Let's see/review those 2019 kx450s

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Zeke27G wrote:
Working on ordering a set of ROCS pro clamps and trying to decide on which bar mounts to order. Just confirming that you prefer the Flex...
Working on ordering a set of ROCS pro clamps and trying to decide on which bar mounts to order. Just confirming that you prefer the Flex Fix mounts over the PHDS mounts and why? It seems the PHDS mounts would offer more dampening?
DB97 wrote:
Yeah I like them better. They're slightly lower, lighter, and when it's bolted on the top clamp is simple not a bunch of pieces.
Zeke27G wrote:
Thanks for the reply. Looking at the photo, it seems your bars are nearly resting on the fork caps. Can you get to the comp adjusters...
Thanks for the reply. Looking at the photo, it seems your bars are nearly resting on the fork caps. Can you get to the comp adjusters at all?
Yeah I'm in the back hole forward bar mounts. I can go straight down with a screw driver still.
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KAWI642 wrote:
so what would be a good price on a used 2019 ? i have seen them everywhere from $4800 to $7000 I am looking at one...
so what would be a good price on a used 2019 ? i have seen them everywhere from $4800 to $7000 I am looking at one locally here for $6500 asking price with 28 hours on it.

Has PC Pipe and other cosmetic goodies and looks really nice. I think $5500 would be the price range I was looking at though.

Also, how has the long term reliability been on these bikes and what should i look for? this one has a PC Exhaust on it did they fix those issues they were having ? appreciate the feedback in advance.
Sub-frame muffler mount breaks at the weld, chain rollers go quickly, be careful when torquing the motor mounts. After that....all is good.
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Steering stem bearings after 20 hours. No pressure washing. (Yes I greased them before I rode it).


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So I managed to shear off one of the rear skid plate bolts on my p3 skid plate. Went to go remove the other one and it wouldnt budge, alan head stripped, ended up drilling off the head of the bolt and now I cant get get the bolts out. Tried all 3 brands of bolt removers I have, left hand drill bits etc. and these things must be fused into the frame because they wont budge. Any tips on a good drill set to drill out the bolts? Cant seem to find a drill bit tough enough to go through them.

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bvm111 1/4/2020 8:57am
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Anyone out there know when Kawi starts to reduce the price of the current model years? I always thought first incentives hit after the first of the year but no one is budging... shit the dealer out in northern AZ still is asking MSRP for the 19, he just laughed at me about budging on price for the 20!
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bvm111 wrote:
Anyone out there know when Kawi starts to reduce the price of the current model years? I always thought first incentives hit after the first of...
Anyone out there know when Kawi starts to reduce the price of the current model years? I always thought first incentives hit after the first of the year but no one is budging... shit the dealer out in northern AZ still is asking MSRP for the 19, he just laughed at me about budging on price for the 20!
I think April is usually the best month for Kawi incentives. About $1500 off 450s. The incentives start Feb or March around $500 off I believe though, and increase from there

They're offering $1000 off 2020 KX250 right now though
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I don’t know about this year. The bikes are in pretty high demand so it might take awhile for the incentives.
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bh wrote:
Steering stem bearings after 20 hours. No pressure washing. (Yes I greased them before I rode it). [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/01/03/395948/s1200_2FEF8523_D37C_49DD_9BD8_3100AA28ECBD.jpg[/img]

Steering stem bearings after 20 hours. No pressure washing. (Yes I greased them before I rode it).


Had that same problem with mine and I also greased it up good .
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Anybody ever use asv unbreakable levers, saw a set for 90 bucks
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Zeke, those PHDS mounts are still pretty damn light and they work amazingly well. I’d never choose solid over them myself.
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hellion wrote:
Zeke, those PHDS mounts are still pretty damn light and they work amazingly well. I’d never choose solid over them myself.
The flex fix is a mix has rubber dampening still. Two different spots.
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lawson34 1/4/2020 6:27pm
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I checked n those mounts out since u guys have been talking about them, I'm stuck with ride engineering mounts
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Anyone have any before and after photos they can share of how the subframe muffler hanger was braced? Thank you in advance!
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bvm111 wrote:
Anyone out there know when Kawi starts to reduce the price of the current model years? I always thought first incentives hit after the first of...
Anyone out there know when Kawi starts to reduce the price of the current model years? I always thought first incentives hit after the first of the year but no one is budging... shit the dealer out in northern AZ still is asking MSRP for the 19, he just laughed at me about budging on price for the 20!
Yep its right around April. I got mine in April and the discount was either $2000 or $2500 off.
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bvm111 wrote:
Anyone out there know when Kawi starts to reduce the price of the current model years? I always thought first incentives hit after the first of...
Anyone out there know when Kawi starts to reduce the price of the current model years? I always thought first incentives hit after the first of the year but no one is budging... shit the dealer out in northern AZ still is asking MSRP for the 19, he just laughed at me about budging on price for the 20!
seth419 wrote:
Yep its right around April. I got mine in April and the discount was either $2000 or $2500 off.
They’re pretty cheap in WI.
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Zeke27G wrote:
Anyone have any before and after photos they can share of how the subframe muffler hanger was braced? Thank you in advance!
Markopolo400 wrote:
https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Bike-Builds,46/19-KX450-build,1346816?ex…


Thanks Marko. I read that it breaks at the point where the tab offsets, so would I be making a piece to double up the material and would the piece be welded to the face of the tab or to the back? In my sketch, the dashed lines represent the additional tab to be welded on.
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Procircuit TI6.

Bike started to backfire, I figured it was the valve clearance. (56 hours). Let the bike cool down and the went to check the exhaust and found it loose at the header where it meets the muffler and the motor. Checked the bolts, they were torqued as recommended. Pulled the header off to find this.


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D_Mash336 wrote:
Procircuit TI6. Bike started to backfire, I figured it was the valve clearance. (56 hours). Let the bike cool down and the went to check the...
Procircuit TI6.

Bike started to backfire, I figured it was the valve clearance. (56 hours). Let the bike cool down and the went to check the exhaust and found it loose at the header where it meets the muffler and the motor. Checked the bolts, they were torqued as recommended. Pulled the header off to find this.


Mine did the same thing but broke completely off and landed on the ground while I was riding. They gave me a new one for free.
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D_Mash336 wrote:
Procircuit TI6. Bike started to backfire, I figured it was the valve clearance. (56 hours). Let the bike cool down and the went to check the...
Procircuit TI6.

Bike started to backfire, I figured it was the valve clearance. (56 hours). Let the bike cool down and the went to check the exhaust and found it loose at the header where it meets the muffler and the motor. Checked the bolts, they were torqued as recommended. Pulled the header off to find this.


Greenguy wrote:
Mine did the same thing but broke completely off and landed on the ground while I was riding. They gave me a new one for free.
Yeah I had mine blow off my 2016 and the replaced for free.
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D_Mash336 wrote:
Procircuit TI6. Bike started to backfire, I figured it was the valve clearance. (56 hours). Let the bike cool down and the went to check the...
Procircuit TI6.

Bike started to backfire, I figured it was the valve clearance. (56 hours). Let the bike cool down and the went to check the exhaust and found it loose at the header where it meets the muffler and the motor. Checked the bolts, they were torqued as recommended. Pulled the header off to find this.


Greenguy wrote:
Mine did the same thing but broke completely off and landed on the ground while I was riding. They gave me a new one for free.
Anyone tried Yoshi ? better quality then PC is my experience
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D_Mash336 wrote:
Procircuit TI6. Bike started to backfire, I figured it was the valve clearance. (56 hours). Let the bike cool down and the went to check the...
Procircuit TI6.

Bike started to backfire, I figured it was the valve clearance. (56 hours). Let the bike cool down and the went to check the exhaust and found it loose at the header where it meets the muffler and the motor. Checked the bolts, they were torqued as recommended. Pulled the header off to find this.


Greenguy wrote:
Mine did the same thing but broke completely off and landed on the ground while I was riding. They gave me a new one for free.
KAWI642 wrote:
Anyone tried Yoshi ? better quality then PC is my experience
Yep I have the Yosh. Never rode it with the stocker so can’t compare, but fit and finish was perfect. I helped a buddy put a TI-6 on a bike and it fit like shit.

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Nystrom7 1/6/2020 11:03am
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Yosh seems like good exhaust but they are so big.
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I thought Akrapovic looked pretty sweet.
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DB97 wrote:
I thought Akrapovic looked pretty sweet. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/01/06/396480/s1200_akrapovic_evolution_line_titanium_kawasaki_kx450_f2019_1800x1800.jpg[/img]
I thought Akrapovic looked pretty sweet.
Also big. Fmf seems to be the smallest if im correct? HGS looks pretty good.

I still run the stock on mine but would like to have a slip on but they are expensive.

https://www.google.com/search?q=bos+kawasaki&safe=off&client=ms-android…
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DB97 wrote:
I thought Akrapovic looked pretty sweet. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/01/06/396480/s1200_akrapovic_evolution_line_titanium_kawasaki_kx450_f2019_1800x1800.jpg[/img]
I thought Akrapovic looked pretty sweet.
I’ve seem the akrapovic in person and was quite impressed with the looks. I’ve also heard it performs quite well. Negative? They are $$$. Their road pipes are works of art!
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I have a PC full stainless system on mine. Fit perfectly and has over 50 hours with no problems. No problem with hangers or brackets as well.
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999 wrote:
I run them and didn't have any problems with install. Maybe your radiators were slightly bent already?
Nope, my bike is basically brand new, I was able to get 2hrs on it before winter covered all the lands around here, and didn't have any tip overs or crashes. I also emailed works connection to see if they had any input or made a bad batch, but haven't gotten a reply. Customer service with manufactures in the moto industry is non-existent, this is the 3rd company I haven't gotten a reply from with in the last month. Surprisingly, Pro Circuit did reply to some questions and has been very helpful, shout out to them. Being a product designer and developer it is very frustrating dealing with stuff like this. Maybe I'm too picky, but I won't run these and am selling them. I'll risk a bent radiator or get them welded up thanks to the suggestion from DB.

The first problem is, the lower part of the radiator shroud doesn't reach the mounting hole with out completely forcing and bending it into place.

The reason, there is almost no room stock between the shroud and radiator, so you add in the brace, and it pushes the shroud way out where it needs to mount, and on the inside of the shroud where the plastic runs vertically along the radiator, that is now pushed out from the thickness of the brace.


I've tried mounting this in various mm increments to find the best fit, if it's too far forward, it pushes that lower rad. mount out further, but makes for easier fit at this location, if it's too far back, it makes it easier to mount at the lower rad. mount, but then the shroud has to bend around the brace and be forced to bolt up even with the spacer.
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Nope, my bike is basically brand new, I was able to get 2hrs on it before winter covered all the lands around here, and didn't have...
Nope, my bike is basically brand new, I was able to get 2hrs on it before winter covered all the lands around here, and didn't have any tip overs or crashes. I also emailed works connection to see if they had any input or made a bad batch, but haven't gotten a reply. Customer service with manufactures in the moto industry is non-existent, this is the 3rd company I haven't gotten a reply from with in the last month. Surprisingly, Pro Circuit did reply to some questions and has been very helpful, shout out to them. Being a product designer and developer it is very frustrating dealing with stuff like this. Maybe I'm too picky, but I won't run these and am selling them. I'll risk a bent radiator or get them welded up thanks to the suggestion from DB.

The first problem is, the lower part of the radiator shroud doesn't reach the mounting hole with out completely forcing and bending it into place.

The reason, there is almost no room stock between the shroud and radiator, so you add in the brace, and it pushes the shroud way out where it needs to mount, and on the inside of the shroud where the plastic runs vertically along the radiator, that is now pushed out from the thickness of the brace.


I've tried mounting this in various mm increments to find the best fit, if it's too far forward, it pushes that lower rad. mount out further, but makes for easier fit at this location, if it's too far back, it makes it easier to mount at the lower rad. mount, but then the shroud has to bend around the brace and be forced to bolt up even with the spacer.
I put mine on when the bike was brand new... it was a process and eventually I got them decent, but I still have to use a little pressure to put the bolts in. Plus I ended up losing a spacer so now I dangle 3 washers on the back side of the shroud while pushing on it and putting the bolt in lol... Long story short, if I could do it again I'd have just sent them to ICW to start with.
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pCp 252 1/7/2020 9:11pm
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The WC guards for the 17-20 KX250F use similar mounts and they were also a pain to fit. They're an inconvenience to quickly take off the shrouds for any maintenance or cleaning.
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