2023 KTM models?

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I think the 16-18 models are some of the best looking bikes ever. I almost never like the way new models look with two exceptions 09...
I think the 16-18 models are some of the best looking bikes ever. I almost never like the way new models look with two exceptions 09 crf450 and 16 kim’s but that’s just me.
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[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/07/13/501584/s1200_TDubKTM350_1.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/07/13/501585/s1200_TDubKTM350_2.jpg[/img] Gotta 100% agree with you!!!


Gotta 100% agree with you!!!
zacksavchuk wrote:
Gotta agree with ya on that. Loved the stock look of 16 ktm’s.
And 16-18 frame was way better for any hobby rider than new stiffer 19-22 frame.
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What's with the large Penis shaped font fender, horrible or its the same and just a bad angle????
Sometimes a fender is just a fender.
Ktmnorway 7/15/2021 12:35am
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According to a dutch engine builder for one of the MXGP teams the current SXF250 factory bikes over there that run the 2023 spec engines are pushing over 3hp more than with the 2019- spec engines.
This must mean a significant difference in stock platform aswell.
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Davinci67 wrote:
So I get the rear shock is different on the new 23 gen bike, but can anyone definitively say that if I buy a set of...
So I get the rear shock is different on the new 23 gen bike, but can anyone definitively say that if I buy a set of cone valves for my 21.5 FE they will work on the new gen bike or not? that would be an expensive mistake of it doesn’t work lol.
I've been told that the newest cone valves will work - (2019 is the year I believe they received an update)
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eg351 wrote:
I've been told that the newest cone valves will work - (2019 is the year I believe they received an update)
Thanks yep you’re correct. I was able to have someone confirm with someone inside WP the cone forks will work on the new gen bike, shock will not.
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Im suppose to go buy a 22 350 friday and this is giving me big FOMO
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Im suppose to go buy a 22 350 friday and this is giving me big FOMO [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/07/21/502505/s1200_Screen_Shot_2021_07_21_at_12.14.27_PM.jpg[/img]
Im suppose to go buy a 22 350 friday and this is giving me big FOMO
I know that feeling myself lol. 23’s most likely won’t be here until summer next year (unless they release a FE350). How much do you want to ride now, do you have another bike, and even if you got the new one next year will it be that much better then a 22? All things to consider. I’m a sucker for new bikes but sometimes the 2nd year revisions on a new gen bike are better then the 1st year. And you can look at it like the 22 is the most refined just like the 26 should be for the next gen.
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Motofinne 7/26/2021 5:04am
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I hope someone took some closer pics of Bogers' Gas Gas.

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First gen bikes have always had their issues with little things and parts availability.

Based on what I know about the 2023 models, I'm sticking with the current 2021 450, and I'll probably pick up a 2022 to get me through next racing year.

Somebody want a clean 2018 350?





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If a 22FE 350 exists or the 23s have an air shock I'm getting one! 21 is great though
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Davinci67 7/26/2021 3:49pm
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Brent wrote:
First gen bikes have always had their issues with little things and parts availability. Based on what I know about the 2023 models, I'm sticking with...
First gen bikes have always had their issues with little things and parts availability.

Based on what I know about the 2023 models, I'm sticking with the current 2021 450, and I'll probably pick up a 2022 to get me through next racing year.

Somebody want a clean 2018 350?





What makes you hesitant for the new gen bike? You said based on what you know, do tell!
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Brent 7/26/2021 6:06pm
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Davinci67 wrote:
What makes you hesitant for the new gen bike? You said based on what you know, do tell!
My suspension, ECU, and maybe wheels may or may not fit on the new bike. I’ve been told so many things by guys who work there.

Plus I’m so comfortable on the current gen 450 , the 2023 will have to be one hell of an improvement for me to start over with new stuff.

Who knows, we will see for sure in December I guess…
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Still no Boger's picture's?

Found this on KTMtalk

Here’s what hard_enduro_life is saying about the 2023 models:
- SX getting TBI/premix
- XC getting TBI/oil injection
- Both models getting an electronic power valve
- XC-W TBI coming in 2024
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Who cares about KTM..
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reded301 wrote:
The majority of us can only look at the pictures.
Little hint...use google translate:

"As soon as the 2022 models from Austria have been presented, we have already received a picture that might even show the 250 of the 2023 model series.

Judging by the picture, the engine block still seems to be quite similar to the one known so far, but the DOHC cylinder head is completely new. But that does not seem to be all by a long way, because the frame also has a different guidance of the side pulls. It is therefore clear that a steel frame is still used in Mattighofen.

The swing arm and the deflection, which are combined with a completely new WP shock absorber, have also been visibly changed. The latter seems to be positioned lower than before in the frame and has a pressure level adjustment that can be adjusted by hand - i.e. without tools. We do not have any further information at the moment.


Is this what the cylinder head of the 350 Husqvarna 2023 looks like?
Similar to the 250, the 350 will probably get a completely new cylinder head, of which we were also leaked a picture.

Of course, these are all speculations at the moment and no one from Mattighofen will confirm our assumption if they want to keep their job. If we actually see a picture here that shows the 2023 technology, it can be assumed that the external appearance of the series will also change in the direction of the plastic parts."

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tek14 wrote:
Factory team running TBI enduro 2-stroke bikes at hard enduro events. So 2 fuel injectors are in throttle body. View this post on Instagram A post...
Factory team running TBI enduro 2-stroke bikes at hard enduro events. So 2 fuel injectors are in throttle body.

Kind of old news, almost 2 years they have been running different versions on the Factory bikes.
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reded301 wrote:
The majority of us can only look at the pictures.
SD15 wrote:
Google Translator is your friend Smile
reded301 wrote:
Must be too early in the morning for humor….Wink
Did you say something funny?
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tek14 wrote:
Factory team running TBI enduro 2-stroke bikes at hard enduro events. So 2 fuel injectors are in throttle body. View this post on Instagram A post...
Factory team running TBI enduro 2-stroke bikes at hard enduro events. So 2 fuel injectors are in throttle body.

Alright, I'll probably get some hate for this, but I gotta ask.
What is the difference between tpi and tbi?
Probably a dumb question to most of you, but I honestly have no idea.
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tek14 wrote:
Factory team running TBI enduro 2-stroke bikes at hard enduro events. So 2 fuel injectors are in throttle body. View this post on Instagram A post...
Factory team running TBI enduro 2-stroke bikes at hard enduro events. So 2 fuel injectors are in throttle body.

CR92 wrote:
Alright, I'll probably get some hate for this, but I gotta ask. What is the difference between tpi and tbi? Probably a dumb question to most...
Alright, I'll probably get some hate for this, but I gotta ask.
What is the difference between tpi and tbi?
Probably a dumb question to most of you, but I honestly have no idea.
I think one is transfer port injection and the other is throttle body injection.

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Bruce372 8/20/2021 7:33am
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The original ktm 2 stroke injection bikes have aftermarket setup to move the injection from the transfer ports in the cylinder to the Reed cage or similar?
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tek14 wrote:
Factory team running TBI enduro 2-stroke bikes at hard enduro events. So 2 fuel injectors are in throttle body. View this post on Instagram A post...
Factory team running TBI enduro 2-stroke bikes at hard enduro events. So 2 fuel injectors are in throttle body.

CR92 wrote:
Alright, I'll probably get some hate for this, but I gotta ask. What is the difference between tpi and tbi? Probably a dumb question to most...
Alright, I'll probably get some hate for this, but I gotta ask.
What is the difference between tpi and tbi?
Probably a dumb question to most of you, but I honestly have no idea.
Bruce372 wrote:
I think one is transfer port injection and the other is throttle body injection.

Yes. With TPI the fuel is injected into the transfer ports. This causes the crankcase to run much drier with regards to fuel (but the oil is still injected near the reeds). Also, premix alone cannot be used with TPI since the crankcase doesn’t see very much fuel.

TBI is just like the fuel injection on 4 strokes. Fuel injected in the throttle body before the reeds. This creates a crankcase full of fuel and oil just like on a carb bike. Also allows for premix just like with a carb.

Supposedly KTM went with TPI for emissions reasons. I guess they can time the fuel well enough that less ends up in the exhaust.

There are conversion kits to go from TPI to TBI. Guys who have tried it usually say TBI has stronger throttle response.
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Any new photos pop up?
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Brent wrote:
First gen bikes have always had their issues with little things and parts availability. Based on what I know about the 2023 models, I'm sticking with...
First gen bikes have always had their issues with little things and parts availability.

Based on what I know about the 2023 models, I'm sticking with the current 2021 450, and I'll probably pick up a 2022 to get me through next racing year.

Somebody want a clean 2018 350?





Hi Brent, beautiful looking pair of bikes. Unfortunately i'm in the UK so will struggle to buy your 350. I am interested in where you got the graphics made for it though. Are they custom? Currently my 17 is running OEM graphics/plastics (only 20hrs) and I'm finding it hard to get a set of graphics that are not to busy and maintain a clean look just as yours do. Are you also running flo plastics? Thanks!

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