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blockhead17 2/9/2020 2:53am
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Was kinda hoping Marty parked him in the main..
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BobbyLight 2/9/2020 3:04am
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Dude is a top rider on a factory team and won a race this year and is still in it points wise. Let em race. Just because you feel like tomac is faster rider barcia should just let him go? Please. Its not catanzaro out there.
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gregyou 2/9/2020 3:22am
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Dude is a top rider on a factory team and won a race this year and is still in it points wise. Let em race. Just...
Dude is a top rider on a factory team and won a race this year and is still in it points wise. Let em race. Just because you feel like tomac is faster rider barcia should just let him go? Please. Its not catanzaro out there.
When he has issues with majority of the field, you don’t think it might be him? how many people have complained about his riding?
How come every one else can handle being passed except for him?
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zdhbike 2/9/2020 3:23am
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Has Barcia ever roughed up Tomac? Or vice-versa?
From my (poor) memory it seems like Tomac may be the only top rider who is friendly with/tolerates Barcia. In their 250 days on Honda on opposite coasts they often complimented each other even after Barcia beat Tomac in Vegas. Then Tomac landed on Barcias head in Geneva, and again they were very friendly about it.


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downard254 2/9/2020 3:46am
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What I’ve learned from this thread so far. If a rider who is a little faster comes up behind you, you should pull off the track and wave him by. Don’t ever try and race said faster rider because said faster rider might have some fans and by doing so, you might create a race that is enjoyable to watch.
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gregyou 2/9/2020 3:50am
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downard254 wrote:
What I’ve learned from this thread so far. If a rider who is a little faster comes up behind you, you should pull off the track...
What I’ve learned from this thread so far. If a rider who is a little faster comes up behind you, you should pull off the track and wave him by. Don’t ever try and race said faster rider because said faster rider might have some fans and by doing so, you might create a race that is enjoyable to watch.
Simple question for you, most of the field has had issues with Barcia and have complained about him. Do you think that they’re all out of line being pissed?
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Jasper125 2/9/2020 4:12am
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Well atleast Barcia and also Mosiman are fighting for a position some guys are not even trying to guard the inside on a corner letting guys by. Barcia and Mosiman are not really helping themselves with it sometimes because they take it a little to far and kill their own momentum but i'd rather have that than just not putting up a fight. I believe it was 2016 where Webb and Craig where going back and forth alot thats awesome racing to me...
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kkawboy14 2/9/2020 5:55am
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Whatever Barcia was doing worked against Roczen
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deluxeman 2/9/2020 6:17am
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Is Tomac some how entitled to just be able to pass when he comes up behind you. What does he just rev the engine and you are just supposed to do a Savagty move for him. Bam rode him like he rides everyone, it wasn’t dirty it was a race for position. If Tomac was so damn fast why is he back there with Barcia anyway?
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Lineman25 2/9/2020 6:20am
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Is Tomac some how entitled to just be able to pass when he comes up behind you. What does he just rev the engine and you...
Is Tomac some how entitled to just be able to pass when he comes up behind you. What does he just rev the engine and you are just supposed to do a Savagty move for him. Bam rode him like he rides everyone, it wasn’t dirty it was a race for position. If Tomac was so damn fast why is he back there with Barcia anyway?
Maybe because he ran Barcia down from second to last around first turn.
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dirtworldmx 2/9/2020 6:23am
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Barcia rides his bike like the typical New Yorker drives his car. A total sociopath.
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Dumb Dumb is back! What an idiot!
This is the correct answer...

There is a reason Bam Bam has zero big bike titles... He is more worried about trading paint and losing time, than crushing the field....
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deluxeman wrote:
Is Tomac some how entitled to just be able to pass when he comes up behind you. What does he just rev the engine and you...
Is Tomac some how entitled to just be able to pass when he comes up behind you. What does he just rev the engine and you are just supposed to do a Savagty move for him. Bam rode him like he rides everyone, it wasn’t dirty it was a race for position. If Tomac was so damn fast why is he back there with Barcia anyway?
But... Multiple paint trading while mid pack??? That's the idiot part.... Bam is sad he can't win, goes into cave man mode
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Racer111 2/9/2020 6:28am
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Yeah, but Barcia got caught and passed. So what? Barcia thinks he’s all the sudden going to be able to go faster than the guy that...
Yeah, but Barcia got caught and passed. So what? Barcia thinks he’s all the sudden going to be able to go faster than the guy that just caught him and passed him? Yeah let’s run it in and try these stupid ass block passes on the guy that just passed me.



I Can’t stand the guy. I don’t like whiners. He’s always pulled dick moves, but when someone does it to him, let’s cry about it.
171motocross wrote:
Dis you check the lap times bro? Last lap he was still pushing harder then Anyone on the track. He had the fastest last lap. And...
Dis you check the lap times bro? Last lap he was still pushing harder then Anyone on the track. He had the fastest last lap. And the 3rd overall fastest lap. It’s not like Tomac gapped his ass. Hell without Tomac getting that outside in the sand section and barcia going inside, I think it would have been a different race. But we can play that all night
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If Barcia was quicker hold did tomac catch him and pass him? Doesn’t make any sense
You’re damn post doesn’t make sense. Can you say it in English please?
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ATKpilot99 2/9/2020 6:33am
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171motocross wrote:
Dis you check the lap times bro? Last lap he was still pushing harder then Anyone on the track. He had the fastest last lap. And...
Dis you check the lap times bro? Last lap he was still pushing harder then Anyone on the track. He had the fastest last lap. And the 3rd overall fastest lap. It’s not like Tomac gapped his ass. Hell without Tomac getting that outside in the sand section and barcia going inside, I think it would have been a different race. But we can play that all night
gregyou wrote:
If Barcia was quicker hold did tomac catch him and pass him? Doesn’t make any sense
Racer111 wrote:
You’re damn post doesn’t make sense. Can you say it in English please?
Replace hold with how.
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Timo_2824 2/9/2020 6:37am
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"People don't race hard enough, they just roll over.."
Guy actually races hard.. "why doesn't he just pull over and give up!?"

Y'all are a bunch of whiners, Barcia did exactly what he is paid to do are ran a really good pace to get that 5th. I like hard racing and saw nothing wrong with his riding, it was pretty awesome and I actually thought this is how hard he should always ride.
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nealb129 2/9/2020 6:42am
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instead of slamming a guy for fighting for position, why don't you look at the fastest man in the ultraverse and ask 1. if he is so much faster than barcia then why didn't he gap him? 2. he knew passing barcia would result in this, so maybe he should have picked a better spot to pass.

But b/c this battle involved the #3 then the other guy is and always will be the bad/dumb/ignorant etc rider.
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Racer111 2/9/2020 6:49am
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Timo_2824 wrote:
"People don't race hard enough, they just roll over.." Guy actually races hard.. "why doesn't he just pull over and give up!?" Y'all are a bunch...
"People don't race hard enough, they just roll over.."
Guy actually races hard.. "why doesn't he just pull over and give up!?"

Y'all are a bunch of whiners, Barcia did exactly what he is paid to do are ran a really good pace to get that 5th. I like hard racing and saw nothing wrong with his riding, it was pretty awesome and I actually thought this is how hard he should always ride.
What Dam Dam did wasn’t racing, it was wasting Eli’s time. It was more or less Barcia having a tantrum for a few corners because Eli passed him. It’s not like he was going to pass Eli back and check out.

Barcia is doing what Barcia has done for 8 years. Start off good, fade in the middle of the season and then fade out of everyone’s memory until Anaheim 1 2021 where there will be a thread titled “BARCIA”! Inside the thread will be someone saying how he’s going to be “legit” this year as he and the bike are just awesome!
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171motocross 2/9/2020 6:51am
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the racing between him and Tomac was the highlight of the race. Whether you liked it or not. They had the leaders in a little preview window while Barcia, Tomac and Roczen were in another bigger window. Webb’s pass was cool and everything but then he just checked out. If ya’ll wanna watch single file shit then you’re in the wrong sport.
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Timo_2824 2/9/2020 7:00am
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What Dam Dam did wasn’t racing, it was wasting Eli’s time. It was more or less Barcia having a tantrum for a few corners because Eli...
What Dam Dam did wasn’t racing, it was wasting Eli’s time. It was more or less Barcia having a tantrum for a few corners because Eli passed him. It’s not like he was going to pass Eli back and check out.

Barcia is doing what Barcia has done for 8 years. Start off good, fade in the middle of the season and then fade out of everyone’s memory until Anaheim 1 2021 where there will be a thread titled “BARCIA”! Inside the thread will be someone saying how he’s going to be “legit” this year as he and the bike are just awesome!
Name calling makes you sound like you're having a tantrum, Barcia is paid to race and get the best finish he can every race, which he did. The top 6 all had similar lap times, Tomac passed everyone he was faster than. Kenny's foot is bothering him more than he let on, and Webb, AC, and Bagget were just faster than everyone else.
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NewOldSchool 2/9/2020 7:07am
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We talk about race craft all the time, Barcias race craft was not very good last night. He was passed and ran it in on Tomac twice causing both to lose 4 seconds to third place Baggett. Like everyone said latch on to Tomac and make a run for the podium. There’s nothing wrong with riding hard and holding position but when Bravia and Tomac are both fast why not accept the pass and try to move up instead of holding up both and losing time.
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Zesiger 112 2/9/2020 7:09am
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yz133rider wrote:
Barcia needs to be on permanent double secret probation. His riding is bull shit. I love how he races hard, but he needs to race forward...
Barcia needs to be on permanent double secret probation. His riding is bull shit. I love how he races hard, but he needs to race forward not backwards. Tomac passed him clean moving forward and barcia pulls his usual bs and holds them both up massively. They both could have had a run at the lead but instead lost so much time because barcia loses his mind whenever he gets passed.
How is trying to re gain the position lost not racing forward??????
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downard254 2/9/2020 7:20am
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downard254 wrote:
What I’ve learned from this thread so far. If a rider who is a little faster comes up behind you, you should pull off the track...
What I’ve learned from this thread so far. If a rider who is a little faster comes up behind you, you should pull off the track and wave him by. Don’t ever try and race said faster rider because said faster rider might have some fans and by doing so, you might create a race that is enjoyable to watch.
gregyou wrote:
Simple question for you, most of the field has had issues with Barcia and have complained about him. Do you think that they’re all out of...
Simple question for you, most of the field has had issues with Barcia and have complained about him. Do you think that they’re all out of line being pissed?
Maybe not as simple as you think. First of all, who are "most". Do you know the list of riders that have issues with Barcia. Next, are they pissed because they think he races dirty, or are they just pissed because he actually races them and doesn't roll over and let them by. My how boring racing would be if everyone just let the faster rider by. I watch the sport because I actually want to see some racing. And Barcia fighting Tomac for position was some good racing. I'd like to see more of it.
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Bramlett321 2/9/2020 7:21am
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Harry_Gray wrote:
Dunno why Tomac was put out by Barcia. Barcia is still in this (points wise); he needs to earn positions and move forward too.
Yep suck it up Tomac it’s racing !!! He always gets pissed when someone races him hard
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Lastander 2/9/2020 7:27am
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Maybe Justin could teach Kenny how to make a pass
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yz133rider 2/9/2020 7:35am
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yz133rider wrote:
Barcia needs to be on permanent double secret probation. His riding is bull shit. I love how he races hard, but he needs to race forward...
Barcia needs to be on permanent double secret probation. His riding is bull shit. I love how he races hard, but he needs to race forward not backwards. Tomac passed him clean moving forward and barcia pulls his usual bs and holds them both up massively. They both could have had a run at the lead but instead lost so much time because barcia loses his mind whenever he gets passed.
Zesiger 112 wrote:
How is trying to re gain the position lost not racing forward??????
Because in the process they both lost touch with the 3 riders ahead. Prior to barica going full retard they were catching the top 3. Tomac and barcia both could have had a shot at the win. And instead barcia went full retard and they lost 6+ seconds and now the best either of them could do is 4th and 5th.
Racing forward is how roczen or tomac make passes. Racing backwards is how barcia makes passes. Some move forward while doing so. Some go backwards while doing so. Make sense?
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TbonesPop 2/9/2020 7:44am
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Good grief, some of you people......I love Tomac, Kenny, and Barcia. They are all good dudes and the reason we love the sport. I also love good racing, especially aggressive (but not sutpid/dangerous) racing. I get that all of the riders are there to get as many points as possible. The issue I take with what was done was the way things were done - the race craft of it all.

"Battling" is one thing - it usually involves going faster and moving forward in the pack and not slowing the pace of both riders. Playing "Cat and mouse" losing time over a fucking 5th position is just plain fucking stupid. Checking up, brake checking, etc over a 5th place spot during the middle of the race slows the pace of both riders and doesn't benefit anyone (I get it when there's two laps left, but not half the damn race). In fact, it lets the riders behind catch up and puts more at risk of losing race positions and points on the night.

Want to play cat an mouse for the win late in the race, or even for holding position late in the race, fine. Have at it. I'll watch and enjoy it.

Barcia is fast this year. He's riding great. He looks great on the bike. Race forward son, don't play defense. Eli and Barcia could have both caught Baggett last night. Then put a pass on Eli and block him for a podium spot.

Playing cat and mouse with half a race to go benefits no one except the racers behind you. Stupid
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deluxeman wrote:
Is Tomac some how entitled to just be able to pass when he comes up behind you. What does he just rev the engine and you...
Is Tomac some how entitled to just be able to pass when he comes up behind you. What does he just rev the engine and you are just supposed to do a Savagty move for him. Bam rode him like he rides everyone, it wasn’t dirty it was a race for position. If Tomac was so damn fast why is he back there with Barcia anyway?
gt80rider wrote:
But... Multiple paint trading while mid pack??? That's the idiot part.... Bam is sad he can't win, goes into cave man mode
5th place is mid pack?
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TbonesPop 2/9/2020 7:49am
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yz133rider wrote:
Barcia needs to be on permanent double secret probation. His riding is bull shit. I love how he races hard, but he needs to race forward...
Barcia needs to be on permanent double secret probation. His riding is bull shit. I love how he races hard, but he needs to race forward not backwards. Tomac passed him clean moving forward and barcia pulls his usual bs and holds them both up massively. They both could have had a run at the lead but instead lost so much time because barcia loses his mind whenever he gets passed.
Zesiger 112 wrote:
How is trying to re gain the position lost not racing forward??????
Look at the lap times when two riders play cat and mouse. They are going backwards in the pack when they do that. The problem wasn't battling, the problem was checking up, brake checking, and stuffing corners to try and hold a position in the middle of the damn race (would have been perfectly fine with a few laps to go), which lets more riders catch you then going faster to catch the other riders in front of you? Understand? Its pretty simple. Look at the lap times. "Battle" to regain position by going faster. "Cat and mouse" slows both riders down and lets other riders catch up = going slower. The object of racing is to go faster and pass people in front of you, not go slower so others can catch you.
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MX/SX Fan 2/9/2020 7:59am
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According to Racer X, it was Barcia who approached Tomac and was upset, not Tomac. That changes this whole thread.
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