2022 YZ450

Pink wrote:

Only if Suzuki redesigns the 450.

Pink wrote:

Only if Suzuki redesigns the 450.

racerx217 wrote:

Heard they were going back to kick start on putting a lectron carb on it.

racerx217 wrote:

Heard they were going back to kick start on putting a lectron carb on it.

spimx wrote:

And 2 stroke? I'll buy it

Johnny Ringo wrote:

I heard they’re ditching an engine all together for 22

racerx217 wrote:

Heard they were going back to kick start on putting a lectron carb on it.

slipdog wrote:

I put a Lectron on my son's KTM 65 on Thursday. Best thing I could have done for that bike!

slipdog wrote:

I put a Lectron on my son's KTM 65 on Thursday. Best thing I could have done for that bike!

FGR01 wrote:

My buddy has them on his son's 2 KTM65's. Run good.. plastic float bowls leak. Have to turn the gas off between every moto.

cloud41 wrote:

I really hope they scrap the backwards engine/air box/gas tank design - been waiting for years.

cloud41 wrote:

I really hope they scrap the backwards engine/air box/gas tank design - been waiting for years.

yz133rider wrote:

I was rewatching the full 09 and 10 seasons outdoors and it’s so obvious the 09 blew the 10 away. Josh grant was a front runner...

I was rewatching the full 09 and 10 seasons outdoors and it’s so obvious the 09 blew the 10 away.

Josh grant was a front runner on the 09 and the bike looked so planted and composed. On the 10 he was off pace and when he was pushing was making mistakes everywhere on it. Stewart raced a round or 2 in 10 and looked awful on it as well.

I can only imagine where they would be if they have continued to develop the 09 generation chassis and engine as that engine and chassis was really good on the 250s and 450.

Also rewatching those races has kind of reminded me how much heavier bikes have gotten since that generation.

250fs back then weighed about what 250 2 strokes made. They’ve gained like 15-20lbs since that generation with efi, e start, wiring, map switches all that.

cloud41 wrote:

I really hope they scrap the backwards engine/air box/gas tank design - been waiting for years.

yz133rider wrote:

I was rewatching the full 09 and 10 seasons outdoors and it’s so obvious the 09 blew the 10 away. Josh grant was a front runner...

I was rewatching the full 09 and 10 seasons outdoors and it’s so obvious the 09 blew the 10 away.

Josh grant was a front runner on the 09 and the bike looked so planted and composed. On the 10 he was off pace and when he was pushing was making mistakes everywhere on it. Stewart raced a round or 2 in 10 and looked awful on it as well.

I can only imagine where they would be if they have continued to develop the 09 generation chassis and engine as that engine and chassis was really good on the 250s and 450.

Also rewatching those races has kind of reminded me how much heavier bikes have gotten since that generation.

250fs back then weighed about what 250 2 strokes made. They’ve gained like 15-20lbs since that generation with efi, e start, wiring, map switches all that.

cloud41 wrote:

I really hope they scrap the backwards engine/air box/gas tank design - been waiting for years.

yz133rider wrote:

I was rewatching the full 09 and 10 seasons outdoors and it’s so obvious the 09 blew the 10 away. Josh grant was a front runner...

I was rewatching the full 09 and 10 seasons outdoors and it’s so obvious the 09 blew the 10 away.

Josh grant was a front runner on the 09 and the bike looked so planted and composed. On the 10 he was off pace and when he was pushing was making mistakes everywhere on it. Stewart raced a round or 2 in 10 and looked awful on it as well.

I can only imagine where they would be if they have continued to develop the 09 generation chassis and engine as that engine and chassis was really good on the 250s and 450.

Also rewatching those races has kind of reminded me how much heavier bikes have gotten since that generation.

250fs back then weighed about what 250 2 strokes made. They’ve gained like 15-20lbs since that generation with efi, e start, wiring, map switches all that.

twotwosix wrote:

I disagree with this whole post. The reverse engine is a strength for Yamaha now, it just took some time and heavy development work. That development...

I disagree with this whole post. The reverse engine is a strength for Yamaha now, it just took some time and heavy development work. That development panned out because of how off the 2010 450 was front the drop. It's part of the process. Manufacturers don't always hit home runs on redesigns (Think 2013 CRF450 or 2018 RMZ450). 250f's have not gained 20 pounds in the last 10 years.

slipdog wrote:

I'll keep an eye on that, thanks! The fact that my son can now start it after laying it down in 1-2 kicks was worth the...

I'll keep an eye on that, thanks!

The fact that my son can now start it after laying it down in 1-2 kicks was worth the price alone. He's had multiple races since starting this summer waiting for a lap or more for a flagger to help him kick it over with the stock carb. I't runs much smoother and stronger too as a bonus.

racerx217 wrote:

Heard they were going back to kick start on putting a lectron carb on it.

slipdog wrote:

I put a Lectron on my son's KTM 65 on Thursday. Best thing I could have done for that bike!

slipdog wrote:

I'll keep an eye on that, thanks! The fact that my son can now start it after laying it down in 1-2 kicks was worth the...

I'll keep an eye on that, thanks!

The fact that my son can now start it after laying it down in 1-2 kicks was worth the price alone. He's had multiple races since starting this summer waiting for a lap or more for a flagger to help him kick it over with the stock carb. I't runs much smoother and stronger too as a bonus.

FGR01 wrote:

That is a huge deal for a kid at that age! Man, good luck to you if your kid is going to be racing serious for...

That is a huge deal for a kid at that age! Man, good luck to you if your kid is going to be racing serious for any amount of time on these 65's. They are a double edge sword. You basically have to have the kid on this bike to be competitive in the class (it's 10 lbs lighter than the YZ65) but they have some serious durability issues and some stuff that just really makes you scratch your head. My buddy has 2 of them (been through 3 or 4 more previously) and yesterday we discovered play in the crank on both bikes, grabbing the magneto rotor and moving it up and down. The one bike just had new main bearing put in and the other only has like 45 hrs. Apparently, it is a common issue for the crank journals to wear and lose their press fit to the inner race of the main bearing. What a pain! Oh, and a new OEM crank is over $400 !

racerx217 wrote:

Heard they were going back to kick start on putting a lectron carb on it.

slipdog wrote:

I put a Lectron on my son's KTM 65 on Thursday. Best thing I could have done for that bike!

numbers wrote:

Did you try the STIC setup. Lotta guys up here say its best.

slipdog wrote:

I put a Lectron on my son's KTM 65 on Thursday. Best thing I could have done for that bike!

numbers wrote:

Did you try the STIC setup. Lotta guys up here say its best.

slipdog wrote:

I believe the STIC only is for the PWK carb and the stock 65 carb is an antiquated Mikuni TM