What class do YOU race?

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12/13/2020 5:09pm Edited Date/Time 12/13/2020 5:09pm
Zack must have smoked those guys in the GNCC race he did. I mean a novice mx'er wins the expert class off road so one of...
Zack must have smoked those guys in the GNCC race he did. I mean a novice mx'er wins the expert class off road so one of the best mx riders on the planet would kills those guys
Once again, it was Club level expert..

A local expert offroad race isn’t that fast. I think most would agree.

Zach osborne didn’t race a club level offroad event.
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12/13/2020 5:21pm
ElliotB16 wrote:
B class and 25+, 30+ at local races. C class is stupid fast at the national level
I’m currently a Vet B rider, used to be local A rider.

In 2006 I won a moto at Lake Whitney (10th OA that class) and Oak Hill (3rd OA that class) in 450c. I raced C class nationally and was immediately a top 5 B rider locally when I moved up. C class is stupid nationally.
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12/13/2020 5:31pm Edited Date/Time 12/13/2020 5:32pm
I used to be one of the quicker guys locally, but over the past 14 years I’m averaging one race every 4 years and it’s in some form of C / novice class. Otherwise I’m out at a practice about 2 times a year to turn some casual laps.
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12/13/2020 5:37pm
hypermoto wrote:
I said “National” level class and it’s 50/50 of Loretta Lynn’s B-Pro am level riders and beginner-Novice riders. I’m surprised. I am talking strictly MX. When...
I said “National” level class and it’s 50/50 of Loretta Lynn’s B-Pro am level riders and beginner-Novice riders. I’m surprised.

I am talking strictly MX. When I was in C I raced a offroad event in “expert” and got a top 5. Having not ever ridden a trail before and being 15 (started riding the year before)
agn5009 wrote:
:laugh: it’s so hilarious to see yahoo’s like you try to sound like you know what you’re talking about. You come on here and spew all...
Laughing it’s so hilarious to see yahoo’s like you try to sound like you know what you’re talking about. You come on here and spew all this nonsense and absolutely no one here believes a thing you say. It’s so easy to pick out dingalings here Laughing

Anyways, Vet A in HS. Was a local A class MXer who was in the group of guys who could qualify and take around last in A at Lorettas Laughing that’s where guys I raced with who had similar speed as me finished when they’d go. I never tried though, we didn’t have the money to travel there for me to take 30th place.
hypermoto wrote:
Dinagalings like me lol have you seen your profile picture. If that’s a LL A rider idk what to say. I qualified for LL C class...
Dinagalings like me lol have you seen your profile picture. If that’s a LL A rider idk what to say.

I qualified for LL C class in 18 and can race club level A guys. I was shocked how fast they were. You should line up to refresh yourself lol
Laughing oh man. This is good stuff.
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hypermoto wrote:
I said “National” level class and it’s 50/50 of Loretta Lynn’s B-Pro am level riders and beginner-Novice riders. I’m surprised. I am talking strictly MX. When...
I said “National” level class and it’s 50/50 of Loretta Lynn’s B-Pro am level riders and beginner-Novice riders. I’m surprised.

I am talking strictly MX. When I was in C I raced a offroad event in “expert” and got a top 5. Having not ever ridden a trail before and being 15 (started riding the year before)
agn5009 wrote:
:laugh: it’s so hilarious to see yahoo’s like you try to sound like you know what you’re talking about. You come on here and spew all...
Laughing it’s so hilarious to see yahoo’s like you try to sound like you know what you’re talking about. You come on here and spew all this nonsense and absolutely no one here believes a thing you say. It’s so easy to pick out dingalings here Laughing

Anyways, Vet A in HS. Was a local A class MXer who was in the group of guys who could qualify and take around last in A at Lorettas Laughing that’s where guys I raced with who had similar speed as me finished when they’d go. I never tried though, we didn’t have the money to travel there for me to take 30th place.
hypermoto wrote:
Dinagalings like me lol have you seen your profile picture. If that’s a LL A rider idk what to say. I qualified for LL C class...
Dinagalings like me lol have you seen your profile picture. If that’s a LL A rider idk what to say.

I qualified for LL C class in 18 and can race club level A guys. I was shocked how fast they were. You should line up to refresh yourself lol
STFU Noob..
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Zack must have smoked those guys in the GNCC race he did. I mean a novice mx'er wins the expert class off road so one of...
Zack must have smoked those guys in the GNCC race he did. I mean a novice mx'er wins the expert class off road so one of the best mx riders on the planet would kills those guys
hypermoto wrote:
Once again, it was Club level expert.. A local expert offroad race isn’t that fast. I think most would agree. Zach osborne didn’t race a club...
Once again, it was Club level expert..

A local expert offroad race isn’t that fast. I think most would agree.

Zach osborne didn’t race a club level offroad event.
No, most don’t agree. I don’t know where you’re from and I’m sure it’s different throughout the country but I can tell you that in PA guys who take top 3 O/A at our local series will oftentimes finish inside the top 30 O/A at a GNCC. Broc Hepler, Liam Draper, Mason Atherton, Jesse Ansley are all capable or have finished that high at GNCCs. But go ahead, keep digging.
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12/13/2020 5:53pm
hypermoto wrote:
I said “National” level class and it’s 50/50 of Loretta Lynn’s B-Pro am level riders and beginner-Novice riders. I’m surprised. I am talking strictly MX. When...
I said “National” level class and it’s 50/50 of Loretta Lynn’s B-Pro am level riders and beginner-Novice riders. I’m surprised.

I am talking strictly MX. When I was in C I raced a offroad event in “expert” and got a top 5. Having not ever ridden a trail before and being 15 (started riding the year before)
agn5009 wrote:
:laugh: it’s so hilarious to see yahoo’s like you try to sound like you know what you’re talking about. You come on here and spew all...
Laughing it’s so hilarious to see yahoo’s like you try to sound like you know what you’re talking about. You come on here and spew all this nonsense and absolutely no one here believes a thing you say. It’s so easy to pick out dingalings here Laughing

Anyways, Vet A in HS. Was a local A class MXer who was in the group of guys who could qualify and take around last in A at Lorettas Laughing that’s where guys I raced with who had similar speed as me finished when they’d go. I never tried though, we didn’t have the money to travel there for me to take 30th place.
hypermoto wrote:
Dinagalings like me lol have you seen your profile picture. If that’s a LL A rider idk what to say. I qualified for LL C class...
Dinagalings like me lol have you seen your profile picture. If that’s a LL A rider idk what to say.

I qualified for LL C class in 18 and can race club level A guys. I was shocked how fast they were. You should line up to refresh yourself lol
Btw, my profile picture was of me right before the finish line of my first overall win when I was younger. It was one of the only races my mom ever attended because she was a nervous wreck and it happened to be the first race I ever overalled. The picture has meaning. I’m not here to argue how “fast” I was because it’s all meaningless. I was no Kaliub Russell obviously. But you’re acting like a real donkey in here.
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12/13/2020 5:55pm
Raced Vet A locally 2 million years ago. I've been thinking about doing a few next year, but have no idea what class I would run at this point. Probably D- to E speed currently. LOL
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12/13/2020 5:58pm
agn5009 wrote:
:laugh: it’s so hilarious to see yahoo’s like you try to sound like you know what you’re talking about. You come on here and spew all...
Laughing it’s so hilarious to see yahoo’s like you try to sound like you know what you’re talking about. You come on here and spew all this nonsense and absolutely no one here believes a thing you say. It’s so easy to pick out dingalings here Laughing

Anyways, Vet A in HS. Was a local A class MXer who was in the group of guys who could qualify and take around last in A at Lorettas Laughing that’s where guys I raced with who had similar speed as me finished when they’d go. I never tried though, we didn’t have the money to travel there for me to take 30th place.
hypermoto wrote:
Dinagalings like me lol have you seen your profile picture. If that’s a LL A rider idk what to say. I qualified for LL C class...
Dinagalings like me lol have you seen your profile picture. If that’s a LL A rider idk what to say.

I qualified for LL C class in 18 and can race club level A guys. I was shocked how fast they were. You should line up to refresh yourself lol
agn5009 wrote:
Btw, my profile picture was of me right before the finish line of my first overall win when I was younger. It was one of the...
Btw, my profile picture was of me right before the finish line of my first overall win when I was younger. It was one of the only races my mom ever attended because she was a nervous wreck and it happened to be the first race I ever overalled. The picture has meaning. I’m not here to argue how “fast” I was because it’s all meaningless. I was no Kaliub Russell obviously. But you’re acting like a real donkey in here.
No, you are acting like a donkey because somehow you got offended I said I got top 5 at a local Offroad race in the “expert” class as a C class motocross racer. Which actually happened. You initiated this by saying I know nothing 🤣 i wish Offroad Ontario results were easier to access from years ago because I’d love to post them.
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Zack must have smoked those guys in the GNCC race he did. I mean a novice mx'er wins the expert class off road so one of...
Zack must have smoked those guys in the GNCC race he did. I mean a novice mx'er wins the expert class off road so one of the best mx riders on the planet would kills those guys
hypermoto wrote:
Once again, it was Club level expert.. A local expert offroad race isn’t that fast. I think most would agree. Zach osborne didn’t race a club...
Once again, it was Club level expert..

A local expert offroad race isn’t that fast. I think most would agree.

Zach osborne didn’t race a club level offroad event.
agn5009 wrote:
No, most don’t agree. I don’t know where you’re from and I’m sure it’s different throughout the country but I can tell you that in PA...
No, most don’t agree. I don’t know where you’re from and I’m sure it’s different throughout the country but I can tell you that in PA guys who take top 3 O/A at our local series will oftentimes finish inside the top 30 O/A at a GNCC. Broc Hepler, Liam Draper, Mason Atherton, Jesse Ansley are all capable or have finished that high at GNCCs. But go ahead, keep digging.
At a GNCC.

Once again.

I’m talking a local/club Expert Offroad racer. My point is this thread is about National Motocross classes. A club/local Offroad Expert would not (most of the time) be a Intermediate-Pro national motocross racer.

Now a GNCC professional offroad racer... sure. Good chance they are pretty good at moto too.
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hypermoto wrote:
Once again, it was Club level expert.. A local expert offroad race isn’t that fast. I think most would agree. Zach osborne didn’t race a club...
Once again, it was Club level expert..

A local expert offroad race isn’t that fast. I think most would agree.

Zach osborne didn’t race a club level offroad event.
agn5009 wrote:
No, most don’t agree. I don’t know where you’re from and I’m sure it’s different throughout the country but I can tell you that in PA...
No, most don’t agree. I don’t know where you’re from and I’m sure it’s different throughout the country but I can tell you that in PA guys who take top 3 O/A at our local series will oftentimes finish inside the top 30 O/A at a GNCC. Broc Hepler, Liam Draper, Mason Atherton, Jesse Ansley are all capable or have finished that high at GNCCs. But go ahead, keep digging.
hypermoto wrote:
At a GNCC. Once again. I’m talking a local/club Expert Offroad racer. My point is this thread is about National Motocross classes. A club/local Offroad Expert...
At a GNCC.

Once again.

I’m talking a local/club Expert Offroad racer. My point is this thread is about National Motocross classes. A club/local Offroad Expert would not (most of the time) be a Intermediate-Pro national motocross racer.

Now a GNCC professional offroad racer... sure. Good chance they are pretty good at moto too.
Show me in your original post where you say you’re asking for someone’s motocross only skill level. You asked what class we race.
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12/13/2020 6:23pm Edited Date/Time 12/13/2020 6:42pm
agn5009 wrote:
Show me in your original post where you say you’re asking for someone’s motocross only skill level. You asked what class we race.
Scratch me explaining, no need for that.

I forgot to mention MX, but no problem (I said it literally about 2 posts later). I said NATIONAL. If you are a NATIONAL caliber Intermediate-Pro Offroad racer, very impressive. If you fall on the pro end of that, it means you race guys like Russell

A national level MX Inter-Pro example is Levi Kitchen or... Eli tomac.

A National level Offroad Inter or Pro... Russell.

I know you voted for Inter-Pro so I’m glad to see that’s the level you see yourself on.
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12/13/2020 6:32pm
The only race I do is the Lake Elsinore Grand Prix and it was cancelled this year. Fudge.
OG725 wrote:
Really?
Yeah the track was a disaster last year. It was dangerous because it was so dusty. I figured it had something to do with that. Supposedly they are working on bringing it back next year. In regards to my other statement....yes, I have a six month old so not a lot of racing for me.
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12/13/2020 6:33pm
need2ride wrote:
Raced 40 Nov. today. I hope nobody saw my starts.:Sick Whistling
Motodave15 wrote:
Har!! I watched that race too.. you guys were on the Glen Helen national track..... I stuck with my class, +30 beginners over there on the...
Har!! I watched that race too.. you guys were on the Glen Helen national track.....

I stuck with my class, +30 beginners over there on the REM Track Tongue Tongue
Was at Perris w/ SoCal old timers.
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12/13/2020 6:36pm
Technically neither because I'm slow on a dirt bike....but I did win a three wheeler national last year.
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Local Pro/AA offroad, top 3-5 guy locally.

The guys winning my local series are lucky to be midpack in Pro2 at nationals.
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National caliber/ club level beginner in the EMX 30+ c/d
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Technically neither because I'm slow on a dirt bike....but I did win a three wheeler national last year.
Years ago it cost one dollar to race Pro class on Friday nights AT SIR. We all did it. Then on Sunday raced VET B at washougal.
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The CLASS system is a fail. Lap times should be used wherever practical to determine what gate you line up on.

Me, I suck for 50 years now, but still going.
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Thread Summary: OP is insecure in his own abilities and would like to take everyone else down a notch to make himself feel better.
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Broseph wrote:
Thread Summary: OP is insecure in his own abilities and would like to take everyone else down a notch to make himself feel better.
I'm just happy I'm a faceless nobody with a blank profile pick. OP has the ability to know your speed just by looking at a profile pic.
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Me thinks the op is a kid.
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Me thinks the op is a kid.
X2..
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My profile Photo, looks like I’m about to be signed up to the KTM factory team.
I really am a slow old 55 year old that’s races MX, and started Flat Track racing a couple of years ago.
Been racing for 40 years, now it’s great to get out with friends on the weekend, the bench racing is better than the actual races.
Not actually sure what the original poster was getting at,
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12/13/2020 11:16pm
hypermoto wrote:
I said “National” level class and it’s 50/50 of Loretta Lynn’s B-Pro am level riders and beginner-Novice riders. I’m surprised. I am talking strictly MX. When...
I said “National” level class and it’s 50/50 of Loretta Lynn’s B-Pro am level riders and beginner-Novice riders. I’m surprised.

I am talking strictly MX. When I was in C I raced a offroad event in “expert” and got a top 5. Having not ever ridden a trail before and being 15 (started riding the year before)
agn5009 wrote:
Oh, and go ask Zach Osborne and Mitch Harrison if they think off-road guys are slow 😂
Zack must have smoked those guys in the GNCC race he did. I mean a novice mx'er wins the expert class off road so one of...
Zack must have smoked those guys in the GNCC race he did. I mean a novice mx'er wins the expert class off road so one of the best mx riders on the planet would kills those guys
That’s not what he was talking about. Here in So Cal we have the NGPC which was originally known as the Big 6 series. I worked with a guy who raced Pro in both Big 6 and WORCS tell me if I ever came out to race the Big 6 GP to sign up as an Intermediate. I rode 250 Novice in moto at the time. He was a top ten Pro and told me that was the fair cross over for classes.

We also have a beginner/D class here on the west coast. Most of the beginners/D class do 95% of the jumps on every track, the top 5-10 Novice/C guys would finish top 10-15 in a full gate of intermediates/b and the top 5 Intermediates/B would finish really well in a full class of pros/a at each local series.

I’ve said it before and will continue to say it over and over again, out west, the Novice/C class is no joke! It’s not like other areas of the country where the C guys are a bunch of so called “squids” or newer/beginner racers that so many seem to make fun of.
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agn5009 wrote:
Oh, and go ask Zach Osborne and Mitch Harrison if they think off-road guys are slow 😂
Zack must have smoked those guys in the GNCC race he did. I mean a novice mx'er wins the expert class off road so one of...
Zack must have smoked those guys in the GNCC race he did. I mean a novice mx'er wins the expert class off road so one of the best mx riders on the planet would kills those guys
mattyhamz2 wrote:
That’s not what he was talking about. Here in So Cal we have the NGPC which was originally known as the Big 6 series. I worked...
That’s not what he was talking about. Here in So Cal we have the NGPC which was originally known as the Big 6 series. I worked with a guy who raced Pro in both Big 6 and WORCS tell me if I ever came out to race the Big 6 GP to sign up as an Intermediate. I rode 250 Novice in moto at the time. He was a top ten Pro and told me that was the fair cross over for classes.

We also have a beginner/D class here on the west coast. Most of the beginners/D class do 95% of the jumps on every track, the top 5-10 Novice/C guys would finish top 10-15 in a full gate of intermediates/b and the top 5 Intermediates/B would finish really well in a full class of pros/a at each local series.

I’ve said it before and will continue to say it over and over again, out west, the Novice/C class is no joke! It’s not like other areas of the country where the C guys are a bunch of so called “squids” or newer/beginner racers that so many seem to make fun of.
This...
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12/14/2020 2:34am Edited Date/Time 12/14/2020 3:02am
Broseph wrote:
Thread Summary: OP is insecure in his own abilities and would like to take everyone else down a notch to make himself feel better.
No, It’s just comical seeing guys on this forum lie about their abilities as full grown adults to make their opinions seem more credible. And to see offroad guys get offended that an MX rider typically goes up a class or two if they race a local offroad race.

If you are so much better than national level C class riders post up the results to prove it
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12/14/2020 2:47am
Vet 50 ...marathon running. Looking to finally break 2hrs 45mins this year
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40+
I see there's a 40+ b/c also but I just stick to getting beat up in the regular 40+

Way back in the day before 2 strokes were pushed out, back in 2005 my last year racing I WAS a 250B top 10 rider in Michigan Dist 14

A lot has changed in the sport, i feel people are way faster now than they were back then in all classes.

Fitness is way up for most and equipment is so good right now.

Video age imo has taken the sport to a higher level/class ability too. You can now watch and study everything/everyone and learn some to help speed progression. The level of people you ride with also escalates your game, ride up a class on open practice days to help your speed in your specific class.

Either way, whatever class you race, just enjoy the ride and time with like minded common interest people. Afterall, moto crowd/scene is THE BEST there is! 🤙
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Local experts are not as fast as the top national pros but they are by no means slow.
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