Unadilla amateur event... 3 med Evacs

Christopher Moore
Edited Date/Time 8/7/2021 11:19am
Over the weekend unadilla hosted an am race on the pro track and there was three med evacs. Wondering if anyone knows the status
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The one from the +25A moto ended up with some broken ribs, (possible, can’t confirm) ruptured spleen and some fractured vertebrae in his lower back.

The one from the C class where his helmet flew off looked baddddd.
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Which part of the track did they wreck on?
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motox11 wrote:
The one from the +25A moto ended up with some broken ribs, (possible, can’t confirm) ruptured spleen and some fractured vertebrae in his lower back. The...
The one from the +25A moto ended up with some broken ribs, (possible, can’t confirm) ruptured spleen and some fractured vertebrae in his lower back.

The one from the C class where his helmet flew off looked baddddd.
Yikes.
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mxer192 8/2/2021 7:13am
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Wait... Someone's helmet flew off while racing!!????? What? We're all the incidents jump related?
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I heard the last one which cancelled the last few motos was a death on skyshot in +50. Track is way too dangerous for regular riders, the amount of helicopters and ambulance rides were unbelievable
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creature654 wrote:
I heard the last one which cancelled the last few motos was a death on skyshot in +50. Track is way too dangerous for regular riders...
I heard the last one which cancelled the last few motos was a death on skyshot in +50. Track is way too dangerous for regular riders, the amount of helicopters and ambulance rides were unbelievable
how was the track prepped? When I did one last year on the pro track it was hardly ripped, resulted in no ruts and hard pack + dust, so they were watering DURING motos. Track is no more dangerous than anything else i've ridden, its just Fast. When there are no ruts, and its hard, and then they're throwing water down on top of it, you're creating an ice rink and asking for trouble at those speeds.
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creature654 wrote:
I heard the last one which cancelled the last few motos was a death on skyshot in +50. Track is way too dangerous for regular riders...
I heard the last one which cancelled the last few motos was a death on skyshot in +50. Track is way too dangerous for regular riders, the amount of helicopters and ambulance rides were unbelievable
I’ve heard rumblings that it was a death too. Not confirmed. New England had another death at NHMX sunday, Pete Collins. I believe he was a member here? Great dude, he’ll be missed.
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creature654 wrote:
I heard the last one which cancelled the last few motos was a death on skyshot in +50. Track is way too dangerous for regular riders...
I heard the last one which cancelled the last few motos was a death on skyshot in +50. Track is way too dangerous for regular riders, the amount of helicopters and ambulance rides were unbelievable
from what I heard was that his heart stopped when he crashed, but they were able to resuscitate him & bring him to the hospital. I dont know any other updates than that.
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Sad how Unadilla went from the premier track on the planet, to just another wanna be sx track....

Men thinking they could build a better track than nature... lol
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creature654 8/2/2021 9:05am
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dmm698 wrote:
how was the track prepped? When I did one last year on the pro track it was hardly ripped, resulted in no ruts and hard pack...
how was the track prepped? When I did one last year on the pro track it was hardly ripped, resulted in no ruts and hard pack + dust, so they were watering DURING motos. Track is no more dangerous than anything else i've ridden, its just Fast. When there are no ruts, and its hard, and then they're throwing water down on top of it, you're creating an ice rink and asking for trouble at those speeds.
The prep was a huge part of it, I raced all 3 last year and this was even flatter, faster, dustier, and had weird kickers on most of the jumps. I’m glad I got to do it but if they were smart they would stop doing these races on the pro track and go back to U2. Hopefully the national won’t be like that or I’d put money down on more helicopters.
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Premix4Life 8/2/2021 9:10am
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Terrible news! Thoughts and prayers to those impacted by these events.
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MetricHotrods 8/2/2021 9:27am
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Did someone say Pete Collins? That's not that Pete's Cycle guy on here is it? Has a lot of nice older yamahas 80s/90s..
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murph783 wrote:
I’ve heard rumblings that it was a death too. Not confirmed. New England had another death at NHMX sunday, Pete Collins. I believe he was a...
I’ve heard rumblings that it was a death too. Not confirmed. New England had another death at NHMX sunday, Pete Collins. I believe he was a member here? Great dude, he’ll be missed.
If that guy had a sweet WR500, i met him at Rewind in 2019 , and he was a cool guy for sure.

I raced there in 2019, minimal prep , due to expected rain, and it was fine, its no more dangerous than any track i have raced on anywhere here in the UK,



MX is a risky sport. I have been at races here where you get 3 Air Ambulances ... it happens, mainly because they call they out for injuries that in the old days, you would have been driven by road, or have taken yourself.
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davistld01 8/2/2021 10:01am
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Damn! It hurts to hear about riders losing their lives doing what they love. I'm so old school, that very rarely was there any reports of deaths or broken backs/necks back in "the day". Tracks have changed so much...bikes have changed, and speeds have changed as well. Our sport has always been a dangerous one, but things seem so much more sketchy these days.
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troymoto2 8/2/2021 10:57am
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creature654 wrote:
I heard the last one which cancelled the last few motos was a death on skyshot in +50. Track is way too dangerous for regular riders...
I heard the last one which cancelled the last few motos was a death on skyshot in +50. Track is way too dangerous for regular riders, the amount of helicopters and ambulance rides were unbelievable
reigninferno wrote:
from what I heard was that his heart stopped when he crashed, but they were able to resuscitate him & bring him to the hospital. I...
from what I heard was that his heart stopped when he crashed, but they were able to resuscitate him & bring him to the hospital. I dont know any other updates than that.
This is accurate, he had solid vitals when they left the track.

The other incidents were just racing incidents, I don't think you can blame the track for that. There was nobody watering during the motos. They would throw some water on as the previous class was clearing the track before the next gate drop

The kid that lost his helmet was a complete dumbass move, 100% on him and his crew.

All that being said, it's not a track for beginners and they aren't going to prep it to cater to the beginner riders. It's ride at your own risk situation and if you wanna ride over your head, that's on you.
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davistld01 wrote:
Damn! It hurts to hear about riders losing their lives doing what they love. I'm so old school, that very rarely was there any reports of...
Damn! It hurts to hear about riders losing their lives doing what they love. I'm so old school, that very rarely was there any reports of deaths or broken backs/necks back in "the day". Tracks have changed so much...bikes have changed, and speeds have changed as well. Our sport has always been a dangerous one, but things seem so much more sketchy these days.
Disclaimer…I have a 450 and love it. That said…

I feel like one issue relating to jump safety is that on two-strokes (particularly 125’s) jumps were self-limited to appropriate skills in a way. If your corner speed wasn’t up to the task, you weren’t sending the big jumps at most tracks. Now, a 250 D rider can loaf through a turn, then pull the trigger and send something that they have no business doing.
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smashingpumpkins167 8/2/2021 11:16am
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That's so terrible to hear, I want to get my one year old a PW50 eventually. But I really hate to hear stuff like this. I hope he likes trail riding when he grows up
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dmm698 8/2/2021 11:17am
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dmm698 wrote:
how was the track prepped? When I did one last year on the pro track it was hardly ripped, resulted in no ruts and hard pack...
how was the track prepped? When I did one last year on the pro track it was hardly ripped, resulted in no ruts and hard pack + dust, so they were watering DURING motos. Track is no more dangerous than anything else i've ridden, its just Fast. When there are no ruts, and its hard, and then they're throwing water down on top of it, you're creating an ice rink and asking for trouble at those speeds.
creature654 wrote:
The prep was a huge part of it, I raced all 3 last year and this was even flatter, faster, dustier, and had weird kickers on...
The prep was a huge part of it, I raced all 3 last year and this was even flatter, faster, dustier, and had weird kickers on most of the jumps. I’m glad I got to do it but if they were smart they would stop doing these races on the pro track and go back to U2. Hopefully the national won’t be like that or I’d put money down on more helicopters.
U2 is generally pretty rutty and slows people down on the national weekend. Usually due to amount of rain we get it seems that weekend every year.

I dont think any of the obstacles that are on the circuit being run by am's on the pro track are sketchy other than the double down into bowl corner after gravity cavity. When its hard pack / dusty / rutless on a track of that size the speeds are going to be super high and this is the end result. If they prepped it proper and it got rutty lap times would increase drastically and the event wouldnt finish. Darned if you do darned if you dont. I havent been back since the original time they did it for this reason.
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creature654 wrote:
I heard the last one which cancelled the last few motos was a death on skyshot in +50. Track is way too dangerous for regular riders...
I heard the last one which cancelled the last few motos was a death on skyshot in +50. Track is way too dangerous for regular riders, the amount of helicopters and ambulance rides were unbelievable
murph783 wrote:
I’ve heard rumblings that it was a death too. Not confirmed. New England had another death at NHMX sunday, Pete Collins. I believe he was a...
I’ve heard rumblings that it was a death too. Not confirmed. New England had another death at NHMX sunday, Pete Collins. I believe he was a member here? Great dude, he’ll be missed.
Was he Pete24 on here, from Massachusetts? That is fucking terrible. He always seemed like a good guy, very knowledgeable, great contributor, and always had nice bikes. RIP.
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creature654 wrote:
I heard the last one which cancelled the last few motos was a death on skyshot in +50. Track is way too dangerous for regular riders...
I heard the last one which cancelled the last few motos was a death on skyshot in +50. Track is way too dangerous for regular riders, the amount of helicopters and ambulance rides were unbelievable
murph783 wrote:
I’ve heard rumblings that it was a death too. Not confirmed. New England had another death at NHMX sunday, Pete Collins. I believe he was a...
I’ve heard rumblings that it was a death too. Not confirmed. New England had another death at NHMX sunday, Pete Collins. I believe he was a member here? Great dude, he’ll be missed.
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Was he Pete24 on here, from Massachusetts? That is fucking terrible. He always seemed like a good guy, very knowledgeable, great contributor, and always had nice...
Was he Pete24 on here, from Massachusetts? That is fucking terrible. He always seemed like a good guy, very knowledgeable, great contributor, and always had nice bikes. RIP.
Yes, pete24 had a heart attack at nhmx unfortunately
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Awful news . Condolences to his friends and family.
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dedi684 wrote:
Yes, pete24 had a heart attack at nhmx unfortunately
Damn.. one of the few guys on here i got to meet at Rewind, was good fun and we had a beer and a bit of banter , with him and his buddies.

He had a sweet ride, RIP mate , was a pleasure to meet you.
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MetricHotrods 8/2/2021 12:22pm
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Shit so it was Pete24?!

Fucking horrible.

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Shit so it was Pete24?!

Fucking horrible.

Pete24 passed at nhmx and there’s no update yet from the crash at unadilla.
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Sad reading posts like this . Let’s hope they prep it deep for nationals ! I like seeing the unadilla ruts and besides we haven’t had any rutted tracks this year where normally highpoint and thunder valley are . Whilst they made for good racing having a flatter track it’s good to have variety in a championship and fast tracks usually have more accidents as every body can go flat out where more technical riding is required for rough or rutted and let’s the cream rise to the top .
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davistld01 wrote:
Damn! It hurts to hear about riders losing their lives doing what they love. I'm so old school, that very rarely was there any reports of...
Damn! It hurts to hear about riders losing their lives doing what they love. I'm so old school, that very rarely was there any reports of deaths or broken backs/necks back in "the day". Tracks have changed so much...bikes have changed, and speeds have changed as well. Our sport has always been a dangerous one, but things seem so much more sketchy these days.
The internet and availability of such information has also changed.
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I was shocked and devastated to get the call at roughly 5pm yesterday about Pete Collins (Pete24) death at NHMX. He was one of my oldest racing buddy's and just a long time great friend and sponsor of mine. I've known him since 1981. I've probably talked with 75 or so people since yesterday and we're all just devastated and numb. He was truly one of the great guys and a great person. I still can't believe that he's gone. I spoke with him on Sat about a ride day that was happening today and then again at 3pm yesterday to doublecheck if I could go. Little did I know that roughly after his 3:03pm text reply to me that he'd be dead an hr later. It's just not fair. You will NOT find a person with a bad word to say about him. RIP old friend..... :-( :-(
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Coenmx wrote:
Sad reading posts like this . Let’s hope they prep it deep for nationals ! I like seeing the unadilla ruts and besides we haven’t had...
Sad reading posts like this . Let’s hope they prep it deep for nationals ! I like seeing the unadilla ruts and besides we haven’t had any rutted tracks this year where normally highpoint and thunder valley are . Whilst they made for good racing having a flatter track it’s good to have variety in a championship and fast tracks usually have more accidents as every body can go flat out where more technical riding is required for rough or rutted and let’s the cream rise to the top .
Better to make the jumps more forgiving. Screw those knee-deep rut o cross tracks. I raced the USGP at Unadilla in 1984 and they just turned us loose on a grassy track and let it form naturally. It was awesome back then and it still could be!
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Coenmx wrote:
Sad reading posts like this . Let’s hope they prep it deep for nationals ! I like seeing the unadilla ruts and besides we haven’t had...
Sad reading posts like this . Let’s hope they prep it deep for nationals ! I like seeing the unadilla ruts and besides we haven’t had any rutted tracks this year where normally highpoint and thunder valley are . Whilst they made for good racing having a flatter track it’s good to have variety in a championship and fast tracks usually have more accidents as every body can go flat out where more technical riding is required for rough or rutted and let’s the cream rise to the top .
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Better to make the jumps more forgiving. Screw those knee-deep rut o cross tracks. I raced the USGP at Unadilla in 1984 and they just turned...
Better to make the jumps more forgiving. Screw those knee-deep rut o cross tracks. I raced the USGP at Unadilla in 1984 and they just turned us loose on a grassy track and let it form naturally. It was awesome back then and it still could be!
Yeah I agree with you on the jumps being more forgiving .
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Digger29 wrote:
I was shocked and devastated to get the call at roughly 5pm yesterday about Pete Collins (Pete24) death at NHMX. He was one of my oldest...
I was shocked and devastated to get the call at roughly 5pm yesterday about Pete Collins (Pete24) death at NHMX. He was one of my oldest racing buddy's and just a long time great friend and sponsor of mine. I've known him since 1981. I've probably talked with 75 or so people since yesterday and we're all just devastated and numb. He was truly one of the great guys and a great person. I still can't believe that he's gone. I spoke with him on Sat about a ride day that was happening today and then again at 3pm yesterday to doublecheck if I could go. Little did I know that roughly after his 3:03pm text reply to me that he'd be dead an hr later. It's just not fair. You will NOT find a person with a bad word to say about him. RIP old friend..... :-( :-(
So sorry for your loss. I talked to Pete a few times and even bought a YZ490 from him....super nice guy. Godspeeed Pete24...Ride In Peace moto brother
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