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JamesReed wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/10/02/452237/s1200_panelsreflec.jpg[/img] Let's just put like 10 of these in Death Valley. I'm not a rocket surgeon, but projects like that could tip the scales in favor...

Let's just put like 10 of these in Death Valley. I'm not a rocket surgeon, but projects like that could tip the scales in favor of electric pretty easily.


Not even remotely close. You'd need to cover damn near the whole Nevada desert to make a dent in what Nuke, Nat gas, and Coal generate.
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Cali ain't that bad, hot chicks in bikini all year round (:
mattyhamz2 wrote:
Plastic women with no personality, fake tits, fake lips...
LOL So.... like Texas.
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JamesReed wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/10/02/452237/s1200_panelsreflec.jpg[/img] Let's just put like 10 of these in Death Valley. I'm not a rocket surgeon, but projects like that could tip the scales in favor...

Let's just put like 10 of these in Death Valley. I'm not a rocket surgeon, but projects like that could tip the scales in favor of electric pretty easily.


dboivin wrote:
you should see the amount of birds that thing vaporizes when they fly thru the light stream. literally cooks them in .0003 miliseconds.
How does it effect aircraft?! 😶
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OrangeJuice158 10/3/2020 8:17am
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JamesReed wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/10/02/452237/s1200_panelsreflec.jpg[/img] Let's just put like 10 of these in Death Valley. I'm not a rocket surgeon, but projects like that could tip the scales in favor...

Let's just put like 10 of these in Death Valley. I'm not a rocket surgeon, but projects like that could tip the scales in favor of electric pretty easily.


dboivin wrote:
you should see the amount of birds that thing vaporizes when they fly thru the light stream. literally cooks them in .0003 miliseconds.
Yeti831 wrote:
How does it effect aircraft?! 😶
The mirrors focus the suns energy on that one central point in the middle, would only affect something flying close to that point.

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JamesReed wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/10/02/452237/s1200_panelsreflec.jpg[/img] Let's just put like 10 of these in Death Valley. I'm not a rocket surgeon, but projects like that could tip the scales in favor...

Let's just put like 10 of these in Death Valley. I'm not a rocket surgeon, but projects like that could tip the scales in favor of electric pretty easily.


Yes! Let's turn a National Park into a powerpalnt.

Laughing

There's 3 of these plants right at Stateline...Cali-Nevada on I-15. That's where the "Bird Poof" stories came from.

I always come to a Moto forum for my science and engineering data; so, I thought I'd share the few facts I know.
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JamesReed wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/10/02/452237/s1200_panelsreflec.jpg[/img] Let's just put like 10 of these in Death Valley. I'm not a rocket surgeon, but projects like that could tip the scales in favor...

Let's just put like 10 of these in Death Valley. I'm not a rocket surgeon, but projects like that could tip the scales in favor of electric pretty easily.


So how much power does this generate at night?
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JamesReed wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/10/02/452237/s1200_panelsreflec.jpg[/img] Let's just put like 10 of these in Death Valley. I'm not a rocket surgeon, but projects like that could tip the scales in favor...

Let's just put like 10 of these in Death Valley. I'm not a rocket surgeon, but projects like that could tip the scales in favor of electric pretty easily.


Orrrr we could just leave the desert alone and stop building more housing
freebroctickle 10/3/2020 10:23am
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People romanticize moving inland for "muh freedom," then freak out that they have to take their own trash to the dump, the only places to go after 8PM are bars, casinos, and Walmart (which is an hour drive), their junkie neighbors keep a constantly barking dog on a chain in the front yard, and their kid's elementary school is next to the strip club bc zoning is for Marxists.
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JamesReed wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/10/02/452237/s1200_panelsreflec.jpg[/img] Let's just put like 10 of these in Death Valley. I'm not a rocket surgeon, but projects like that could tip the scales in favor...

Let's just put like 10 of these in Death Valley. I'm not a rocket surgeon, but projects like that could tip the scales in favor of electric pretty easily.


TeamGreen wrote:
Yes! Let's turn a National Park into a powerpalnt. :laugh: There's 3 of these plants right at Stateline...Cali-Nevada on I-15. That's where the "Bird Poof" stories...
Yes! Let's turn a National Park into a powerpalnt.

Laughing

There's 3 of these plants right at Stateline...Cali-Nevada on I-15. That's where the "Bird Poof" stories came from.

I always come to a Moto forum for my science and engineering data; so, I thought I'd share the few facts I know.
Silly
I’m with Gavin. Lets keep shutting down and not permitting Nuclear facilities, shutting down fossil fuel burning power generation plants and lets depend on two sources that are out of your control wind and sun. Or maybe the electricity fairy will sprinkle everyone with a little.... better yet lets figure out how to get water to flow uphill un assisted so it can inturn flow downhill and create an endless supply
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freebroctickle 10/3/2020 10:44am
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JamesReed wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/10/02/452237/s1200_panelsreflec.jpg[/img] Let's just put like 10 of these in Death Valley. I'm not a rocket surgeon, but projects like that could tip the scales in favor...

Let's just put like 10 of these in Death Valley. I'm not a rocket surgeon, but projects like that could tip the scales in favor of electric pretty easily.


TeamGreen wrote:
Yes! Let's turn a National Park into a powerpalnt. :laugh: There's 3 of these plants right at Stateline...Cali-Nevada on I-15. That's where the "Bird Poof" stories...
Yes! Let's turn a National Park into a powerpalnt.

Laughing

There's 3 of these plants right at Stateline...Cali-Nevada on I-15. That's where the "Bird Poof" stories came from.

I always come to a Moto forum for my science and engineering data; so, I thought I'd share the few facts I know.
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brocster wrote:
I’m with Gavin. Lets keep shutting down and not permitting Nuclear facilities, shutting down fossil fuel burning power generation plants and lets depend on two sources...
I’m with Gavin. Lets keep shutting down and not permitting Nuclear facilities, shutting down fossil fuel burning power generation plants and lets depend on two sources that are out of your control wind and sun. Or maybe the electricity fairy will sprinkle everyone with a little.... better yet lets figure out how to get water to flow uphill un assisted so it can inturn flow downhill and create an endless supply
Even 20 years ago, the technology we have today would seem like a fairytale. Yes, fossil fuels are still very much our present. But technology is developing at a breakneck pace, and there's no reason to believe that we cant develop viable large-scale alternatives in the future.
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With this mass California exodus I keep reading about you would think there would be a lot of Jobs available there?
I saw on a YouTube clip today that said there are 66 thousand homeless people in Venice California is that true?
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JOE_SPROCKETS#1 10/3/2020 1:50pm
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With this mass California exodus I keep reading about you would think there would be a lot of Jobs available there? I saw on a YouTube...
With this mass California exodus I keep reading about you would think there would be a lot of Jobs available there?
I saw on a YouTube clip today that said there are 66 thousand homeless people in Venice California is that true?
I was watching rogan last week and they said it’s probably double that on account of how they count it.
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freebroctickle wrote:
People romanticize moving inland for "muh freedom," then freak out that they have to take their own trash to the dump, the only places to go...
People romanticize moving inland for "muh freedom," then freak out that they have to take their own trash to the dump, the only places to go after 8PM are bars, casinos, and Walmart (which is an hour drive), their junkie neighbors keep a constantly barking dog on a chain in the front yard, and their kid's elementary school is next to the strip club bc zoning is for Marxists.
Wow. Kidding I hope
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I try getting down to California to go riding and spear fishing every couple years. I’m originally from Carson. My family and friends are still down there.
I left in 98 at twenty and, haven’t regretted it.
I moved to Oregon then in 08, work dried up and I moved further north.
When I go back, I see my friends and family are struggling financially. Some are longshoremen, truck drivers, work for schools, union laborers, electricians etc. It seems the tradesmen do better then the rest. Unfortunately being in the trades myself, returning isn’t an option as the pay for a licensed commercial plumber, who’s also a foreman, the pay is more then 35% less. Considering the housing market is more expensive there and pay is less, returning isn’t in the cards for me regardless of how much I miss everything about it. The riding is great, the beaches are awesome, and the sun is almost always shining.
I commend the people who make it work there. It’s tough for many I’d assume. As previously mentioned, I make it a point to return for the things I’ve enjoyed while living there every so often. Staying there and struggling is why I’m still in the PNW. Maybe one day I’ll return after winning the lotto. For now, I’ll enjoy my vacations there.

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Chance1216 wrote:
I try getting down to California to go riding and spear fishing every couple years. I’m originally from Carson. My family and friends are still down...
I try getting down to California to go riding and spear fishing every couple years. I’m originally from Carson. My family and friends are still down there.
I left in 98 at twenty and, haven’t regretted it.
I moved to Oregon then in 08, work dried up and I moved further north.
When I go back, I see my friends and family are struggling financially. Some are longshoremen, truck drivers, work for schools, union laborers, electricians etc. It seems the tradesmen do better then the rest. Unfortunately being in the trades myself, returning isn’t an option as the pay for a licensed commercial plumber, who’s also a foreman, the pay is more then 35% less. Considering the housing market is more expensive there and pay is less, returning isn’t in the cards for me regardless of how much I miss everything about it. The riding is great, the beaches are awesome, and the sun is almost always shining.
I commend the people who make it work there. It’s tough for many I’d assume. As previously mentioned, I make it a point to return for the things I’ve enjoyed while living there every so often. Staying there and struggling is why I’m still in the PNW. Maybe one day I’ll return after winning the lotto. For now, I’ll enjoy my vacations there.

That picture is what I call a perfect day! Happy for ya!
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Chance1216 wrote:
I try getting down to California to go riding and spear fishing every couple years. I’m originally from Carson. My family and friends are still down...
I try getting down to California to go riding and spear fishing every couple years. I’m originally from Carson. My family and friends are still down there.
I left in 98 at twenty and, haven’t regretted it.
I moved to Oregon then in 08, work dried up and I moved further north.
When I go back, I see my friends and family are struggling financially. Some are longshoremen, truck drivers, work for schools, union laborers, electricians etc. It seems the tradesmen do better then the rest. Unfortunately being in the trades myself, returning isn’t an option as the pay for a licensed commercial plumber, who’s also a foreman, the pay is more then 35% less. Considering the housing market is more expensive there and pay is less, returning isn’t in the cards for me regardless of how much I miss everything about it. The riding is great, the beaches are awesome, and the sun is almost always shining.
I commend the people who make it work there. It’s tough for many I’d assume. As previously mentioned, I make it a point to return for the things I’ve enjoyed while living there every so often. Staying there and struggling is why I’m still in the PNW. Maybe one day I’ll return after winning the lotto. For now, I’ll enjoy my vacations there.

RalphS wrote:
That picture is what I call a perfect day! Happy for ya!
Trip to Hungry Valley from last October. We could’ve got a fifth wheel but, opted to use tents like when I was younger and rode there. Sentimental I guess.
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Alex the great 10/3/2020 4:59pm
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The jet engines run on natural gas. "The team made other adaptations to optimize the LM9000 for industrial applications. They switched the machine’s combustion system from...
The jet engines run on natural gas.

"The team made other adaptations to optimize the LM9000 for industrial applications. They switched the machine’s combustion system from jet fuel to natural gas. "

https://www.ge.com/news/reports/ge-oil-gas-just-turned-worlds-largest-j…
Natural gas is still a fossil fuel so can't have your Prius and eat it too. Go reference more links. Copy and paste. You'll find how bad natural gas is to drill & extract. But like most arguments or positions people take they close their eyes to things they don't want to see.
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freebroctickle wrote:
People romanticize moving inland for "muh freedom," then freak out that they have to take their own trash to the dump, the only places to go...
People romanticize moving inland for "muh freedom," then freak out that they have to take their own trash to the dump, the only places to go after 8PM are bars, casinos, and Walmart (which is an hour drive), their junkie neighbors keep a constantly barking dog on a chain in the front yard, and their kid's elementary school is next to the strip club bc zoning is for Marxists.
What the hell are you talking about lol
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RichieW13 wrote:
The jet engines run on natural gas. "The team made other adaptations to optimize the LM9000 for industrial applications. They switched the machine’s combustion system from...
The jet engines run on natural gas.

"The team made other adaptations to optimize the LM9000 for industrial applications. They switched the machine’s combustion system from jet fuel to natural gas. "

https://www.ge.com/news/reports/ge-oil-gas-just-turned-worlds-largest-j…
Alex the great wrote:
Natural gas is still a fossil fuel so can't have your Prius and eat it too. Go reference more links. Copy and paste. You'll find how...
Natural gas is still a fossil fuel so can't have your Prius and eat it too. Go reference more links. Copy and paste. You'll find how bad natural gas is to drill & extract. But like most arguments or positions people take they close their eyes to things they don't want to see.
Is natural gas worse than gasoline?
Alex the great 10/3/2020 7:03pm
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RichieW13 wrote:
The jet engines run on natural gas. "The team made other adaptations to optimize the LM9000 for industrial applications. They switched the machine’s combustion system from...
The jet engines run on natural gas.

"The team made other adaptations to optimize the LM9000 for industrial applications. They switched the machine’s combustion system from jet fuel to natural gas. "

https://www.ge.com/news/reports/ge-oil-gas-just-turned-worlds-largest-j…
Alex the great wrote:
Natural gas is still a fossil fuel so can't have your Prius and eat it too. Go reference more links. Copy and paste. You'll find how...
Natural gas is still a fossil fuel so can't have your Prius and eat it too. Go reference more links. Copy and paste. You'll find how bad natural gas is to drill & extract. But like most arguments or positions people take they close their eyes to things they don't want to see.
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Is natural gas worse than gasoline?
Up front no, it might even appear to be better. However, it depends on how much methane is leaked during production. I've read some studies that natural gas is equivalent to coal on the greenhouse front. There is not much infrastructure in place either and someone has to pay for that too. I don't want to pay for it either. Cars doesn't make sense. There is a reason those civics didn't last.

A better approach use vehicle less. The system needs to be thought through better. There is no need for so many cars to be on the road. Walk more when you can. Taking away dirtbikes is not a solution.

I would rather walk than drive an EV is back to my point. Do I have gasoline engines in vehicles? Yes, but those are already produced for my old ass and I don't need to have the environment hurt again for me to have a new vehicle.

Thanks.
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Technology Toyota uses for the Prius is fantastic imho. Love my Prius. If a significant number of all vehicles shut down when stopped or slowed, imagine the improvement.
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Ever tried to take a load of cattle to sale with a Prius?
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Skip Intro wrote:
Technology Toyota uses for the Prius is fantastic imho. Love my Prius. If a significant number of all vehicles shut down when stopped or slowed, imagine...
Technology Toyota uses for the Prius is fantastic imho. Love my Prius. If a significant number of all vehicles shut down when stopped or slowed, imagine the improvement.

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Southern California is awesome! Name another place where you can experience beaches, deserts and mountain forests all within an hour drive? I especially love San Diego. Living next to the border is the best thing ever. You can be in another country and experience a whole new dynamic. I can’t tell you guys how much money I’ve saved by getting my vehicles repaired in Mexico. Overall, wouldn’t trade Cali for any other place.
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Chance1216 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/10/03/452480/s1200_7F094365_E221_4FAC_B0EF_87EB547A7DFC.jpg[/img]

The smaller your dick ahem self-confidence, the larger is your car/truck.
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Chance1216 wrote:
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RalphS wrote:
The smaller your dick ahem self-confidence, the larger is your car/truck.
Good thing my truck isn’t lifted.
You don’t wear crocs by chance do you? 😉
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TeamGreen wrote:
Yes! Let's turn a National Park into a powerpalnt. :laugh: There's 3 of these plants right at Stateline...Cali-Nevada on I-15. That's where the "Bird Poof" stories...
Yes! Let's turn a National Park into a powerpalnt.

Laughing

There's 3 of these plants right at Stateline...Cali-Nevada on I-15. That's where the "Bird Poof" stories came from.

I always come to a Moto forum for my science and engineering data; so, I thought I'd share the few facts I know.
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brocster wrote:
I’m with Gavin. Lets keep shutting down and not permitting Nuclear facilities, shutting down fossil fuel burning power generation plants and lets depend on two sources...
I’m with Gavin. Lets keep shutting down and not permitting Nuclear facilities, shutting down fossil fuel burning power generation plants and lets depend on two sources that are out of your control wind and sun. Or maybe the electricity fairy will sprinkle everyone with a little.... better yet lets figure out how to get water to flow uphill un assisted so it can inturn flow downhill and create an endless supply
freebroctickle wrote:
Even 20 years ago, the technology we have today would seem like a fairytale. Yes, fossil fuels are still very much our present. But technology is...
Even 20 years ago, the technology we have today would seem like a fairytale. Yes, fossil fuels are still very much our present. But technology is developing at a breakneck pace, and there's no reason to believe that we cant develop viable large-scale alternatives in the future.
We’ve been at a stale mate for quite some time and as we speak there is nothing on the horizon that has been proven to be economical and viable, so to say that in 15:years that there will be something to save the say is a bit of a stretch all the while they’ll be rolling blackouts as more of these “green” vehicles will need to be charged at random hours no matter If the power company say says between x and y when they don’t dictate the work hours of people needing to charge between y and z.
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We’ve been at a stale mate for quite some time and as we speak there is nothing on the horizon that has been proven to be...
We’ve been at a stale mate for quite some time and as we speak there is nothing on the horizon that has been proven to be economical and viable, so to say that in 15:years that there will be something to save the say is a bit of a stretch all the while they’ll be rolling blackouts as more of these “green” vehicles will need to be charged at random hours no matter If the power company say says between x and y when they don’t dictate the work hours of people needing to charge between y and z.
In the last 10 years California has increased solar energy from about 0.5% of its electricity generation to about 20% of its electricity generation. I wouldn't call that a "stale mate".
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What I meant was, we have’t gained anything by going solar all were doing at the moment is replacing it at best. We have rolling power outages still... all the while we are calling mandates to shut plants down and buy electric but on the flip side these will require more demand on a system that currently can’t keep up. The little meme above screams volumes and the top car should say gasoline on it as well for folks that can’t relate
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Brent 10/4/2020 8:27am
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...this thread was marginal non-moto in the first place, and now it has devolved into a culture war like everything else.

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