Ahh Shiet

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Going against the grain here but vet beginner at a transworld race will have some very fast guys that are actually novices and possibly a couple of true intermediates. Which means, i would much rather be up front with the guys that actually have experience racing and arent going to take me out for 18th place. So, my philosophy has always been to holeshot and sprint away from all the carnage in the back that inevitably will happen!
That was my effort in teaching my son when he first started racing also and has proven to be very effective! And i will say my son is not aggressive in nature so urging him to beat everyone out of the gate and to the first turn was not the easiest. Once he quickly learned that dad was right he went on to continue that strategy and was very effective at it.
One other thing that i would do myself was to pick far outside gate, once again to stay away from all the carnage that will ensue in the first corner as everyone bunches up to the inside, because thats where everyone goes!

1. Be confident!! ( Not nervous)
2. Envision yourself getting the holeshot and picking your lines and checking out! (All week leading up to raceday)
3. Hold your line! (No swerving back and forth)
4. Dont look back
5. Dont slow down trying to get out of a faster riders way.

Sidebar:
Be sure your machine is mechanically sound and double check bolts, air pressure ,coolant, oil etc.
Marginally prepped equipment can get you or others injured etc.
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gt80rider
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Stay calm.... do everything you can, to Not Get Arm Pump.... for most people this means riding at around at your 80% mark....
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Motodave15
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walent215 wrote:
Going against the grain here but vet beginner at a transworld race will have some very fast guys that are actually novices and possibly a couple...
Going against the grain here but vet beginner at a transworld race will have some very fast guys that are actually novices and possibly a couple of true intermediates. Which means, i would much rather be up front with the guys that actually have experience racing and arent going to take me out for 18th place. So, my philosophy has always been to holeshot and sprint away from all the carnage in the back that inevitably will happen!
That was my effort in teaching my son when he first started racing also and has proven to be very effective! And i will say my son is not aggressive in nature so urging him to beat everyone out of the gate and to the first turn was not the easiest. Once he quickly learned that dad was right he went on to continue that strategy and was very effective at it.
One other thing that i would do myself was to pick far outside gate, once again to stay away from all the carnage that will ensue in the first corner as everyone bunches up to the inside, because thats where everyone goes!

1. Be confident!! ( Not nervous)
2. Envision yourself getting the holeshot and picking your lines and checking out! (All week leading up to raceday)
3. Hold your line! (No swerving back and forth)
4. Dont look back
5. Dont slow down trying to get out of a faster riders way.

Sidebar:
Be sure your machine is mechanically sound and double check bolts, air pressure ,coolant, oil etc.
Marginally prepped equipment can get you or others injured etc.
See thats why i went with 30+ beginners. Because as you said being a transworld series it will probably have some really fast dudes in the class.

Just as a insight, I Ride Perris's maintrack and can jump everything and hold my own for like 2 and a half laps. Then as Moto520 says i need to learn how to breathe. Because im super super guilty of riding 2 and half/ 3 laps hard then going into holding breathe mode.

Thankyou all for the advise so far!
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11/4/2020 12:52pm Edited Date/Time 11/4/2020 12:59pm
Just relax and have fun...forget about everything else. When I was beginning I was always thrown these tips by fast guys. But the one thing I wished I had been told was to relax and let it come to you!
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11/4/2020 1:01pm
Ass up, elbows out, pin it.

Not much more to it
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11/4/2020 1:05pm
Just know that in the beginner class, just about everyone is as tired as you are. Don't be intimidated.
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need2ride
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11/4/2020 1:46pm
If you can jump everything on the Perris main, hold your own for a couple, you're racing the beg class on statefair vet? I would step up a class and at least be on the main there- prob more fun. The vet at statefair is kinda an 80cc track.
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Start last and work forward
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11/4/2020 2:27pm
Don't light up the back tire , leaving the concrete start . Sit in the middle of the seat , get the bike rolling off the concrete , before you pin it. Have fun.
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11/4/2020 2:27pm
Hold your line, fuk the rest. You'll figure it out as you go.
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cable
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11/4/2020 3:16pm
sign up for a 2nd class to take the pressure off. even if you want to start last. and hope that class is an earlier class. Smile
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11/4/2020 3:31pm
The swap beginner/novice classes are usually full gates. Lots of sand baggers in beginner especially but fuck it hold your line and have fun. If you want a less packed gate, talking 2-3 dudes, race 450 intermediate. Biggest turn out has been like 5 dudes haha
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11/4/2020 8:36pm
Everyone has nerves rattling around like you do; act like you don't.

Listen to White Zombie just before you throw a leg over.

Talk smack to at least one other rider. Appear very confident. Apologize in advance to the rider next to you for what is about to happen.

You have two acceptable outcomes:
A> Win
B> Crash



That's all I can think of right now...
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11/4/2020 9:22pm
TogaSet wrote:
Being nervous is part of the fun. Embrace it. Face your fear head on. You’ll feel like a new man afterward.
The nervousness is real! I used to not be able to eat on race days because I would throw it up. Miss those days.
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Motodave15 wrote:
So, I signed up for my first mx race ever. Swapmoto series triple crown (statefair mx) nov22.... any tips for +30 Beginner racing??.... Mind you i've...
So, I signed up for my first mx race ever. Swapmoto series triple crown (statefair mx) nov22.... any tips for +30 Beginner racing??.... Mind you i've been a professional practice rider since i was 15 and only have like 3 legit gatedrops, but those were back in like 08-09 at milestone when they did mock races.

Just signed up and im already more nervous, than bmx racing/mtb racing lol
Dave, your thread got me interested in hitting this race. I'd be down to join you if you're looking for someone to race and practice with. Sent you a PM.
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11/5/2020 1:26pm
A lot of great advice on this thread, it is definitely hard to hold onto any of it in the moment as you will soon see. But I'm going to echo a few things that I think are the most important for your situation.
1- Practice starts, but don't stress about it too much for that first moto. I don't know how crowded your race is but if there is any way you can pick a slot with an open gate next to it, do that. You want to get a clean start that puts you with people of comparable ability if possible. You will probably see a wide variety of skill levels even in that class, and over the course of a moto things will sort themselves out.
2- DON'T FOLLOW!!! You don't have to be all the way across the track, but leave yourself at least half a bar width. Beginners fall a lot, and if you are right behind them, you will too. Even with a crappy start you will pick people off in a beginner class just by staying on two wheels and capitalizing when they fall or bobble in a turn.
3- Hold your line on jumps. Lap one will be a shit show, so while you are not following, also make sure that when you jump, go straight and hold your line. Either someone in front of you will back out of a jump or swerve, or someone behind you will jump it if you aren't. Holding your line is the best chance at staying safe, and once you are through that first lap things usually start to settle down.
4- I would tell you to breathe, but the odds of anyone remembering that on the first lap of their first race are pretty slim. And once your O2 goes upside down, there really isn't any getting it back during the moto. If you do some type of warm up before your moto it will really help, especially if you are only running one class and waiting for hours between motos. What ever gets your heart rate up about 10 minutes before gate drop. Jumping Jack's, burpee, whatever. Just get that pulse going.

Have fun and be safe!!! And if at all possible get some gopro and share it with us after! I think you have a pretty big virtual cheering section in this thread, we all know what a big deal racing your first race is!!
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11/5/2020 1:37pm
First or Last!!

Lol, have fun thats what its all about of course. Get thru the first turn then do your thing.
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11/5/2020 2:26pm
remember why you do this shit..

If you have something to lose, ride that way.. its simple.. dont let the adrenaline cause you to do something you wouldnt normally do because you are competitive.. Would hate to see you miss a house/rent payment because of a beginner race mistake..which is faily easy to do when that class cant seem to go straight or hold a line.. if you have 15 years of Exp.. your probably gonna get bounced fairly quickly to Novice at least.. the goal should be to get out of beginner as fast as possible. I think your chances of getting hurt are higher in beginner.

Ride within your ability and have fun!
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11/22/2020 3:56pm
A few forum members asked me for a update!

I Really really wish i did not wait so long to race. Today was effing amazing on the starting line with 18 other riders. (9) in my class, go figure the biggest one lol.

Anyway i brought home some hardware (The Good Kind)!!
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11/22/2020 4:09pm Edited Date/Time 11/22/2020 6:59pm
Line up in the gate backwards to mindfuck everybody and then just have fun passing as many as you can. There’s nothing funner than coming from dead last, when you haven’t crashed / banged yourself up.
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11/22/2020 5:36pm
Outstanding! Everyone remembers their first race vividly, especially if it went well, as yours obviously did.
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Congrats! Looks like it went well
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Motodave15 wrote:
A few forum members asked me for a update! I Really really wish i did not wait so long to race. Today was effing amazing on...
A few forum members asked me for a update!

I Really really wish i did not wait so long to race. Today was effing amazing on the starting line with 18 other riders. (9) in my class, go figure the biggest one lol.

Anyway i brought home some hardware (The Good Kind)!!
Good job bud!
How were your starts?
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Motodave15 wrote:
A few forum members asked me for a update! I Really really wish i did not wait so long to race. Today was effing amazing on...
A few forum members asked me for a update!

I Really really wish i did not wait so long to race. Today was effing amazing on the starting line with 18 other riders. (9) in my class, go figure the biggest one lol.

Anyway i brought home some hardware (The Good Kind)!!
walent215 wrote:
Good job bud!
How were your starts?
Moto1, i was seriously like 6th or 7th around the first corner.. By the 3rd corner i had worked my way to 3rd place... Idk which class it was but i was going as fast as i could lol... I ended up dropping an anchor with half a lap remaing in the moto and got passed by 2 dudes.... 1 of them happend to be the race winner of my class.. and i got 2nd.. and the other guy was in another class all together.

Moto2... Great jump, got the inside holeshot and this time i was side by side with the other dude.. and we motod for a bit..i left the inside door open and the guy in the faster class blocked passed me which let two guys past me and i ended up 3rd. That race.


A good friend of mine said to grip the shrouds with my thighs as tight as i could off the start and be up on the tank.. and low and behold, thats how i got that 2nd moto holeshot.
11/22/2020 7:45pm Edited Date/Time 11/22/2020 7:51pm
Motodave15 wrote:
So, I signed up for my first mx race ever. Swapmoto series triple crown (statefair mx) nov22.... any tips for +30 Beginner racing??.... Mind you i've...
So, I signed up for my first mx race ever. Swapmoto series triple crown (statefair mx) nov22.... any tips for +30 Beginner racing??.... Mind you i've been a professional practice rider since i was 15 and only have like 3 legit gatedrops, but those were back in like 08-09 at milestone when they did mock races.

Just signed up and im already more nervous, than bmx racing/mtb racing lol
Just take it easy and enjoy it. You're not out to prove anything or get a factory ride. Just have fun...and good luck!

lol, just saw the update...awesome job!
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11/22/2020 9:24pm
Nice, did your class race on the main or the vet?
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We want a play by play, first Moto start and how it went, second Moto, also how did practice go? Do you ride there often?
Motodave15
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11/23/2020 11:51am Edited Date/Time 11/23/2020 11:54am
@Hubbardmx50
-My class was on the vet track, and thank goodness because the rollers on the main track took out and sent them either home or to the er

@Rongi#41

Practice, we talking about practiceGrinning Well i noobed it up and 1st lap was getting roosted to the high heavens and then the 2nd lap, crashed like a herp derp in a turn lol. and practice was over checkered flag for the bigbikes. I ended up missing my 8min practice session because we parked way way off in the back and couldnt really hear the speakers. I mainly ride statefair and perris.. so essentially they're my home tracks....Glen Helen is going to be my big question mark, Idk if i have 5 glen helen laps in me.

I'm going to post the videos to youtube today. Ill put them in this thread when im done.
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11/23/2020 5:23pm Edited Date/Time 11/23/2020 6:37pm




For the people who asked, here are moto 1 & 2...I hope to see some of you guys out there at the next one on dec 6th at perris..on that vet track too lol.

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hubbardmx50
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11/26/2020 3:44pm
Nice riding man glad you had fun. I couldn’t make State Fair unfortunatley, hoping to be at Perris and will absolutely be at Glen Helen. What’s your bike and #?

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