that type of labor, but it does tend to consume a lot of hours if you want a pristine track.

If I had to do it all over again, I would not have messed around with jumps, just kept it a natural terrain track and focused on turns. Unless you have a bulldozer or loader, it takes sooo much time to move dirt around to make even a small size double or table top and then there's the constant upkeep of the faces and landings. With a natural terrain track, all you have to do for prep is pull the disc around and occasionally push back berms as they move outwards.

If you have a water source already available (creek or pond) just buy a trash pump and hoses and focus on watering corners when needed. It's hardly justifiable to dig a pond or well to keep the track watered.

You need at least a mid-size tractor, preferably with a loader, that can pull a 4' disc. 3-point down pressure is huge advantage. A skid steer (tracked) is nice to have. A bull dozer is desirable but usually not a justifiable cost for the average backyard track guy. A water wagon with water pump, that can be pulled with the tractor, would be a step above the trash pump and hand watering with hoses.

If you can't really afford with the equipment to get started, just start with a natural terrain single track. Just keep riding it in and lets ruts and berms form naturally. Low cost, low maintenance, ultra fun. Go to the professional track when you want to jump.
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9/21/2021 3:26pm Edited Date/Time 9/21/2021 3:28pm
So many of the thoughts mentioned here are shared by myself. I have 30 acres that was my grandparents place for ages. Growing up we just rode 3 wheelers around and then would use an old front loader to push up jumps as we got older and started riding bikes.

Fast foward 35 years and now have a pretty decent track on it. I have a mid-sized Kubota, a 7500 # mini excavator and an old 5 yd International dump truck. It takes so much time to move dirt and work the track. To the point of I would rather rent a large excavator or front loader when it's time to change the layout as what I currently have. We usually only ride after a good rain but the window from mud to super dusty is very small. I also have a large old disc but the tractor struggles if the ground is a little wet, and doesn't do shit if its dry. Not to mention once disc'd to chocolate cake it dries out super fast and then I'm left with a powdery dust bowl. Last spring I fiddled with rigging up a flatbed trailer with 600 gallons holding tanks then fill those off a 3000 gallon tank I have filled already but its a pain in the ass and takes so much time.

For me at 48, business owner without endless free time, I would, and do, gladly pay to ride a prepped track an hour away than spend DAYS prepping and wearing out my own equipment which costs thousands....but then it will rain, track will be epic for a day and I'm hooked all over again.....



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